"On February 17, 2006, the village of Guinsaugon on Leyte Island in
the Philippines disappeared. After several days of unusually heavy
rain, a massive landslide swallowed more than 350 houses and an
elementary school, burying more than 1,100 people. Residents of the
village, situated at the foot of a mountain, had no warning."

A quote from EarthObservatory: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Stu...dslideWarning/

The article continues:

"The map revealed no surprises-the researchers already had a general
idea which regions of the world were susceptible to landslides. "The
most important factors are the slope and soil type. Steep slopes and
coarse soil types are more susceptible to landslides," Hong said.
"And, in terms of land cover, bare soil contributes more to
landslides." The landslide susceptibility map provides a background
against which the scientists could predict the effect of rainfall."

Most of that region of the Pacific has been the subject of illegal
logging. So now you know that you have killed more than a few monkeys
if you subsidised the crime. Unfortunately even countries with
stringent laws about environmental matters fall far below the mark.

And you will have difficulty tracking what timber is used in your
house or place of work.
Sucks, don't it?

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:05:59 -0700, Weatherlawyer
wrote:



"On February 17, 2006, the village of Guinsaugon on Leyte Island in
the Philippines disappeared. After several days of unusually heavy
rain, a massive landslide swallowed more than 350 houses and an
elementary school, burying more than 1,100 people. Residents of the
village, situated at the foot of a mountain, had no warning."

A quote from EarthObservatory: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Stu...dslideWarning/

The article continues:

"The map revealed no surprises-the researchers already had a general
idea which regions of the world were susceptible to landslides. "The
most important factors are the slope and soil type. Steep slopes and
coarse soil types are more susceptible to landslides," Hong said.
"And, in terms of land cover, bare soil contributes more to
landslides." The landslide susceptibility map provides a background
against which the scientists could predict the effect of rainfall."

Most of that region of the Pacific has been the subject of illegal
logging. So now you know that you have killed more than a few monkeys
if you subsidised the crime. Unfortunately even countries with
stringent laws about environmental matters fall far below the mark.

And you will have difficulty tracking what timber is used in your
house or place of work.
Sucks, don't it?


Do they build houses from tropical hardwoods in your part of the
world? We don't here.

"Charles" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:05:59 -0700, Weatherlawyer
wrote:



"On February 17, 2006, the village of Guinsaugon on Leyte Island in
the Philippines disappeared. After several days of unusually heavy
rain, a massive landslide swallowed more than 350 houses and an
elementary school, burying more than 1,100 people. Residents of the
village, situated at the foot of a mountain, had no warning."

A quote from EarthObservatory:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Stu...dslideWarning/

The article continues:

"The map revealed no surprises-the researchers already had a general
idea which regions of the world were susceptible to landslides. "The
most important factors are the slope and soil type. Steep slopes and
coarse soil types are more susceptible to landslides," Hong said.
"And, in terms of land cover, bare soil contributes more to
landslides." The landslide susceptibility map provides a background
against which the scientists could predict the effect of rainfall."

Most of that region of the Pacific has been the subject of illegal
logging. So now you know that you have killed more than a few monkeys
if you subsidised the crime. Unfortunately even countries with
stringent laws about environmental matters fall far below the mark.

And you will have difficulty tracking what timber is used in your
house or place of work.
Sucks, don't it?


Do they build houses from tropical hardwoods in your part of the
world? We don't here.

tropical hardwoods
Highly prized for their beauty and sought after for the very finest
furniture, cabinetry, exquisite inlay work, architectural accents, musical
instruments, and other uniquely beautiful furnishings. Also for hardwood
flooring and decking from a variety of exotic tropical hardwoods.

Sought after world wide, regardless of where you live.

On Sep 25, 6:22 am, Charles wrote:

Do they build houses from tropical hardwoods in your part of the
world? We don't here.

You don't happen to live in the USA perchance? (Not that I believe for
one moment that USAns build their houses in their homes or places of
work. (Unless you are Bill Gates that is.))

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Sep 25, 6:22 am, Charles wrote:

Do they build houses from tropical hardwoods in your part of the
world? We don't here.

You don't happen to live in the USA perchance? (Not that I believe for
one moment that USAns build their houses in their homes or places of
work. (Unless you are Bill Gates that is.))

I'm in USA, mountains of western North Carolina. This region has a lot of
dirt poor people as well as multi-multi-million dollar homes. You apparently
didn't read what I posted.

No it's not used in studs in the walls. It's used where it's seen, like
floors and decks and lasts forever.

I was researching some material that was used in building a dock (on the
water) that was said to last a lifetime. That's when I discovered most of
the old growth tropical forests, especially in the small island countries
have been totally decimated for the wood. To be honest with you, before my
research, I was not familiar with those tropical woods at all. I certainly
don't advocate using them, just a shame that the "bill gates" of the world
in a quest for those woods has led to their almost total destruction in the
last 40 or 50 years.

It's my understanding that most of the pacific islands have been virtually
stripped, with no old growth forests left. I detest that regardless of where
it's done.

It's not just the forests, "modern man" as torn this old world all to hell
in the last 100 years and it's not just the usa.

On Sep 25, 5:14 pm, "Phil" wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

ps.com... On Sep 25, 6:22 am, Charles wrote:

Do they build houses from tropical hardwoods in your part of the
world? We don't here.

You don't happen to live in the USA perchance? (Not that I believe for
one moment that USAns build their houses in their homes or places of
work. (Unless you are Bill Gates that is.))

I'm in USA, mountains of western North Carolina. This region has a lot of
dirt poor people as well as multi-multi-million dollar homes. You apparently
didn't read what I posted.

No it's not used in studs in the walls. It's used where it's seen, like
floors and decks and lasts forever.

I was researching some material that was used in building a dock (on the
water) that was said to last a lifetime. That's when I discovered most of
the old growth tropical forests, especially in the small island countries
have been totally decimated for the wood. To be honest with you, before my
research, I was not familiar with those tropical woods at all. I certainly
don't advocate using them, just a shame that the "bill gates" of the world
in a quest for those woods has led to their almost total destruction in the
last 40 or 50 years.

It's my understanding that most of the pacific islands have been virtually
stripped, with no old growth forests left. I detest that regardless of where
it's done.

It's not just the forests, "modern man" as torn this old world all to hell
in the last 100 years and it's not just the usa.

I was referring to the other poster. He seems remarkably lacking in
insight. Sorry I insulted your nation but "you" did vote for a chimp:~)

Ya, probably so, but you played follow the leader ! haha

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 25, 5:14 pm, "Phil" wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

ps.com... On Sep 25,
6:22 am, Charles wrote:

Do they build houses from tropical hardwoods in your part of the
world? We don't here.

You don't happen to live in the USA perchance? (Not that I believe for
one moment that USAns build their houses in their homes or places of
work. (Unless you are Bill Gates that is.))

I'm in USA, mountains of western North Carolina. This region has a lot
of
dirt poor people as well as multi-multi-million dollar homes. You
apparently
didn't read what I posted.

No it's not used in studs in the walls. It's used where it's seen, like
floors and decks and lasts forever.

I was researching some material that was used in building a dock (on the
water) that was said to last a lifetime. That's when I discovered most
of
the old growth tropical forests, especially in the small island
countries
have been totally decimated for the wood. To be honest with you, before
my
research, I was not familiar with those tropical woods at all. I
certainly
don't advocate using them, just a shame that the "bill gates" of the
world
in a quest for those woods has led to their almost total destruction in
the
last 40 or 50 years.

It's my understanding that most of the pacific islands have been
virtually
stripped, with no old growth forests left. I detest that regardless of
where
it's done.

It's not just the forests, "modern man" as torn this old world all to
hell
in the last 100 years and it's not just the usa.

I was referring to the other poster. He seems remarkably lacking in
insight. Sorry I insulted your nation but "you" did vote for a chimp:~)

On Sep 25, 5:14 pm, "Phil" wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

ps.com... On Sep 25, 6:22 am, Charles wrote:

Do they build houses from tropical hardwoods in your part of the
world? We don't here.

You don't happen to live in the USA perchance? (Not that I believe for
one moment that USAns build their houses in their homes or places of
work. (Unless you are Bill Gates that is.))

I'm in USA, mountains of western North Carolina. This region has a lot of
dirt poor people as well as multi-multi-million dollar homes. You apparently
didn't read what I posted.

No it's not used in studs in the walls. It's used where it's seen, like
floors and decks and lasts forever.

I was researching some material that was used in building a dock (on the
water) that was said to last a lifetime. That's when I discovered most of
the old growth tropical forests, especially in the small island countries
have been totally decimated for the wood. To be honest with you, before my
research, I was not familiar with those tropical woods at all. I certainly
don't advocate using them, just a shame that the "bill gates" of the world
in a quest for those woods has led to their almost total destruction in the
last 40 or 50 years.

It's my understanding that most of the pacific islands have been virtually
stripped, with no old growth forests left. I detest that regardless of where
it's done.

It's not just the forests, "modern man" as torn this old world all to hell
in the last 100 years and it's not just the USA.

I was not accusing Mr Gates of using tropical woods though they may or
may not be. Tropical hardwoods may not in fact be hardwoods. Parana
Pine for example (a pine or conifer, though deciduous) is a well known
"hardwood" over here.

I heard that the legendary multi millionaire has a home built inside
one of his offices. It is of course state of the art so I wonder if
any wood is used in it.

I posted something a few months before the tidal wave and massive
quake at the end of 2004 about tropical timber destruction and
resource mining stripping the environment of its protection. Look up
the names of some of the countries badly hit and my web name and you
might find it.

If I remember the title of the thread I'll look it up for you, if you
don't beat me to it.

As regards "those who are ruining the earth" those "those" are all of
us. This generation. Me and you.

It is well know that the deforesting of the lower slopes of the
southern? Himalayas is the cause of the perennial flooding and deaths
in Bangladesh. Leaving aside the biblical command for good land
management that is mandatory on all mankind, the fact is that
stripping forests is resulting in murder and all people on the earth
are involved in it in one way or another.

What is the broom stale in your cupboard made of? What edging strips
are used on your doors? What was the packing used for the the imported
product that has nothing to do with timber made from? The pallets, the
wedges, the stills, the chocks, the containers?

Do you drink tea or coffee? What was the chest that the leaves or
beans came in made of? You never see these things but you
inadvertently used them. Even if you don't "have" any of that stuff
you can't control what was used in the ships and other vehicles.
Keruing for example, what is that used for? Door cills, lorry trailer
beds, sea defences near you?

Ever been to a bank or some public offices? Was it well made?
Constructed to show opulence? Have a look at the door frames of shops
you go to or the bars of the pubs.

You just can't help being a part of it. In your innocence you are
subscribing to murder. You can't not.

You can call it manslaughter if you like but if you have to answer to
a god that demands an eye for an eye, who is going to save you, us,
those?

On Sep 25, 8:13 pm, "Phil" wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

I was referring to the other poster. He seems remarkably lacking in
insight. Sorry I insulted your nation but "you" did vote for a chimp:~)

Ya, probably so, but you played follow the leader !

I haven't voted since I was 18.

But you are right about Tory BLiar. He was voted in as a mark of
disrespect to the Conservatives (Tories) who were every bit as corrupt
as Bushco.

So there are just as many dupes over here as there are over there. In
the 60's and 70's the secret service of both the UK and the USA was
actively undermining the opposition and ruling Labour (Socialist)
party. In the 70's it lead to anarchy here, then the Tories got in and
found they were ruling a ship they had sunk.

Then Margaret Thatcher (Ronnie's arse-kisser) got power and sold
everything down the river. After selling the crown jewels she was
booted out by her own yes-men and they turned out to be blatantly
corrupt.

Tory BLiar was seen as the new redeemer of Socialism. But he turned
out to be Maggie II. Even had her blood lust for warring with nations
we were at peace with. Maybe he was thinking to bribe Bushco to end
the IRA's grass root support over there?

Was killing 1.2 unarmed Iraqis worth it? I don't happen to think so.

On Sep 25, 6:05 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
"On February 17, 2006, the village of Guinsaugon on Leyte Island in
the Philippines disappeared. After several days of unusually heavy
rain, a massive landslide swallowed more than 350 houses and an
elementary school, burying more than 1,100 people. Residents of the
village, situated at the foot of a mountain, had no warning."

A quote from EarthObservatory:http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Stu...dslideWarning/

The article continues:

"The map revealed no surprises-the researchers already had a general
idea which regions of the world were susceptible to landslides. "The
most important factors are the slope and soil type. Steep slopes and
coarse soil types are more susceptible to landslides," Hong said.
"And, in terms of land cover, bare soil contributes more to
landslides." The landslide susceptibility map provides a background
against which the scientists could predict the effect of rainfall."

Most of that region of the Pacific has been the subject of illegal
logging. So now you know that you have killed more than a few monkeys
if you subsidised the crime. Unfortunately even countries with
stringent laws about environmental matters fall far below the mark.

And you will have difficulty tracking what timber is used in your
house or place of work.
Sucks, don't it?

Sarawak the last of the free tribes in Borneo under threat from
loggers a video being shown on BBC 2 now.

Coming to a PBS near you shortly, the last episode of this series of
Tribe.

Coincidence or what? (The government of Indonesian settlers is robbing
the nomads because they don't accept the culture of millennia was a
farming regimen.)