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On Sep 10, 10:39*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Sep 10, 9:46*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:





I knew these things were related but couldn't see how.:


*Vanuatu
*Andaman Islands, India Region
*Mid-indian Ridge
*Bonin Islands, Japan Region
*Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
*North Of Ascension Island
*Izu Islands, Japan Region
*Vanuatu
*Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
*Kermadec Islands Region
*Western Xizang-india Border Region
*Santa Cruz Islands
*Santa Cruz Islands
*Iran-iraq Border Region
*Solomon Islands
*Santiago Del Estero, Argentina
*Tonga
*Northwestern Iran
*Vanuatu
*Eastern New Guinea Reg, Papua New Guinea
*Flores Region, Indonesia
*Nias Region, Indonesia
*Izu Islands, Japan Region
*Kepulauan Talaud, Indonesia
*Tonga Region
*Fiji Region
*South Of The Fiji Islands
*Fiji Region
*Tajikistan
*South Of The Fiji Islands


They are near locations that repeat.


By "near locations that repeat" I meant that some of the places were
not many degrees from others in that list. They are a few degrees
apart. About how far apart they would be if they were under a storm
that was traveling about 6 to 12 knots -about as far as it would
travel in the times they are apart.


Tropical storms tend to move at the same speed.


Coincidence?
I don't think so.


Whatever controls the movements of storms controls the
movements of earthquake epicentres. Which lends itself to
a theory about clarifying the movements of storm tracks.


Present techniques are pretty good but run within an error parameter
that indicates that one or more of the functions used in the input
data is a related value caused by the same initial forces but
appearing as a symptom, not a disease.


So if we can use the above information to correct that bit, computed
weather models will improve dramatically.


Which brings me to another problem I have been mulling over for the
last few days.


ACTIVE STORMS
Ike (Atlantic)
Lowell (East Pacific)
Hanna (Atlantic)


Ike is a cat 2 hurricane.


The N Atlantic chart is interesting:

http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


Ordinarily the isobars go up or down in 4 mb increments. I think
Britain is under a col. I don't know how long it will last. Or what
will displace the void.


Last week a bunch of Lows gathered off the coast and rotated as they
elongated over the UK, eventually ending up south of the Isles and
running through via Sea Area:Shannon. Always a bad sign.


Floods ensued.


The charts had better definitions This one is a mess.


Meanwhile over in Vanuatu something stirred?
2008/09/08
5.2 * * 19:52 * *-17.5 * *179.5 * * * * Fiji
7.0 * * 18:52 * *-13.5 * *166.9 * * * * Vanuatu
5.2 * * 10:44 * * -2.2 * *100.4 * * * * Kepulauan Mentawai, Indonesia
6.2 * * 03:03 * *-20.0 * *169.1 * * * * Vanuatu


I wonder how far apart these places are.


I bet they mark the 7 M. down to a 6.8 or lower, it being an
aftershock and all. There should be another one due around the 14th to
16th. And speaking of that spell, it is some 1 hour different to this
one.


(Or 5 or 7 hours, depending on how you look at it. I don't think it
hurts to be meticulous. I aught to give it a try. One of those thing
to put on my list.)


Over in the Americas, Ike is now a mere hurricane heading for Texas,
more stirrings due in the Andreanof Islands by the look of things.


Here we go with that reason the Vanuatu quake wasn't so terrible:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/tcgraphics/wp1508.gif


Now we will see something from this spell that will explain the 6 hour
difference in the spell.


Or not, as the case may be.


Sinlaku
9th = 90k
10th = 105k
11th = 120k
12th =1115k


It was 70 knots a few hours back. It seems to have followed the clock
on this one:
6.1 M. 09th @ 12:23. -9.3; 158.3. SOLOMON ISLANDS


*5.5 * *10th @ 03:00 * * *2.5 * * 96.3 *Simeulue, Indonesia
*5.2 * *10th @ 01:28 * * *30.9 * *83.4 *Western Xizang
*5.0 * *10th @ 01:15 * * *30.8 * *83.5 *Western Xizang
*5.1 * *10th @ 00:19 * * *2.5 * * 96.2 *Simeulue, Indonesia
*5.6 * *09th @ 23:18 * * -11.8 * *166.5 * * * * Santa Cruz Islands
*6.1 * *09th @ 12:23 * * *-9.3 * *158.3 * * * * Solomon Islands


So the bottom 2 quakes signal a cease and desist as well as an
increase in intensity. I think that's fairly safe to say both Ike and
the new one are involved there.


New one on me though (thus new to the world as far as I know.)


The Chinese ones signal the end of Ike as a major player until it
fills the playground up to the Rockies and decides to go home. It will
be interesting to see if it works in concert with any other storms by
the time it or they get to the Carolinas.


Also of interest will be any measure of tornadic stuff with the
Chinese ones. Or perhaps that signal is lost in the arrival ashore of
Ike? Maybe it will spawn cyclonic (or maybe it is the cyclonic)
activity.


Which just leaves us the 2 Indonesian ones. I can't say. But would the
pair be a pairing similar to the others? (The locations of the first
two being pretty close.)


Basically it is a lot of signal and very little white noise.


I can hear it calling, calling my name
The sky is falling, falling's what it says.


Can't speak any louder, I hear it shout
I think it's very interesting and that there is no doubt.


Oh I, I see things everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere
Oh I...
Yes I, I can see it everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere


BBC has sent a representative to the junket that is the physics lab in
Geneva where they hope to avoid setting the planet aflame with
particle physics.


There is a lot of activity along the lines of one of Shakespeare's
plays. It may be much ado about nothing or it might be a well matched
distraining pair. But I think that the Santa Cruz Islands and the
Solomon Islands count as the same place.


I have definitely got a cracked mind.

The BBC sent a bunch of losers to Geneva and saw a lot of nothing.
Despite which, dedicated a lot of airspace to the affair.

500 hundred souls got killed in Haiti after a storm that was well
forecast. No one wanted to go there, obviously.

If they are a close match and the distance apart chronologically
counts for anything, then this is a clue to the disposition of and
probable intensity of tropical storms.


It could tell us where and what. The when will be obvious according to
the weather forecast some 3 to 5 days prior.


Which lends itself to the forecasting of...
damn... lost the thread.


No matter, it will return if it is worth knowing. And I will have lost
nothing if it was worth nothing.


It's annoying though.


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/165_-10.php
A series of quakes acted as pre-quakes or fore-shocks to the ...

Hell, there is no such thing as a fore-shock or an after-shock. They
are no more related to each other than lightning in the same storm.
They are one phenomenon.
(as is the case with a lot of tornadoes in wide-spread storms.)

Meanwhile over in the North Atlantic, the gathering:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


A repeat for Britain, of last weeks weather spell?
It doesn't take much for geophysics to throw the phenomena up on a
distant shore.

Something to do with a thought I had decades ago, that weather
forecasts might foretell earthquakes.


Why did it not click? What eludes me?


Because one half of my brain quite often doesn't know what is going on
in the other half. And I don't know how to get them in harmony. I know
I need to leave it, go away to a diversion and come back to it
refreshed.

But I just don't wish to let it go. It's an intense learning period
that drains all the pleasure out of it. I want to re-read the posts,
go back and look at the websites I visited and see if I can see
anything when I retrace my steps.

But of course, all I am doing is making an effort. I'd be better off
going to the shop and getting some eggs for my breakfast.

2 storms now in the Asian Pacific:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/


Outrageous fortune for those in the so called far east:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/.../10/145_40.php

Some heady stuff most of it too recent to have hit the list yet.

I think the 6.9 M in Hokkaido might be promoted to a 7 or more.

MAP 5.0 2008/09/11 04:01:03 41.987 143.878 35.0 HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP 5.2 2008/09/11 02:16:10 26.915 55.754 10.0 SOUTHERN
IRAN
MAP 5.0 2008/09/11 01:08:12 41.747 143.929 35.0 HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP 5.4 2008/09/11 00:32:49 41.784 143.790 35.0 HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP 6.9 2008/09/11 00:20:53 41.979 143.625 35.0 HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP 6.6 2008/09/11 00:00:02 1.865 127.439 93.1 HALMAHERA,
INDONESIA
MAP 5.8 2008/09/10 16:12:04 -20.261 -69.151 38.0 TARAPACA,
CHILE
MAP 6.6 2008/09/10 13:08:15 8.091 -38.748 10.0 CENTRAL MID-
ATLANTIC RIDGE
MAP 6.1 2008/09/10 11:00:35 26.862 55.801 15.0 SOUTHERN
IRAN

Something about this is hiding in my brain cells but I can't connect
to it. My race relied on people like me when there was no such thing
as radio and the Outer Isles were at the neck of the end of the world.

Those gifted with or touched or some such they were called.
Unfortunates. And they must have been very frustrating to the rest of
the tribe.

Feck em. They want the job they can have it! It doesn't pay very much
and I don't enjoy it like I used to. And what are the wages?

OK.

Let's have a look at the above

5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 Southern Iran
5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 Halmahera, Indonesia
5.8 Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 Southern Iran

That's the sequence

5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 Halmahera, Indonesia

That's the topic for today, children.

5.2 Southern Iran
5.8 Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 Southern Iran

These are the also rans.

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On Sep 11, 6:35*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Sep 10, 10:39*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

On Sep 10, 9:46*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


I knew these things were related but couldn't see how.:


*Vanuatu
*Andaman Islands, India Region
*Mid-indian Ridge
*Bonin Islands, Japan Region
*Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
*North Of Ascension Island
*Izu Islands, Japan Region
*Vanuatu
*Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
*Kermadec Islands Region
*Western Xizang-india Border Region
*Santa Cruz Islands
*Santa Cruz Islands
*Iran-iraq Border Region
*Solomon Islands
*Santiago Del Estero, Argentina
*Tonga
*Northwestern Iran
*Vanuatu
*Eastern New Guinea Reg, Papua New Guinea
*Flores Region, Indonesia
*Nias Region, Indonesia
*Izu Islands, Japan Region
*Kepulauan Talaud, Indonesia
*Tonga Region
*Fiji Region
*South Of The Fiji Islands
*Fiji Region
*Tajikistan
*South Of The Fiji Islands


They are near locations that repeat.


By "near locations that repeat" I meant that some of the places were
not many degrees from others in that list. They are a few degrees
apart. About how far apart they would be if they were under a storm
that was traveling about 6 to 12 knots -about as far as it would
travel in the times they are apart.


Tropical storms tend to move at the same speed.


Coincidence?
I don't think so.


Whatever controls the movements of storms controls the
movements of earthquake epicentres. Which lends itself to
a theory about clarifying the movements of storm tracks.


Present techniques are pretty good but run within an error parameter
that indicates that one or more of the functions used in the input
data is a related value caused by the same initial forces but
appearing as a symptom, not a disease.


So if we can use the above information to correct that bit, computed
weather models will improve dramatically.


Which brings me to another problem I have been mulling over for the
last few days.


ACTIVE STORMS
Ike (Atlantic)
Lowell (East Pacific)
Hanna (Atlantic)


Ike is a cat 2 hurricane.


The N Atlantic chart is interesting:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


Ordinarily the isobars go up or down in 4 mb increments. I think
Britain is under a col. I don't know how long it will last. Or what
will displace the void.


Last week a bunch of Lows gathered off the coast and rotated as they
elongated over the UK, eventually ending up south of the Isles and
running through via Sea Area:Shannon. Always a bad sign.


Floods ensued.


The charts had better definitions This one is a mess.


Meanwhile over in Vanuatu something stirred?
2008/09/08
5.2 * * 19:52 * *-17.5 * *179.5 * * * * Fiji
7.0 * * 18:52 * *-13.5 * *166.9 * * * * Vanuatu
5.2 * * 10:44 * * -2.2 * *100.4 * * * * Kepulauan Mentawai, Indonesia
6.2 * * 03:03 * *-20.0 * *169.1 * * * * Vanuatu


I wonder how far apart these places are.


I bet they mark the 7 M. down to a 6.8 or lower, it being an
aftershock and all. There should be another one due around the 14th to
16th. And speaking of that spell, it is some 1 hour different to this
one.


(Or 5 or 7 hours, depending on how you look at it. I don't think it
hurts to be meticulous. I aught to give it a try. One of those thing
to put on my list.)


Over in the Americas, Ike is now a mere hurricane heading for Texas,
more stirrings due in the Andreanof Islands by the look of things.


Here we go with that reason the Vanuatu quake wasn't so terrible:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/tcgraphics/wp1508.gif


Now we will see something from this spell that will explain the 6 hour
difference in the spell.


Or not, as the case may be.


Sinlaku
9th = 90k
10th = 105k
11th = 120k
12th =1115k


It was 70 knots a few hours back. It seems to have followed the clock
on this one:
6.1 M. 09th @ 12:23. -9.3; 158.3. SOLOMON ISLANDS


*5.5 * *10th @ 03:00 * * *2.5 * * 96.3 *Simeulue, Indonesia
*5.2 * *10th @ 01:28 * * *30.9 * *83.4 *Western Xizang
*5.0 * *10th @ 01:15 * * *30.8 * *83.5 *Western Xizang
*5.1 * *10th @ 00:19 * * *2.5 * * 96.2 *Simeulue, Indonesia
*5.6 * *09th @ 23:18 * * -11.8 * *166.5 * * * * Santa Cruz Islands
*6.1 * *09th @ 12:23 * * *-9.3 * *158.3 * * * * Solomon Islands


So the bottom 2 quakes signal a cease and desist as well as an
increase in intensity. I think that's fairly safe to say both Ike and
the new one are involved there.


New one on me though (thus new to the world as far as I know.)


The Chinese ones signal the end of Ike as a major player until it
fills the playground up to the Rockies and decides to go home. It will
be interesting to see if it works in concert with any other storms by
the time it or they get to the Carolinas.


Also of interest will be any measure of tornadic stuff with the
Chinese ones. Or perhaps that signal is lost in the arrival ashore of
Ike? Maybe it will spawn cyclonic (or maybe it is the cyclonic)
activity.


Which just leaves us the 2 Indonesian ones. I can't say. But would the
pair be a pairing similar to the others? (The locations of the first
two being pretty close.)


Basically it is a lot of signal and very little white noise.


I can hear it calling, calling my name
The sky is falling, falling's what it says.


Can't speak any louder, I hear it shout
I think it's very interesting and that there is no doubt.


Oh I, I see things everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere
Oh I...
Yes I, I can see it everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere


BBC has sent a representative to the junket that is the physics lab in
Geneva where they hope to avoid setting the planet aflame with
particle physics.


There is a lot of activity along the lines of one of Shakespeare's
plays. It may be much ado about nothing or it might be a well matched
distraining pair. But I think that the Santa Cruz Islands and the
Solomon Islands count as the same place.


I have definitely got a cracked mind.


The BBC sent a bunch of losers to Geneva and saw a lot of nothing.
Despite which, dedicated a lot of airspace to the affair.


500 hundred souls got killed in Haiti after a storm that was well
forecast. No one wanted to go there, obviously.


If they are a close match and the distance apart chronologically
counts for anything, then this is a clue to the disposition of and
probable intensity of tropical storms.


It could tell us where and what. The when will be obvious according to
the weather forecast some 3 to 5 days prior.


Which lends itself to the forecasting of...
damn... lost the thread.


No matter, it will return if it is worth knowing. And I will have lost
nothing if it was worth nothing.


It's annoying though.


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/165_-10.php
A series of quakes acted as pre-quakes or fore-shocks to the ...


Hell, there is no such thing as a fore-shock or an after-shock. They
are no more related to each other than lightning in the same storm.
They are one phenomenon.
(as is the case with a lot of tornadoes in wide-spread storms.)


Meanwhile over in the North Atlantic, the gathering:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


A repeat for Britain, of last weeks weather spell?
It doesn't take much for geophysics to throw the phenomena up on a
distant shore.


Something to do with a thought I had decades ago, that weather
forecasts might foretell earthquakes.


Why did it not click? What eludes me?


Because one half of my brain quite often doesn't know what is going on
in the other half. And I don't know how to get them in harmony. I know
I need to leave it, go away to a diversion and come back to it
refreshed.


But I just don't wish to let it go. It's an intense learning period
that drains all the pleasure out of it. I want to re-read the posts,
go back and look at the websites I visited and see if I can see
anything when I retrace my steps.


But of course, all I am doing is making an effort. I'd be better off
going to the shop and getting some eggs for my breakfast.


2 storms now in the Asian Pacific:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/


Outrageous fortune for those in the so called far east:http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/.../10/145_40.php

Some heady stuff most of it too recent to have hit the list yet.

I think the 6.9 M in Hokkaido might be promoted to a 7 or more.

MAP * * *5.0 * *2008/09/11 04:01:03 * * * 41.987 * * * * *143.878 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *5.2 * *2008/09/11 02:16:10 * * * 26.915 * * * * *55.754 * * * *10.0 * * SOUTHERN
IRAN
MAP * * *5.0 * *2008/09/11 01:08:12 * * * 41.747 * * * * *143.929 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *5.4 * *2008/09/11 00:32:49 * * * 41.784 * * * * *143.790 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *6.9 * *2008/09/11 00:20:53 * * * 41.979 * * * * *143.625 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *6.6 * *2008/09/11 00:00:02 * * * 1.865 * * * * * 127.439 * * * 93.1 * * HALMAHERA,
INDONESIA
MAP * * *5.8 * *2008/09/10 16:12:04 * * *-20.261 * * * * *-69.151 * * * 38.0 * * TARAPACA,
CHILE
MAP * * *6.6 * *2008/09/10 13:08:15 * * * 8.091 * * * * * -38.748 * * * 10.0 * * CENTRAL MID-
ATLANTIC RIDGE
MAP * * *6.1 * *2008/09/10 11:00:35 * * * 26.862 * * * * *55.801 * * * *15.0 * * SOUTHERN
IRAN

Something about this is hiding in my brain cells but I can't connect
to it. My race relied on people like me when there was no such thing
as radio and the Outer Isles were at the neck of the end of the world.

Those gifted with or touched or some such they were called.
Unfortunates. And they must have been very frustrating to the rest of
the tribe.

OK.
Let's have a look at the above

5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 * * Southern Iran
5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 * * Halmahera, Indonesia
5.8 * * Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 * * Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 * * Southern Iran

That's the sequence

5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 * * Halmahera, Indonesia

That's the topic for today, children.

5.2 * * Southern Iran
5.8 * * Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 * * Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 * * Southern Iran

These are the also rans.


Lots of pairing. including another 4.9 in Hokkaido to add to this
sequence:
5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 Southern Iran

Yet the storm Sinlaku is still a Cat 2 at 120 knots and slated to
reach 130 knots before it starts to unwind.

But all this pairing indicates otherwise. I must be wrong.

Or not, as the case may be.
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:38:53 GMT, Skywise
wrote:

Hehe, Well put Brian. Thanks

Seems to me that someone is grasping at straws when there are none to
grasp. I hope to see more discussion about weather and less about
non-sense theories.
Roger

Actually, the McNut seems to think there's a link between the
weather and earthquakes, so he's polluting both our groups.

Brian

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On Sep 11, 12:31*am, "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)"
wrote:
"Damon Hill" wrote in message

...



Skywise wrote in news:5WHxk.504946$JM.86263
@newsfe16.ams2:


Weatherlawyer wrote in news:3fa78a1b-4bf1-4db3-
:


I really believe that in certain parts of America, people have started
to mate with vegetables.


Vegetables grow in England, too, ya know?


In the deep South, the kudzu will mate with YOU if you stand still
too long during the growing season. *It might (or not) explain some
things.


--Damon


Am I wrong, or does a lot of this thread have to do
with a basic earthquake report?

If so,, what the #*&%^*#&#^????


I came across sci.geo.earthquakes when the group was more or less
abandoned by decent experts. One or two still take the time to pop in
here from time to time. But it had been taken over by people with
broken minds.

Not that dissimilar to mine.

I too had an idea and the nature to take on the last bastion of
defenders of the faith -who transmogrified into the trolls the last
vestiges of which are Skywise.

Since then, most have seen the error of their ways and gone on to
pasteurs knew. Cleansed, one imagines, of all appurtenances of idiocy.

Skywise has his own venue. He even gulls would be genii to his web,
there to offer example of "their" silliness for all to see.

(I said the posters on here had cracked minds.)

Later I came across a largely defunct group called alt.talk.weather
and supposed that before Google stopped supporting it, I might take it
over. Once in a while innocents, such as yourself, come here to ask
sensible questions.

I used to point them to better places but then, lately, I thought: Why
bother? If they found this place they can find others.

If you want to know what I am posting about and can't be asked reading
my posts, or asking me directly, you won't get too far, is all I can
assure you.

I can't assure you I would be nice to you if you did actually follow
nicer protocols. But it is a suggestion that you might bear in mind
for real life situations.

You can get useful information from either end of an horse if you know
what to look for. If you are satisfied with ****...

(No offense intended to Mr Hill. This particular branch is not a
fruitful part of the tree. Which is not to claim it is sterile.)


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On Sep 11, 6:53*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Sep 11, 6:35*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

On Sep 10, 10:39*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


On Sep 10, 9:46*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


I knew these things were related but couldn't see how..:


*Vanuatu
*Andaman Islands, India Region
*Mid-indian Ridge
*Bonin Islands, Japan Region
*Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
*North Of Ascension Island
*Izu Islands, Japan Region
*Vanuatu
*Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
*Kermadec Islands Region
*Western Xizang-india Border Region
*Santa Cruz Islands
*Santa Cruz Islands
*Iran-iraq Border Region
*Solomon Islands
*Santiago Del Estero, Argentina
*Tonga
*Northwestern Iran
*Vanuatu
*Eastern New Guinea Reg, Papua New Guinea
*Flores Region, Indonesia
*Nias Region, Indonesia
*Izu Islands, Japan Region
*Kepulauan Talaud, Indonesia
*Tonga Region
*Fiji Region
*South Of The Fiji Islands
*Fiji Region
*Tajikistan
*South Of The Fiji Islands


They are near locations that repeat.


By "near locations that repeat" I meant that some of the places were
not many degrees from others in that list. They are a few degrees
apart. About how far apart they would be if they were under a storm
that was traveling about 6 to 12 knots -about as far as it would
travel in the times they are apart.


Tropical storms tend to move at the same speed.


Coincidence?
I don't think so.


Whatever controls the movements of storms controls the
movements of earthquake epicentres. Which lends itself to
a theory about clarifying the movements of storm tracks..


Present techniques are pretty good but run within an error parameter
that indicates that one or more of the functions used in the input
data is a related value caused by the same initial forces but
appearing as a symptom, not a disease.


So if we can use the above information to correct that bit, computed
weather models will improve dramatically.


Which brings me to another problem I have been mulling over for the
last few days.


ACTIVE STORMS
Ike (Atlantic)
Lowell (East Pacific)
Hanna (Atlantic)


Ike is a cat 2 hurricane.


The N Atlantic chart is interesting:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


Ordinarily the isobars go up or down in 4 mb increments. I think
Britain is under a col. I don't know how long it will last. Or what
will displace the void.


Last week a bunch of Lows gathered off the coast and rotated as they
elongated over the UK, eventually ending up south of the Isles and
running through via Sea Area:Shannon. Always a bad sign.


Floods ensued.


The charts had better definitions This one is a mess.


Meanwhile over in Vanuatu something stirred?
2008/09/08
5.2 * * 19:52 * *-17.5 * *179.5 * * * * Fiji
7.0 * * 18:52 * *-13.5 * *166.9 * * * * Vanuatu
5.2 * * 10:44 * * -2.2 * *100.4 * * * * Kepulauan Mentawai, Indonesia
6.2 * * 03:03 * *-20.0 * *169.1 * * * * Vanuatu


I wonder how far apart these places are.


I bet they mark the 7 M. down to a 6.8 or lower, it being an
aftershock and all. There should be another one due around the 14th to
16th. And speaking of that spell, it is some 1 hour different to this
one.


(Or 5 or 7 hours, depending on how you look at it. I don't think it
hurts to be meticulous. I aught to give it a try. One of those thing
to put on my list.)


Over in the Americas, Ike is now a mere hurricane heading for Texas,
more stirrings due in the Andreanof Islands by the look of things.


Here we go with that reason the Vanuatu quake wasn't so terrible:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/tcgraphics/wp1508.gif


Now we will see something from this spell that will explain the 6 hour
difference in the spell.


Or not, as the case may be.


Sinlaku
9th = 90k
10th = 105k
11th = 120k
12th =1115k


It was 70 knots a few hours back. It seems to have followed the clock
on this one:
6.1 M. 09th @ 12:23. -9.3; 158.3. SOLOMON ISLANDS


*5.5 * *10th @ 03:00 * * *2.5 * * 96.3 *Simeulue, Indonesia
*5.2 * *10th @ 01:28 * * *30.9 * *83.4 *Western Xizang
*5.0 * *10th @ 01:15 * * *30.8 * *83.5 *Western Xizang
*5.1 * *10th @ 00:19 * * *2.5 * * 96.2 *Simeulue, Indonesia
*5.6 * *09th @ 23:18 * * -11.8 * *166.5 * * * * Santa Cruz Islands
*6.1 * *09th @ 12:23 * * *-9.3 * *158.3 * * * * Solomon Islands


So the bottom 2 quakes signal a cease and desist as well as an
increase in intensity. I think that's fairly safe to say both Ike and
the new one are involved there.


New one on me though (thus new to the world as far as I know.)


The Chinese ones signal the end of Ike as a major player until it
fills the playground up to the Rockies and decides to go home. It will
be interesting to see if it works in concert with any other storms by
the time it or they get to the Carolinas.


Also of interest will be any measure of tornadic stuff with the
Chinese ones. Or perhaps that signal is lost in the arrival ashore of
Ike? Maybe it will spawn cyclonic (or maybe it is the cyclonic)
activity.


Which just leaves us the 2 Indonesian ones. I can't say. But would the
pair be a pairing similar to the others? (The locations of the first
two being pretty close.)


Basically it is a lot of signal and very little white noise.


I can hear it calling, calling my name
The sky is falling, falling's what it says.


Can't speak any louder, I hear it shout
I think it's very interesting and that there is no doubt.


Oh I, I see things everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere
Oh I...
Yes I, I can see it everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere


BBC has sent a representative to the junket that is the physics lab in
Geneva where they hope to avoid setting the planet aflame with
particle physics.


There is a lot of activity along the lines of one of Shakespeare's
plays. It may be much ado about nothing or it might be a well matched
distraining pair. But I think that the Santa Cruz Islands and the
Solomon Islands count as the same place.


I have definitely got a cracked mind.


The BBC sent a bunch of losers to Geneva and saw a lot of nothing.
Despite which, dedicated a lot of airspace to the affair.


500 hundred souls got killed in Haiti after a storm that was well
forecast. No one wanted to go there, obviously.


If they are a close match and the distance apart chronologically
counts for anything, then this is a clue to the disposition of and
probable intensity of tropical storms.


It could tell us where and what. The when will be obvious according to
the weather forecast some 3 to 5 days prior.


Which lends itself to the forecasting of...
damn... lost the thread.


No matter, it will return if it is worth knowing. And I will have lost
nothing if it was worth nothing.


It's annoying though.


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/165_-10.php
A series of quakes acted as pre-quakes or fore-shocks to the ...


Hell, there is no such thing as a fore-shock or an after-shock. They
are no more related to each other than lightning in the same storm.
They are one phenomenon.
(as is the case with a lot of tornadoes in wide-spread storms.)


Meanwhile over in the North Atlantic, the gathering:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


A repeat for Britain, of last weeks weather spell?
It doesn't take much for geophysics to throw the phenomena up on a
distant shore.


Something to do with a thought I had decades ago, that weather
forecasts might foretell earthquakes.


Why did it not click? What eludes me?


Because one half of my brain quite often doesn't know what is going on
in the other half. And I don't know how to get them in harmony. I know
I need to leave it, go away to a diversion and come back to it
refreshed.


But I just don't wish to let it go. It's an intense learning period
that drains all the pleasure out of it. I want to re-read the posts,
go back and look at the websites I visited and see if I can see
anything when I retrace my steps.


But of course, all I am doing is making an effort. I'd be better off
going to the shop and getting some eggs for my breakfast.


2 storms now in the Asian Pacific:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/


Outrageous fortune for those in the so called far east:http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/.../10/145_40.php


Some heady stuff most of it too recent to have hit the list yet.


I think the 6.9 M in Hokkaido might be promoted to a 7 or more.


MAP * * *5.0 * *2008/09/11 04:01:03 * * * 41.987 * * * * *143.878 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *5.2 * *2008/09/11 02:16:10 * * * 26.915 * * * * *55.754 * * * *10.0 * * SOUTHERN
IRAN
MAP * * *5.0 * *2008/09/11 01:08:12 * * * 41.747 * * * * *143.929 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *5.4 * *2008/09/11 00:32:49 * * * 41.784 * * * * *143.790 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *6.9 * *2008/09/11 00:20:53 * * * 41.979 * * * * *143.625 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *6.6 * *2008/09/11 00:00:02 * * * 1.865 * * * * * 127.439 * * * 93.1 * * HALMAHERA,
INDONESIA
MAP * * *5.8 * *2008/09/10 16:12:04 * * *-20.261 * * * * *-69.151 * * * 38.0 * * TARAPACA,
CHILE
MAP * * *6.6 * *2008/09/10 13:08:15 * * * 8.091 * * * * * -38.748 * * * 10.0 * * CENTRAL MID-
ATLANTIC RIDGE
MAP * * *6.1 * *2008/09/10 11:00:35 * * * 26.862 * * * * *55.801 * * * *15.0 * * SOUTHERN
IRAN


Something about this is hiding in my brain cells but I can't connect
to it. My race relied on people like me when there was no such thing
as radio and the Outer Isles were at the neck of the end of the world.


Those gifted with or touched or some such they were called.
Unfortunates. And they must have been very frustrating to the rest of
the tribe.


OK.
Let's have a look at the above


5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 * * Southern Iran
5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 * * Halmahera, Indonesia
5.8 * * Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 * * Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 * * Southern Iran


That's the sequence


5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 * * Halmahera, Indonesia


That's the topic for today, children.


5.2 * * Southern Iran
5.8 * * Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 * * Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 * * Southern Iran


These are the also rans.


Lots of pairing. including another 4.9 in Hokkaido to add to this
sequence:
5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 * * Southern Iran

Yet the storm Sinlaku is still a Cat 2 at 120 knots and slated to
reach 130 knots before it starts to unwind.

But all this pairing indicates otherwise. I must be wrong.

Or not, as the case may be.


And so we get another storm:
ACTIVE STORMS
Ike (Atlantic)
Sinlaku (West Pacific)
16W (West Pacific)
Lowell (East Pacific

16W isn't likely to grow greater than 30 knots though.

Over here it was a wet night but looks like it could get to be a nice
spell if it holds out. Which may be wishful thinking but the day was
nice.

Here's hoping.


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"Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)" wrote
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Am I wrong, or does a lot of this thread have to do
with a basic earthquake report?

If so,, what the #*&%^*#&#^????


Actually, the McNut seems to think there's a link between the
weather and earthquakes, so he's polluting both our groups.

I read that, put it through my mind..
Then asked myeelf all over again..
Say what?
I don't even think it would effect weather if
it caused a Tsunami right underneath a hurricane.
It would just add to the damage the hurricane
would cause.

Where is Ike anyway, I guess I'm going to surf to
to go and find him...


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Weatherlawyer wrote in news:c48bfe7d-9bb9-45db-
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I came across sci.geo.earthquakes when the group was more or less
abandoned by decent experts. One or two still take the time to pop in
here from time to time.


Yeah. The decent posters left because of nuts like you
driving down down the S/N ratio.


But it had been taken over by people with
broken minds.


Like you?


Not that dissimilar to mine.


You said it.


I too had an idea and the nature to take on the last bastion of
defenders of the faith -who transmogrified into the trolls the last
vestiges of which are Skywise.


Moi? A troll?? hahahahahahah!!!! Hell.. I've been called worse
for pointing out the facts.



Since then, most have seen the error of their ways and gone on to
pasteurs knew. Cleansed, one imagines, of all appurtenances of idiocy.


No. They got tired of crap like yours.



Skywise has his own venue. He even gulls would be genii to his web,
there to offer example of "their" silliness for all to see.

(I said the posters on here had cracked minds.)


What is your obsession with crack?



Later I came across a largely defunct group called alt.talk.weather
and supposed that before Google stopped supporting it, I might take it
over.


Yep. "Take over" with your nonsensical BS.



Once in a while innocents, such as yourself, come here to ask
sensible questions.


And you drive them away never to return.


I used to point them to better places but then, lately, I thought: Why
bother? If they found this place they can find others.


So obviously you care nothing of the quality of discussion in
these groups. You think you own them or something?



If you want to know what I am posting about and can't be asked reading
my posts, or asking me directly, you won't get too far, is all I can
assure you.


Even when asked you just spout more nonsensical BS. You don't
exactly have a track record of anwering peoples questions with
something other than more irrellevant crap.



I can't assure you I would be nice to you if you did actually follow
nicer protocols. But it is a suggestion that you might bear in mind
for real life situations.


So in other words, you are admitting you're trying to **** up these
groups?


You can get useful information from either end of an horse if you know
what to look for. If you are satisfied with ****...


They get plenty of it from you.



To give folks an idea of how much McNut has polluted sci.geo.earthquake,
I used to be the top poster according to Google's stats. Not that I
really care about that. I was quite surprised to learn I held the
rank. But then this nut comes along and has managed to take the top
post in short order. And all of it with a bunch of meaningless ramblings
piled on top of each other. Ever notice how he keeps talking to himself?
The sound of his own voice must sooth him. Poor soul.

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"Skywise" wrote in message
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Weatherlawyer wrote in news:c48bfe7d-9bb9-45db-
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I came across sci.geo.earthquakes when the group was more or less
abandoned by decent experts. One or two still take the time to pop in
here from time to time.


Yeah. The decent posters left because of nuts like you
driving down down the S/N ratio.


But it had been taken over by people with
broken minds.


Like you?


Not that dissimilar to mine.


You said it.


I too had an idea and the nature to take on the last bastion of
defenders of the faith -who transmogrified into the trolls the last
vestiges of which are Skywise.


Moi? A troll?? hahahahahahah!!!! Hell.. I've been called worse
for pointing out the facts.



Since then, most have seen the error of their ways and gone on to
pasteurs knew. Cleansed, one imagines, of all appurtenances of idiocy.


No. They got tired of crap like yours.



Skywise has his own venue. He even gulls would be genii to his web,
there to offer example of "their" silliness for all to see.

(I said the posters on here had cracked minds.)


What is your obsession with crack?



Later I came across a largely defunct group called alt.talk.weather
and supposed that before Google stopped supporting it, I might take it
over.


Yep. "Take over" with your nonsensical BS.



Once in a while innocents, such as yourself, come here to ask
sensible questions.


And you drive them away never to return.


I used to point them to better places but then, lately, I thought: Why
bother? If they found this place they can find others.


So obviously you care nothing of the quality of discussion in
these groups. You think you own them or something?



If you want to know what I am posting about and can't be asked reading
my posts, or asking me directly, you won't get too far, is all I can
assure you.


Even when asked you just spout more nonsensical BS. You don't
exactly have a track record of anwering peoples questions with
something other than more irrellevant crap.

Hope? Maybe he might eventually go away.
Or we might have to wait for the cool down.
Which if the brief news I saw is right about it.
It will pretty much happen like last time.
The Atlantic ocean will experience a sudden cooldown.
It will freez everything between Europe and America in
the northorn hemisphere. But only the Atlantic ocean will
get the effects of the freez.
The Pacific ocean side will not freez.
Eveeryone will experience colder weather then normal.
But it probably won't be a global freez.
It's the same thing that happened 5 times already.
We just rushed it with pumping all the crap into the air.
I just wish I didn't live in the region that'll be hardest hit.
Boo hoo,,..
The full freez-up, won't happen till that rock hits us in the next
few hundred years. By then, we might have the technology
to blast it to pieces.
Most of us will last through this next ice-age.



Keep watching the skis everyone..

Fievel.




I can't assure you I would be nice to you if you did actually follow
nicer protocols. But it is a suggestion that you might bear in mind
for real life situations.


So in other words, you are admitting you're trying to **** up these
groups?


You can get useful information from either end of an horse if you know
what to look for. If you are satisfied with ****...


They get plenty of it from you.



To give folks an idea of how much McNut has polluted sci.geo.earthquake,
I used to be the top poster according to Google's stats. Not that I
really care about that. I was quite surprised to learn I held the
rank. But then this nut comes along and has managed to take the top
post in short order. And all of it with a bunch of meaningless ramblings
piled on top of each other. Ever notice how he keeps talking to himself?
The sound of his own voice must sooth him. Poor soul.

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I hope to see more discussion about weather and less about
non-sense theories.


Agreed. I've only come over here to sta... errr... monitor his
activities to see if he's as quacky over here as he is in my
home group.

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On Sep 11, 7:00*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Sep 11, 6:53*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

On Sep 11, 6:35*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


On Sep 10, 10:39*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


On Sep 10, 9:46*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


I knew these things were related but couldn't see how.:


*Vanuatu
*Andaman Islands, India Region
*Mid-indian Ridge
*Bonin Islands, Japan Region
*Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
*North Of Ascension Island
*Izu Islands, Japan Region
*Vanuatu
*Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
*Kermadec Islands Region
*Western Xizang-india Border Region
*Santa Cruz Islands
*Santa Cruz Islands
*Iran-iraq Border Region
*Solomon Islands
*Santiago Del Estero, Argentina
*Tonga
*Northwestern Iran
*Vanuatu
*Eastern New Guinea Reg, Papua New Guinea
*Flores Region, Indonesia
*Nias Region, Indonesia
*Izu Islands, Japan Region
*Kepulauan Talaud, Indonesia
*Tonga Region
*Fiji Region
*South Of The Fiji Islands
*Fiji Region
*Tajikistan
*South Of The Fiji Islands


They are near locations that repeat.


By "near locations that repeat" I meant that some of the places were
not many degrees from others in that list. They are a few degrees
apart. About how far apart they would be if they were under a storm
that was traveling about 6 to 12 knots -about as far as it would
travel in the times they are apart.


Tropical storms tend to move at the same speed.


Coincidence?
I don't think so.


Whatever controls the movements of storms controls the
movements of earthquake epicentres. Which lends itself to
a theory about clarifying the movements of storm tracks.


Present techniques are pretty good but run within an error parameter
that indicates that one or more of the functions used in the input
data is a related value caused by the same initial forces but
appearing as a symptom, not a disease.


So if we can use the above information to correct that bit, computed
weather models will improve dramatically.


Which brings me to another problem I have been mulling over for the
last few days.


ACTIVE STORMS
Ike (Atlantic)
Lowell (East Pacific)
Hanna (Atlantic)


Ike is a cat 2 hurricane.


The N Atlantic chart is interesting:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


Ordinarily the isobars go up or down in 4 mb increments.. I think
Britain is under a col. I don't know how long it will last. Or what
will displace the void.


Last week a bunch of Lows gathered off the coast and rotated as they
elongated over the UK, eventually ending up south of the Isles and
running through via Sea Area:Shannon. Always a bad sign..


Floods ensued.


The charts had better definitions This one is a mess.


Meanwhile over in Vanuatu something stirred?
2008/09/08
5.2 * * 19:52 * *-17.5 * *179.5 * * * * Fiji
7.0 * * 18:52 * *-13.5 * *166.9 * * * * Vanuatu
5.2 * * 10:44 * * -2.2 * *100.4 * * * * Kepulauan Mentawai, Indonesia
6.2 * * 03:03 * *-20.0 * *169.1 * * * * Vanuatu


I wonder how far apart these places are.


I bet they mark the 7 M. down to a 6.8 or lower, it being an
aftershock and all. There should be another one due around the 14th to
16th. And speaking of that spell, it is some 1 hour different to this
one.


(Or 5 or 7 hours, depending on how you look at it. I don't think it
hurts to be meticulous. I aught to give it a try. One of those thing
to put on my list.)


Over in the Americas, Ike is now a mere hurricane heading for Texas,
more stirrings due in the Andreanof Islands by the look of things.


Here we go with that reason the Vanuatu quake wasn't so terrible:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/tcgraphics/wp1508.gif


Now we will see something from this spell that will explain the 6 hour
difference in the spell.


Or not, as the case may be.


Sinlaku
9th = 90k
10th = 105k
11th = 120k
12th =1115k


It was 70 knots a few hours back. It seems to have followed the clock
on this one:
6.1 M. 09th @ 12:23. -9.3; 158.3. SOLOMON ISLANDS


*5.5 * *10th @ 03:00 * * *2.5 * * 96.3 *Simeulue, Indonesia
*5.2 * *10th @ 01:28 * * *30.9 * *83.4 *Western Xizang
*5.0 * *10th @ 01:15 * * *30.8 * *83.5 *Western Xizang
*5.1 * *10th @ 00:19 * * *2.5 * * 96.2 *Simeulue, Indonesia
*5.6 * *09th @ 23:18 * * -11.8 * *166.5 * * * * Santa Cruz Islands
*6.1 * *09th @ 12:23 * * *-9.3 * *158.3 * * * * Solomon Islands


So the bottom 2 quakes signal a cease and desist as well as an
increase in intensity. I think that's fairly safe to say both Ike and
the new one are involved there.


New one on me though (thus new to the world as far as I know.)


The Chinese ones signal the end of Ike as a major player until it
fills the playground up to the Rockies and decides to go home. It will
be interesting to see if it works in concert with any other storms by
the time it or they get to the Carolinas.


Also of interest will be any measure of tornadic stuff with the
Chinese ones. Or perhaps that signal is lost in the arrival ashore of
Ike? Maybe it will spawn cyclonic (or maybe it is the cyclonic)
activity.


Which just leaves us the 2 Indonesian ones. I can't say. But would the
pair be a pairing similar to the others? (The locations of the first
two being pretty close.)


Basically it is a lot of signal and very little white noise.


I can hear it calling, calling my name
The sky is falling, falling's what it says.


Can't speak any louder, I hear it shout
I think it's very interesting and that there is no doubt.


Oh I, I see things everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere
Oh I...
Yes I, I can see it everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere


BBC has sent a representative to the junket that is the physics lab in
Geneva where they hope to avoid setting the planet aflame with
particle physics.


There is a lot of activity along the lines of one of Shakespeare's
plays. It may be much ado about nothing or it might be a well matched
distraining pair. But I think that the Santa Cruz Islands and the
Solomon Islands count as the same place.


I have definitely got a cracked mind.


The BBC sent a bunch of losers to Geneva and saw a lot of nothing.
Despite which, dedicated a lot of airspace to the affair.


500 hundred souls got killed in Haiti after a storm that was well
forecast. No one wanted to go there, obviously.


If they are a close match and the distance apart chronologically
counts for anything, then this is a clue to the disposition of and
probable intensity of tropical storms.


It could tell us where and what. The when will be obvious according to
the weather forecast some 3 to 5 days prior.


Which lends itself to the forecasting of...
damn... lost the thread.


No matter, it will return if it is worth knowing. And I will have lost
nothing if it was worth nothing.


It's annoying though.


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/165_-10.php
A series of quakes acted as pre-quakes or fore-shocks to the ...


Hell, there is no such thing as a fore-shock or an after-shock. They
are no more related to each other than lightning in the same storm.
They are one phenomenon.
(as is the case with a lot of tornadoes in wide-spread storms.)


Meanwhile over in the North Atlantic, the gathering:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm


A repeat for Britain, of last weeks weather spell?
It doesn't take much for geophysics to throw the phenomena up on a
distant shore.


Something to do with a thought I had decades ago, that weather
forecasts might foretell earthquakes.


Why did it not click? What eludes me?


Because one half of my brain quite often doesn't know what is going on
in the other half. And I don't know how to get them in harmony. I know
I need to leave it, go away to a diversion and come back to it
refreshed.


But I just don't wish to let it go. It's an intense learning period
that drains all the pleasure out of it. I want to re-read the posts,
go back and look at the websites I visited and see if I can see
anything when I retrace my steps.


But of course, all I am doing is making an effort. I'd be better off
going to the shop and getting some eggs for my breakfast.


2 storms now in the Asian Pacific:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/


Outrageous fortune for those in the so called far east:http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/.../10/145_40.php


Some heady stuff most of it too recent to have hit the list yet.


I think the 6.9 M in Hokkaido might be promoted to a 7 or more.


MAP * * *5.0 * *2008/09/11 04:01:03 * * * 41.987 * * * * *143.878 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *5.2 * *2008/09/11 02:16:10 * * * 26.915 * * * * *55.754 * * * *10.0 * * SOUTHERN
IRAN
MAP * * *5.0 * *2008/09/11 01:08:12 * * * 41.747 * * * * *143.929 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *5.4 * *2008/09/11 00:32:49 * * * 41.784 * * * * *143.790 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *6.9 * *2008/09/11 00:20:53 * * * 41.979 * * * * *143.625 * * * 35.0 * * HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP * * *6.6 * *2008/09/11 00:00:02 * * * 1.865 * * * * * 127.439 * * * 93.1 * * HALMAHERA,
INDONESIA
MAP * * *5.8 * *2008/09/10 16:12:04 * * *-20.261 * * * * *-69.151 * * * 38.0 * * TARAPACA,
CHILE
MAP * * *6.6 * *2008/09/10 13:08:15 * * * 8.091 * * * * * -38.748 * * * 10.0 * * CENTRAL MID-
ATLANTIC RIDGE
MAP * * *6.1 * *2008/09/10 11:00:35 * * * 26.862 * * * * *55.801 * * * *15.0 * * SOUTHERN
IRAN


Something about this is hiding in my brain cells but I can't connect
to it. My race relied on people like me when there was no such thing
as radio and the Outer Isles were at the neck of the end of the world..


Those gifted with or touched or some such they were called.
Unfortunates. And they must have been very frustrating to the rest of
the tribe.


OK.
Let's have a look at the above


5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 * * Southern Iran
5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 * * Halmahera, Indonesia
5.8 * * Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 * * Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 * * Southern Iran


That's the sequence


5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 * * Halmahera, Indonesia


That's the topic for today, children.


5.2 * * Southern Iran
5.8 * * Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 * * Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 * * Southern Iran


These are the also rans.


Lots of pairing. including another 4.9 in Hokkaido to add to this
sequence:
5.0 * * Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 * * Southern Iran


Yet the storm Sinlaku is still a Cat 2 at 120 knots and slated to
reach 130 knots before it starts to unwind.


But all this pairing indicates otherwise. I must be wrong.


Or not, as the case may be.


And so we get another storm:
ACTIVE STORMS
Ike (Atlantic)
Sinlaku (West Pacific)
16W (West Pacific)
Lowell (East Pacific

16W isn't likely to grow greater than 30 knots though.

Over here it was a wet night but looks like it could get to be a nice
spell if it holds out. Which may be wishful thinking but the day was
nice.

Here's hoping.


The several ghosts in the machine that threw me off a day or so back
turned up as more storms. Ah the wonders of mass communications. I
wonder that the wisdom of Solomon prevailed against religious
strictures in his day.

No wonder he left the straight and narrow to go exploring.

Ike appears to be headed along the same track as its immediate
predecessor. This spell has proven similar enough (though somewhat
less closely matched up here in the UK) to the last one (as I stated
it would be) to allow me to prognosticate that:

Ike will fill the hinterland as far as the Rockies and the Canadian
border before being swept east in the normal run of things.

Last week an High developed over the Great Lakes pushing the remnants
of (I forget which) previous hurricane out of the country via the
Carolinas.

Which egress served along with the broaching of yet another storm, to
induce several quakes in the places alluded to in previous forecasts.

Ike and a contemporary would do the same. In the absence of another
storm broaching just as Ike is leaving, we will see something else of
interest. Of this there is no doubt.

Meanwhile the Low that was threatening Ireland and points east, has
now gone to Iceland which means we will have nice weather today. Pity
the ground is too wet to induce me out and plant the daffs I bought
weeks ago.

I had to buy them then even though the forecasts were for rain, as
they only appear on the market for a short while. The supermarket
stores them in a brightly lit section of the floor at 21 degrees
centigrade. Hardly conducive to letting them lie to see if the weather
improves.

Which I sort of knew it wouldn't -so why did I by the bloody things?

Well a body may hope may he not?


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