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http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml
HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005 ....AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA... AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150 MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 155 MILES...250 KM. LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES. |
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Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah.
Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse? "Melchizedek" wrote in message oups.com... http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005 ...AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA... AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150 MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 155 MILES...250 KM. LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES. |
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![]() "dan" wrote in message ... Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah. Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse? I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the season in prior years. "Melchizedek" wrote in message oups.com... http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005 ...AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA... AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150 MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 155 MILES...250 KM. LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES. |
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:19:25 GMT, "Steve Bloom"
wrote: "dan" wrote in message ... Just an ordinary year. Couldn't be global warming. Nah. Holy ****, is this going to start happening every year, or even get worse? I wonder how many cat 4 or 5 hurricanes there have been this late in the season in prior years. http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/ne...ntent=w101904A At bottom of above news report says, "There have been 10 late-season hurricanes of Category 3 or higher since 1995." Jon "Melchizedek" wrote in message oups.com... http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005 ...AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA... AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150 MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 155 MILES...250 KM. LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES. |
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Mitch and Michelle in recent memory.
Keith and Iris in early October, but that's not late season. Usually I consider November late season. |
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This just in from the weather.com at midnight PST; the exclamation mark
is theirs (for the record, I think it's just media hype, but what do I know right?): Hurricane Wilma winds now 175 mph! 10/19/2005 2:31 a.m. ET Hurricane Wilma is now a Category 5 hurricane with winds of 175 mph. Melchizedek wrote: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005 ...AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA... AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150 MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 155 MILES...250 KM. LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES. |
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http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190629.shtml
HURRICANE WILMA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 230 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005 DATA FROM A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT HURRICANE WILMA HAS BECOME AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. THE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE MEASURED 175 MPH WINDS AND ESTIMATED A MINIMUM PRESSURE OF 892 MB. THIS IS THE LOWEST PRESSURE OBSERVED IN 2005 AND IS EQUIVALENT TO THE MINIMUM PRESSURE OF THE 1935 LABOR DAY HURRICANE IN THE FLORIDA KEYS. I point out that at 30 miles wide, this is practically a big tornado instead of a hurricane. If the eye hit downtown LA, the winds would be tropical storm level in Beverly Hills where Ray lives in his 'Kato Kaitlin' cottage as gofer for somebody rich dreaming his 7-figure income ($0,000,999). raylopez99 wrote: This just in from the weather.com at midnight PST; the exclamation mark is theirs (for the record, I think it's just media hype, but what do I know right?): Hurricane Wilma winds now 175 mph! 10/19/2005 2:31 a.m. ET Hurricane Wilma is now a Category 5 hurricane with winds of 175 mph. Melchizedek wrote: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190502.shtml HURRICANE WILMA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 15 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005 ...AIR FORCE PLANE FINDS 150 MPH WINDS IN WILMA... AN AIR FORCE PLANE MEASURED MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF NEAR 150 MPH...240 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. WILMA IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. THE HURRICANE COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE TODAY. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 155 MILES...250 KM. LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE JUST REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS IS 901 MB...26.61 INCHES. |
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Science Cop--Global Warming, ain't it cool?
I hope this sucker does HUGE damage (but that nobody gets hurt, just like in a PG-13 rated Hollywood movie). This is cool. Nature at work. Not man, but nature. Happens every so often, like those 100 year storms. Sit back and enjoy the awesome spectacle of the wrath of nature! RL |
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Just for the record, whenever the windspeed increases the weatherguy
increases the rainfall estimates. obviously they have nobody under the hurricane with rain gauges, so i think they are using a tried-but-true formula. Here's from the last report: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/190552.shtml hurricane wilma intermediate advisory number 15a nws tpc/national hurricane center miami fl 2 am edt wed oct 19 2005 wilma is expected to produce storm total accumulations of 10 to 15 inches...with local amounts near 25 inches in mountainous terrain across cuba through friday. additional rainfall accumulations of 5 to 10 inches...with local amounts of 15 inches...are possible across the cayman islands...swan island...and jamaica through thursday. This goes with the windspeed of that report: maximum sustained winds are near 150 mph...240 km/hr...with higher gusts. Previous reports: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005...c_a.013.shtml? hurricane wilma intermediate advisory number 13a 8 pm edt tue oct 18 2005 reports from an air force reserve hurricane hunter aircraft indicate that maximum sustained winds have increased to near 100 mph...160 km/hr...with higher gusts. ... wilma is expected to produce additional rainfall accumulations of 5 to 10 inches...with isolated amounts of 15 inches...over the cayman islands...jamaica...haiti...and cuba. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005...lic.013.shtml? hurricane wilma advisory number 13 5 pm edt tue oct 18 2005 maximum sustained winds are near 80 mph...130 km/hr...with higher gusts. ... wilma is expected to produce additional rainfall accumulations of 5 to 10 inches...with isolated amounts of 15 inches...over the cayman islands...jamaica...haiti...and cuba. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005...c_a.012.shtml? hurricane wilma intermediate advisory number 12a 2 pm edt tue oct 18 2005 maximum sustained winds are near 80 mph...130 km/hr...with higher gusts. ... wilma is expected to produce rainfall accumulations of 4 to 6 inches over the cayman islands...jamaica...haiti...and southeastern cuba...with isolated amounts of 8 to 12 inches possible. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005...lic.012.shtml? hurricane wilma advisory number 12 11 am edt tue oct 18 2005 maximum sustained winds are near 75 mph...120 km/hr...with higher gusts. ... wilma is expected to produce rainfall accumulations of 4 to 6 inches over the cayman islands...jamaica...haiti...and southeastern cuba...with isolated amounts of 8 to 12 inches possible. ----------- You might also notice the speed of increase: Advisory 12A 2pm 75mph, Advisory 15A 2AM 175mph. 4-6 inches rain went to 10-15 inches of rain. Size (diameter) never changed. The windspeed alone is elevating water by the mega-tonnages. Who sez SIZE doesn't matter? Guys with Cat 1 endowment, that's who. You know what Hoggle is packing in his jeans when he sez size doesn't matter... |
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Time to do our math exercise again, Ray...
At 15 mile radius, the Hurricane center of the storm is R^2xPI=A 706.9 Square miles. Rainfall is 10-15 inches inside the Hurricane area. Say 12" (one foot) for easy math. There are 5280x5280 sq.ft. per sq.mi = 27,878,400 sq.ft/mile 27,878,400 x 706.9 s.mi. = 19,707,240,960 cubic feet of water. There are 7.48 gallons per cu.ft (remember this, you will use it often). 7.48 x 19,707,240,960 cubic feet = 138,896,634,286,080 gallons There are 240 gallons per ton (remember this, it's hard to find if you try to look it up later). 138,896,634,286,080 gallons divided by 240 = 578,735,976,192 tons Or say 578.7 megatons. There are 3785.412 CC per gallon, or 5.2578098619e17 CCs in those 578.7 megatons of water. The water temperature was measured by buoys at 29oC. It takes 71 calories to raise each CC to 100oC plus 600 calories to change state from liquid to vapor, or 671 calories per CC. This comes to 3.5279904173e20 calories of energy. Calories are somewhat awkward to use on this scale, so convert to megawatt-hours: 410,305,300,000. This is the Global Warming energy being carried aloft 12 kilometers high to -70oC cloudtops, flash-frozen with the heat energy expelled, and falling as microhail to remelt on it's way down to condense as rain. That's 410 giga-megawatt-hours of WASTED solar energy. The pro-rata portion for 6bn people is 68.4 megawatthours per man, woman and baby around the world. My share would power my house for 29 years at the rate I consumed electricity on my last PG&E bill. This energy exists regardless of GLOBAL WARMING. With GW it is trapped and caught in the Carribean. Without GW it radiates to space. In either case it is no used by a supposedly rational intelligent species. Now that math is the math for the storm duration over one point in geography. The storm moves and leaves the evidence of it's heat content as rain. We looked at on passage of the storm. from the last advisory: WILMA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH...13 KM/HR. A TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. The thirty-mile hurricane core moving at 8 mph will cross the geographic point in 3 hours and 45 minutes. Then it will dissipate that energy all over again, discarding another 410 giga-megawatt-hours of WASTED solar energy. In four mour hours it will do it again, another 410 giga-megawatt-hours of WASTED solar energy. That's what H2-PV is all about. Picking up that manna from heaven and giving the dirty KOCH SUCKERS the finger. There's also quite a few 7-figure salaries for smart guys who get in on the ground floor. |
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