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Default Score one for Astrology: Tropical Depression #27 flies out of Astrologer Piers Corbyn's Butt.

I already have addressed this problems. If you had
bothered to read the first clause of the first
sentence of my post, you would know that.

"Even if you account for the slow growth of the number
of storms per year in the Atlantic Basin . . . "

Part of that slow growth, perhaps a large part,
are improved observing. So, unless you have
a factual complaint, or real data of your own,
the 1 in 10,000 event calculation stands.


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If you have a better data set of tropical storm numbers,
then you are more than welcome to post it here.
If all you have is bluster, then please go away.

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Jik Bombo wrote:

If you have better data for Atlantic Basin huricane numbers,
Mr. Bombast, please post them here. Realize that your
data would have to significantly differ from those i used
in order to change the 1 in 10,000 event calculation.
The data I used are below:


Was your data collected under the same condition and in the same manner all
the way back to 1851?

No?

Then address the implications of that revelation.


The implications have been discussed. The R.I.C.O. organized crime
rings making up the political party known as reTHUGlicans has a
coordinated campaign to discredit the climate records in class-warfare
which enriches the heirs holding controlling blocks of stocks in the
major energy companies. ExxonMobil is still mostly family-owned nearly
a century after the Supreme Court busted up Standard Oil, but left the
stocks of the child-corporations in the same hands the corporate-parent
were held by. These people's assorted stocks holdings just made
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I think the question is posed wrong. How many of the current (since circa
1965) TC would NOT have been detected without satellite. Prior to 1965, the
East Pacific had an average of about 7 TS/Hurricanes detected. Since 1965
it about 16. Does this indicate asignificant increase in TC or an increase
in DETECTION.

(note the numbers are from Memory, please do not post corrections as the
general point still exists)

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
oups.com...
The data I used are the best available to me.
The data are from the NOAA web page given at this URL:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/...arandStorm.htm
The number of storms were counted on the yearly
maps provided.

If you have better data for Atlantic Basin huricane numbers,
Mr. Bombast, please post them here. Realize that your
data would have to significantly differ from those i used
in order to change the 1 in 10,000 event calculation.
The data I used are below:




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Steve Young wrote:
I think the question is posed wrong. How many of the current (since circa
1965) TC would NOT have been detected without satellite. Prior to 1965, the
East Pacific had an average of about 7 TS/Hurricanes detected. Since 1965
it about 16. Does this indicate asignificant increase in TC or an increase
in DETECTION.


The one THIS year that hit Spain was NEVER on the US satellites. It was
reported from birth through death without once making an appearance on
a US National Hurricane Center screen.

You are obviously unfamiliar with paleotempestology, geography,
oceanography and economics.

The USA and the entire Carribean coastal areas were settled early as
ECONOMIC colonies intended to reap large profits through high-volume
sea trade. The Pacific, by contrast had neither destinations nor sea
lanes which intersected the storm spawning regions. One water body was
thick with ships every day of the year, and one was devoid of ships.
Can you guess which was which?

The concept of "Stealth Hurricanes" has been dismissed as not worthy of
further contemplation. There were no one-inch-wide hurricanes which
slipped uncounted between observers without ever breaking a branch or
toppling a tree.


The R.I.C.O. organized crime
rings making up the political party known as reTHUGlicans has a
coordinated campaign to discredit the climate records in class-warfare
which enriches the heirs holding controlling blocks of stocks in the
major energy companies. ExxonMobil is still mostly family-owned nearly
a century after the Supreme Court busted up Standard Oil, but left the
stocks of the child-corporations in the same hands the corporate-parent
were held by. These people's assorted stocks holdings just made
$39,000,000,000 profits last fiscal quarter -- plenty of money for
herds of minimum-wage intern-cattle at corporate-owned non-taxed
propaganda mills.

The internships in class-warfare propaganda factories include:
*** Leadership Institute
http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/
http://tinyurl.com/dg53k
http://tinyurl.com/b5zz5
http://tinyurl.com/bcs8u
*** Charles G. Koch Summer Fellows Program
http://www.theihs.org/subcategory.php/17.html?menuid=3
http://www.theihs.org/subcategory.php/88.html?menuid=3
http://www.theihs.org/article.php/174.html?menuid=3
*** SEPPtic Tank
http://www.theihs.org/article.php/174.html?menuid=3
*** GOP TeamLeaders
http://tinyurl.com/87evt

Young people are taught pathological lying and disorienting
confrontations with opponents to knock them off balance. Successful
graduates may be put on a career path which they can parlay into a
future political career as a servant of the permanent neo-aristocracy
plutocrat class.

LYING about records of climate is a course taught to hundreds of new
(cheap) drones every year.



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Default Score one for Astrology: Tropical Depression #27 flies out of Astrologer Piers Corbyn's Butt.

"Person with many names wrote:

Score one for Astrology


Too early. It still is a tropical depression. Astrology forecast was
for a "Major" tropical storm or a hurricane.


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Default Score one for Astrology: Tropical Depression #27 flies out of Astrologer Piers Corbyn's Butt.

In article .com,
says...
The data I used are the best available to me.
The data are from the NOAA web page given at this URL:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/...arandStorm.htm
The number of storms were counted on the yearly
maps provided.

If you have better data for Atlantic Basin huricane numbers,
Mr. Bombast, please post them here. Realize that your
data would have to significantly differ from those i used
in order to change the 1 in 10,000 event calculation.
The data I used are below:


[Data deleted]

How are you getting 1 in 10,000 years?

Using the more reliable period (1944-2004) from the data you posted, I
plotted p(x=X) vs X, where X is the number of named storms. When I fit
log(p[x=X]) vs X with a linear regression, I get a return period of ~
162 years for X=27.

Harold
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Default Score one for Astrology: Tropical Depression #27 flies out of Astrologer Piers Corbyn's Butt.

Have you noticed that the drones arrive here in waves?
Could it be that the waves happen after graduations from
these schools for lying?



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