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Steve Schulin wrote:

I figured there were folks who'd be interested. Glad to hear that you
wouldn't be offended by more.


Keep posting them. With an 0-3 record, astrology is sure to get one
right sooner or later. Even a stopped clock is right at least once a
day.


Shouldn't that be TWICE a day ???




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"Psalm 110" a écrit dans le message de news:
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Not enough Solar Leprechans flying out of the Astrologer Lobby's
collective buttocks???

And in your well-informed opinion, how many would be enough?



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In article ,
James Annan wrote:

Steve Schulin wrote:

In article E05ff.114013$S4.84492@edtnps84,
"Coby Beck" wrote:


Ok, so we all agree that this prediction failed, though it was close. ...



I don't think we agree on the implications of what's transpired in this
case. At 4 AM on November 15, 2005, the National Hurricane Center
discussed TD27, noting, in part, that "THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST
IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ONE AND SHOWS THE SYSTEM BECOMING A HURRICANE
OVER THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN."


Followed immediately by "HOWEVER"...and a bunch of reasons as to why
they thought this was unlikely.


There was indeed discussion of the official forecast. Yet the forecast
remained the forecast. I encourage skepticism, but the fact remains that
the Weather Action news release of Oct 21 described the NHC official
forecast of Nov 15 quite well.

Meanwhile, Piers Corbyn claimed even as recently as the 15th Nov that
"We find it is likely to become revitalized rather than to weaken from
around the 18th."

I guess we'll find out over the next day or two how right he was...it
seems remiss of the relevant authorities to not have ordered evacuations
in the relevant areas.


LOL - thanks for the reminder. A no-regrets early movement of snow
shovels from shed to garage seems appropriate for us Marylanders.

I see no sign of the promised "major Atlantic storm" in the 20-25 Nov
which will affect the UK, but I confidently predict there will be at
least a light breeze somewhere at some point in that interval.

James


Very truly,

Steve Schulin
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"Steve Young" wrote:

"Phil Hays" wrote:


Keep posting them. With an 0-3 record, astrology is sure to get one
right sooner or later. Even a stopped clock is right at least once a
day.


Shouldn't that be TWICE a day ???


This is true with a twelve hour clock, standard in many parts of the
world. Other places use a twenty four hour clock.


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Steve Schulin wrote:

James Annan wrote:
Steve Schulin wrote:
"Coby Beck" wrote:


Ok, so we all agree that this prediction failed, though it was close. ...


Close only counts in horseshoes and with atomic bombs. "Weather
Action" astrology failed. Again. More forecasts, we need a track
record to sort out the losers.


There was indeed discussion of the official forecast. Yet the forecast
remained the forecast. I encourage skepticism, but the fact remains that
the Weather Action news release of Oct 21 described the NHC official
forecast of Nov 15 quite well.


That is a wild spin, that the astrology is forecasting what the NHC is
going to predict.

The spin doesn't change the sco

"Weather Action" astrology 0 in 3 attempts.


Please keep posting those astrological forecasts, Steve. The more
track record, the clearer it will be just exactly how useful they are.
There is nothing like a track record to sort out the posers.


Just two days to the "major Atlantic storm". Better post another
forecast. If you stop posting them, we might get the idea you are
getting skeptical about astrology. It is so so so sad when nasty
facts break beautiful fantasies.


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In article E1pff.119150$S4.64896@edtnps84,
"Coby Beck" wrote:

"Steve Schulin" wrote
Phil Hays wrote, in part:
wrote:


... the fact remains that
the Weather Action news release of Oct 21 described the NHC official
forecast of Nov 15 quite well.

That is a wild spin, that the astrology is forecasting what the NHC is
going to predict.


You don't seem to find anything worthwhile in having longer-term
forecast identical to state-of-the-art next day forecast. I'm not shy
about disagreeing with you on that.


C'mon, Steve. What's the value when they are both wrong? That's just a
coincidence. Unless you think we should disregard the NHC forecast whenever
it agrees with WeatherAction..? I will happily and non-judgementally say
"Corbyn was right" when that happens. There is nothing to be gained by
denying a failure.


LOL - if folks could have three week heads-up about the when and where
NHC was forecasting a hurricane, many would be happy to have it. I don't
think the dismissive characterizations of what transpired here do
justice to all the facts. Are any of the USA's and other nations'
billions in publicly funded climatology research going towards
evaluating the effects of solar particles on severe weather events, or
the predictability of major changes in particle flux? If not, why not?
The catcalls from the consensus crowd may be great for advancing their
pet theories and agenda, but they may be doing quite a disservice to the
advancement of the science.

Now, if you wanted to use the simple "failure" label on Roger's claim,
made about two weeks before Tropical Depression 27 formed, that it was a
sure thing or somesuch that major tropical storm or hurricane would form
in Carribbean during the around Nov 13-16 period, I would have no
trouble agreeing with you.

Very truly,

Steve Schulin
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Phil Hays wrote:
"Steve Young" wrote:
"Phil Hays" wrote:


Keep posting them. With an 0-3 record, astrology is sure to get one
right sooner or later. Even a stopped clock is right at least once a
day.


Shouldn't that be TWICE a day ???


This is true with a twelve hour clock, standard in many parts of the
world. Other places use a twenty four hour clock.

Dial 24 hour clocks are just like 12 hour clocks. It is
assumed that one can tell night from day. Not always a good assumption
as readers can attest.

josh halpern
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Steve Schulin wrote:

Phil Hays wrote:


You don't seem to find anything worthwhile in having longer-term
forecast identical to state-of-the-art next day forecast.


Sure, the National Hurricane Center's forecasts are sometimes wrong as
well.

So far "Weather Action" astrology is always wrong. But please keep
posting their predictions. Nothing like a track record to point out
the losers.


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