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![]() "mrbawana2u" wrote When are YOU going to do something about it? Oh, I already have, by reducing my carbon emissions to near sustainable levels, and have plans to lower them further. How about you? Oh, I even have plans to force you to do so. |
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![]() "Peter Franks" wrote More rain is good news. Even if it falls on the glaciers of greenland and Antarctica? .. |
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On Sep 10, 2:20 am, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans"
wrote: "mrbawana2u" wrote When are YOU going to do something about it? Oh, I already have, by reducing my carbon emissions to near sustainable levels, and have plans to lower them further. Inflation cutting into your welfare, scuttle nutts? How about you? My carbon emissions grow every year. Prosperity does that. I look forward to burning leafs soon. Cheap co2. Oh, I even have plans to force you to do so. Failures begats failure. |
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![]() "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" wrote: Oh, I already have, by reducing my carbon emissions to near sustainable levels, and have plans to lower them further. "mrbawana2u" wrote Inflation cutting into your welfare, scuttle nutts? My work income is keeping pace with inflation. But not so the poor AmeriKKKan public, who have not only witnessed a real decline in wages over the BushCo era, but have on top of that loss experienced a near 40% decline in the value of the AmeriKKKan dollar on the world stage and hence the value of their net worth. Ahahahahaha... That's some impressive record for you RepubliKKKans to be proud of. Seldom has the world seen such remarkable fiscal mismanagement as we have seen with the absolutely corrupt AmeriKKKan RepubliKKKan party. "mrbawana2u" wrote My carbon emissions grow every year. Doing your part to keep the Arab nations and the Soviet Union, and the socialist oil producing states rolling in cash ay? Excellent. "mrbawana2u" wrote Prosperity does that. Tell that to the AmeriKKKan steel industry that has been priced out of existance largely due to it's reliance on old energy intensive production methods. "mrbawana2u" wrote I look forward to burning leafs soon. I just let them rot where they fall. Better for the soil and with the same carbon footprint. Raking leaves is for old men who have nothing better to do with their lives. You know like Ronald Reagan who spend we are told much of the end of his life raking leaves while the U.S. SS stood behind him empting the bags to give the Alzhimers ridden koot something to do. "mrbawana2u" wrote Failures begats failure. So your children are losers to ay? |
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Scott Nudds aka "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans"
wrote in message ... wrote to VD Scotty: Inflation cutting into your welfare, scuttle nutts? [Scuttle Nutts to Prof. Bawana] My work income is keeping pace with inflation. [hanson] ahahahaha... VD Scotty, you.... "work"?... AHAHAHAHA... You mean it's your late welfare checKKK from AmeriKKKA that is worKKKing you up!... Here is even more to worKKK you, so that you can sKKKuttle your Nutts again, and it worKKKs liKKKe clocKKK worKKK on you, every time... http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...062159e?hl=en& http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...f1c505ad?hl=en ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahahanson , |
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![]() "hanson" wrote Absolutely Nothing. Meanwhile as the Globe Warms.... Bush outlines his financial connections to Afghan opium production. Afghan poppy industry eludes U.S. control - CNN.com /asia September 7, 2007 Afghan poppy industry eludes U.S. controlStory Highlights NANGARHAR, Afghanistan -- In a small district in southern Afghanistan, U.S.-backed Afghan drug forces opened fire on farmers who were blocking roads and throwing rocks to protest the destruction of their poppy fields earlier this year. Scores were injured in the firefight. A farmer stands in an illegal opium producing poppy farm one hour away from Jalalabad, Afghanistan. 1 of 3 more photos » Undeterred by the violence, a group of angry farmers gathered around Masood Azizi, the Afghan official supervising the eradication. They maintained that cultivating poppy for opium is the only way they can survive. "We are hungry, thirsty, and we don't have any money. We are in debt," one said. It's a message that reverberates throughout this impoverished, war-torn country. Poppy production in this part of Afghanistan -- the Nangarhar province -- was nearly wiped out in 2005, but it rebounded this year with a staggering increase of 285 percent, according to a new report from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime report. Eradicating opium poppies has been a key pillar of U.S. policy in Afghanistan since 2004, said Doug Wankel, director of the U.S. Counter-Narcotics Task Force in Afghanistan. Yet today, Afghanistan produces roughly 93 percent of the world's illicit opium, according to the UNODC report, and the Taliban are making inroads in remote areas of the country thanks, in part, to proceeds from the drug trade. Check out some top provinces for opium production » Experts say more farmers are producing poppies because they have been unable to earn a living by growing other crops like wheat and vegetables. They say that the money promised by Afghan President Hamid Karzai and the international community to plant these alternative crops has not materialized. Tour an illegal poppy farm during harvest season » "Not only are they back to cultivating poppy because they did not receive any alternative livelihoods, but they're angry at the broken promises, and they don't trust us anymore," said Norine MacDonald of SENLIS, an international think tank focusing on drug policy. Afghanistan's Addiction Anderson Cooper traces the opium journey, from poppy flower to addict. A deadly drug pushing a country into crisis. "You can try to kill us, but we will still grow poppy," one farmer told CNN. Afghan poppies, which start as flowers in farmers' fields and often wind up as heroin on U.S. streets, fuel a $3 billion a year industry in Afghanistan. The industry is filling the coffers of the Taliban, the group who gave safe haven to al Qaeda before and after 9/11, and it is destabilizing the Afghan government. Learn how poppies are turned into heroin » "The Taliban pretty much were ancient history four years ago, and now they are back, because they are deriving money from the drug trade," said Peter Bergen, a CNN terrorism analyst. Disenchanted farmers find ready allies in the Taliban, who provide protection for them and their fields. Both groups align with drug lords who provide upfront money and credit for crops, pay farmers cash, and after the harvest, pick up the opium themselves. For farmers who may not even own trucks to get crops to market, this service is invaluable. "Drug eradication is a fantastic opportunity for the Taliban," said Peter Jouvenal, a British journalist who has reported from Afghanistan for more than two decades. "It gives them the opportunity to recruit farmers that are fed up with these foreigners coming in and destroying their land." U.S. officials claim a lack of opportunity is no excuse for farmers to break the law. "Look, we know you need development and that is coming, but the lack of development is not an excuse to go against the constitution, to break the law, to support the enemy," said Wankel. "I mean, that's part of the message that goes out to the people." Wankel's goal is to wipe out enough poppy fields that farmers will think twice before they plant poppies again. Less than 10 percent were destroyed last year. The U.N. estimates that eradication of 25 percent of the poppy crop would start to turn the tide. See photos of eradication efforts » The Taliban use their share of drug proceeds to build up their forces in the frontier provinces in the southern part of the country, which is also home to the most poppy production. This puts pressure on local governments as well as President Karzai's government in Kabul. It also enables the Taliban to hire forces to attack U.S. and NATO troops. "This place has shown itself to be something very, very usable for the fundamentalists to operate from to do whatever is necessary to continue their war of terrorism," Wankel said. American officials are cautious about connecting Taliban drug money to al Qaeda-sponsored terrorism outside of Afghanistan. But Afghan officials say there is little doubt that some money reaches the terrorist organization. "The drug [money] is directly funding terrorism. The drug is directly funding the Taliban, and I wouldn't differentiate between the al Qaeda and the Taliban," said Mirwais Yasini, the former Afghan counter-narcotics minister. In the past year, U.S. and Afghan counter-narcotics officials have placed a new emphasis on targeting drug kingpins, even those who are government officials. In June, U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration officers and Afghan agents arrested Abdul Khaliq, a provincial police chief. The bust netted 30 kilos of heroin, worth roughly $1.5 million on the streets of the United States. Wankel warns that not containing the drug trade that funds the Taliban insurgency could have wider consequences: "We lose this government, we could have another 9/11 here, so we have to succeed not only for Afghanistan, but for the region and for the world." E-mail to a friend CNN's Jason White contributed to this report from New York. |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:57:25 -0700, mrbawana2u
wrote: I look forward to burning leafs soon. I burn leafs every afternoon. |
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Exterminate -- I agree that the Bush administration is awful; they've
done all of the evil economic deeds you're talking about, and I hope you and others kick their butts in the next election. But why don't you stick to the topic of this usenet group, which is "alt.global-warming"? When you post a lot of partisan political statements in the "alt.global-warming" group, you probably are giving a lot of people the impression that global warming is a partisan issue -- Meaning that all good Republicans and all good Bush supporters can supposedly ignore it: "Hey, it's only a LIB-RAL DEMOCRATIC plot." And it isn't. I wouldn't vote for most of these guys, but there are Republicans as well as Democrats in the US who are waking up to the danger of the climate change situation. And, in some cases, to the economic advantages that their states may gain by moving to address the climate change and CO2 situation. Examples of Republicans who have been taking important steps at the state level to deal with CO2 emissions and climate change now include Charlie Crist, Republican governor of Florida; Tim Pawlenty, GOP governor of Florida, and of course California's GOP governor Arnold Schwarznegger. On the national level, meanwhile, GOP senator and presidential hopeful John McCain has been speaking the truth on AGW for some time now, and has co-sponsored legislation to deal with it. None of these Republicans is secretly doing "LIB RAL" & Democratic bidding on this issue, Exterminate. McCain is pretty damned conservative on most issues, and so apparently is Crist. But they're also smart enough and honest enough to recognize the threat that CO2-driven climate change poses to their states, and indeed to the whole country, and so they're formulating "Republican" approaches to it. Given that the American electorate has recently been pretty evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats, I think you need to be acknowledging the CLIMATE contributions that these GOP politicians are making. Otherwise, you're just playing into the game of the AGW Deniers, and putting a "Democratic" tag on the issue of climate change that is guaranteed to keep millions of Americans from taking it seriously. On Sep 11, 7:24 pm, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" wrote: "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" wrote: Oh, I already have, by reducing my carbon emissions to near sustainable levels, and have plans to lower them further. "mrbawana2u" wrote Inflation cutting into your welfare, scuttle nutts? My work income is keeping pace with inflation. But not so the poor AmeriKKKan public, who have not only witnessed a real decline in wages over the BushCo era, but have on top of that loss experienced a near 40% decline in the value of the AmeriKKKan dollar on the world stage and hence the value of their net worth. Ahahahahaha... That's some impressive record for you RepubliKKKans to be proud of. Seldom has the world seen such remarkable fiscal mismanagement as we have seen with the absolutely corrupt AmeriKKKan RepubliKKKan party. "mrbawana2u" wrote My carbon emissions grow every year. Doing your part to keep the Arab nations and the Soviet Union, and the socialist oil producing states rolling in cash ay? Excellent. "mrbawana2u" wrote Prosperity does that. Tell that to the AmeriKKKan steel industry that has been priced out of existance largely due to it's reliance on old energy intensive production methods. "mrbawana2u" wrote I look forward to burning leafs soon. I just let them rot where they fall. Better for the soil and with the same carbon footprint. Raking leaves is for old men who have nothing better to do with their lives. You know like Ronald Reagan who spend we are told much of the end of his life raking leaves while the U.S. SS stood behind him empting the bags to give the Alzhimers ridden koot something to do. "mrbawana2u" wrote Failures begats failure. So your children are losers to ay? |
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Scott Nudds aka "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans"
wrote in message ... "hanson" wrote Absolutely Nothing. Meanwhile as the Globe Warms... ..... like this here which warms & worms you even more, Scuttle Nutts... http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...062159e?hl=en& http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...f1c505ad?hl=en ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahahanson |
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On Sep 12, 9:53 am, David wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:57:25 -0700, mrbawana2u wrote: I look forward to burning leafs soon. I burn leafs every afternoon. The buds work much better. |
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