On Mar 26, 10:38*am, Tunderbar wrote:
On Mar 26, 10:57*am, Roger Coppock wrote:

Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
Risk

Please see:
ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main3968165.shtml

Antarctica is 5.4 million square miles in area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica

160 square miles is nothing.

.00002963 of the ice mass.

At that rate it would take 1000 years to lose .02963 of the ice mass.
If that were to happen once a year every year for 1000 years.

Now that is underwhelming.

Well, back in 2002 3,250 sq miles iceberg made a headline:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larsen_Ice_Shelf

That is like 20 times more?

So, extrapolating the trend, we may assume, ice breakage slowed down,
and is scheduled to completely stop. Question: where would the snow
accumulated in the vast antarctinc interior go? Question #2, how does
this event fit into the falling global temperatures picture? The ice
pack coverage in Antarctica slightly grew, and yet the sky (oops, the
iceberg) is falling?

On Mar 26, 7:13*pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
wrote:
"Tunderbar"

It's the end of summer in the southern hemisphere. It happens.

* Lets see we have had three major ice shelves in the antarctic collapse
within the last 15 years. *Zero in the previous 100 years.


Zero in the previous 100 years???? Your evidence is........
Tell me ....do you have satellite photos from the 1920's???


* Apparently it doesn't happen very often, and is happening with great
frequency today.

It's called change.... get used to it... Global Warming...
Global Cooling.. Climate always changes, sometimes slowly...
sometimes quite abruptly......... don't be afraid VD...... you will
be o.k. Take one of your meds and try to calm down.
Sit an a relaxed position,,,, close your eyes.. and repeat
in your mind .... "I am safe and I will be o.k.....I am safe and I
will be o.k. .... the Earth always changes..... The Earth always
changes..... "

Repeat this for twenty minutes in a quiet and private room twice a
day for twenty minutes after you have taken one of your
sedatives......

Poor Vendicar..... I do hope he recovers........



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On Mar 26, 1:16*pm, Tegiri Nenashi wrote:
On Mar 26, 10:38*am, Tunderbar wrote:





On Mar 26, 10:57*am, Roger Coppock wrote:

Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
Risk

Please see:
ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main3968165.shtml

Antarctica is 5.4 million square miles in area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica

160 square miles is nothing.

.00002963 of the ice mass.

At that rate it would take 1000 years to lose .02963 of the ice mass.
If that were to happen once a year every year for 1000 years.

Now that is underwhelming.

Well, back in 2002 3,250 sq miles iceberg made a headline:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larsen_Ice_Shelf

That is like 20 times more?

So, extrapolating the trend, we may assume, ice breakage slowed down,
and is scheduled to completely stop. Question: where would the snow
accumulated in the vast antarctinc interior go? Question #2, how does
this event fit into the falling global temperatures picture? The ice
pack coverage in Antarctica slightly grew, and yet the sky (oops, the
iceberg) is falling?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Even bigger ice breakage event:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg_B15

OMG, 17 miles wide ice shelf collapsed! So cranking away 17 miles of
ice, say every decade, is it too much or too little. OK, consider:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ice_Shelf

It moves 1.5 meters *a day*. An exersize for number phobic environuts:
without ice breakage events how long would it take the Ross Ice Shelf
to reach New Zealand?

Roger Coppock wrote:
Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
Risk

Please see:
ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main3968165.shtml

This without context means nothing.

To establish a relevant context, please describe:

- average rate of ice movement in this area at this time of year

- history of rate of ice movement in this area at this time of year

- average amount of ice shed each year

- history of amount of ice shed each year

"Tunderbar"
It's the end of summer in the southern hemisphere. It happens.

Lets see we have had three major ice shelves in the antarctic collapse
within the last 15 years. Zero in the previous 100 years.

Apparently it doesn't happen very often, and is happening with great
frequency today.

On Mar 26, 10:15 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
wrote:
"Mr Right" wrote

At that rate, Antarctica will disappear in 33,750 years, IF NO MORE
WATER EVER FREEZES TO FORM ICE THERE.

And if the temperature increase wasn't accelerating - which it is - and if
CO2 levels were kept at currentl levels - but they are increasing at a rate
of 2% per year.

Last time I looked temperatures aren't "accelerating", they are flat.
So much for 16ppm of co2.


And then the Antarctic wouldn't need to completely melt to innundate all
of the worlds coastlines. even a 1% melt would be a complete disaster.

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Tunderbar wrote:

On Mar 26, 10:15 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
wrote:
"Mr Right" wrote

At that rate, Antarctica will disappear in 33,750 years, IF NO MORE
WATER EVER FREEZES TO FORM ICE THERE.

And if the temperature increase wasn't accelerating - which it is - and if
CO2 levels were kept at currentl levels - but they are increasing at a rate
of 2% per year.

Last time I looked temperatures aren't "accelerating", they are flat.
So much for 16ppm of co2.

Right, plus who has said temperature deviation is proportional to CO2
content of the atmosphere?

--
regards , Peter B. P. http://macplanet.dk
Washington D.C.: District of Criminals

"I dont drink anymore... of course, i don't drink any less, either!

PeterBP wrote:
Tunderbar wrote:

On Mar 26, 10:15 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
wrote:
"Mr Right" wrote

At that rate, Antarctica will disappear in 33,750 years, IF NO MORE
WATER EVER FREEZES TO FORM ICE THERE.
And if the temperature increase wasn't accelerating - which it is - and if
CO2 levels were kept at currentl levels - but they are increasing at a rate
of 2% per year.
Last time I looked temperatures aren't "accelerating", they are flat.
So much for 16ppm of co2.

Right, plus who has said temperature deviation is proportional to CO2
content of the atmosphere?

The IPCC Hockey stick?

On Mar 27, 5:34*pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
wrote:
"Talk-n-Dog" wrote

The IPCC Hockey stick?

* One of at least a dozen, showing a rapid rise in temperatures over the
last several thousand years.

If there has been a rise in temperature over the last several thousand
years, then it can not be due to AGW. Please tell the IPCC and all of
the other AGW nuts.

On Mar 26, 4:02*pm, Peter Franks wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
Huge Chunk Of Antarctic Ice Collapses
Global Warming Blamed For Ice Shelf Collapse That Puts Larger Area At
Risk

Please see:
ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/tech/main3968165.shtml

This without context means nothing.

To establish a relevant context, please describe:

* - average rate of ice movement in this area at this time of year

* - history of rate of ice movement in this area at this time of year

* - average amount of ice shed each year

* - history of amount of ice shed each year

Gee! I'm pleasantly surprised at you, Peter.
You're acting like a scientist. That's very
rare for this newsgroup.