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Accuweather
http://global-warming.accuweather.co...e_sheet_1.html

"The northern fringes of Greenland's ice sheet
experienced much higher the normal melting
during 2008, according to NASA researchers."

David Christainsen - Meteorologist

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On Mar 6, 12:23*pm, Dave wrote:
Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/03/northern_fringes_of_ice...

"The northern fringes of Greenland's ice sheet
experienced much higher the normal melting
during 2008, according to NASA researchers."

David Christainsen - Meteorologist


And Alaska and much of Canada had a much colder and wetter summer then
usual in 2008 as has been mentioned many times in the group with
Alaska glciers advancing for a change.
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Dave wrote:
Accuweather
http://global-warming.accuweather.co...e_sheet_1.html

"The northern fringes of Greenland's ice sheet
experienced much higher the normal melting
during 2008, according to NASA researchers."


NASA?!

What have they got to do with ice, melt, or Greenland?

Maybe we should go to NOAA to get a /successful/ launch and /working/
probe...

NASA - Not A Space Agency.
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On Mar 6, 12:07*pm, Catoni wrote:
On Mar 6, 12:23*pm, Dave wrote:

Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/03/northern_fringes_of_ice...


"The northern fringes of Greenland's ice sheet
experienced much higher the normal melting
during 2008, according to NASA researchers."


David Christainsen - Meteorologist


And Alaska and much of Canada had a much colder and wetter summer then
usual in 2008 as has been mentioned many times in the group with
Alaska glciers advancing for a change.


Yo Jerkco That oes not compensate for the loss of glacier ice in
greenland. Also the alaskan glaciers are in general melting and one
year of advance does not represent a turnaround. You win the moron of
ignorance award. Enjoy FOOL
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On Mar 6, 12:07*pm, Catoni wrote:
On Mar 6, 12:23*pm, Dave wrote:

Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/03/northern_fringes_of_ice...


"The northern fringes of Greenland's ice sheet
experienced much higher the normal melting
during 2008, according to NASA researchers."


David Christainsen - Meteorologist


And Alaska and much of Canada had a much colder and wetter summer then
usual in 2008 as has been mentioned many times in the group with
Alaska glciers advancing for a change.


Also MORON GO HERE

http://ak.water.usgs.gov/glaciology/...er_balance.htm


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On Mar 6, 8:54*pm, rich wrote:
On Mar 6, 12:07*pm, Catoni wrote:

On Mar 6, 12:23*pm, Dave wrote:


Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/03/northern_fringes_of_ice...


"The northern fringes of Greenland's ice sheet
experienced much higher the normal melting
during 2008, according to NASA researchers."


David Christainsen - Meteorologist


And Alaska and much of Canada had a much colder and wetter summer then
usual in 2008 as has been mentioned many times in the group with
Alaska glciers advancing for a change.


Also MORON GO HERE

http://ak.water.usgs.gov/glaciology/...er_balance.htm


Why does it stop in 2005? surely the have later data.
I suppose the later data does not confirm warming
but indicates cooling, so it is omitted.
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On 8/03/09 10:36, in article
, "chemist"
wrote:

Why does it stop in 2005? surely the have later data.


Maybe not fully collected and published, In science one is
often a couple of years behind by the time one publishes
a paper (roughly it takes a year to prepare a paper and
9 months between submittal and final appearance.

Chemist, tell us, have you ever published a paper in
a peer review journal?

An update of the current situation is at

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On 8/03/09 12:25, in article , "Earl
Evleth" wrote:

On 8/03/09 10:36, in article
, "chemist"
wrote:

Why does it stop in 2005? surely the have later data.


Maybe not fully collected and published, In science one is
often a couple of years behind by the time one publishes
a paper (roughly it takes a year to prepare a paper and
9 months between submittal and final appearance.

Chemist, tell us, have you ever published a paper in
a peer review journal?

An update of the current situation is at



http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2033


Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says Major USGS
Report Released: 10/6/2008 11:44:25 AM

That is updated.


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On Mar 8, 12:25 pm, Earl Evleth wrote:
On 8/03/09 10:36, in article
, "chemist"

wrote:
Why does it stop in 2005? surely the have later data.


Maybe not fully collected and published, In science one is
often a couple of years behind by the time one publishes
a paper (roughly it takes a year to prepare a paper and
9 months between submittal and final appearance.

The worst case scenario I experienced recently. I submitted to a
journal, received back editor's comments, reworked paper, it went to
the referees, reworked again to incorporate referees comments.

At which point the journal's editor changed. The new editor and his
panel decided on a fresh approach for the subject matter covered by
the journal, and would not accept that his predecessor had agreed to
publish my work. Start over with different journal, different editor,
different referees - so different comments and more reworking.
Referees and editor proposed splitting into two shorter papers. Split
into two papers and resubmitted.

Now the real killer. The editor changed on the second journal
meanwhile, and the new editor thought my work was better as a single
paper!! Eventually the process resulted in acceptance, but there was
still a backlog of papers to pass through ahead of mine.Total time to
publication 6+ years.

Chemist, tell us, have you ever published a paper in
a peer review journal?


Most of the time Tom can't even string together a coherent sentence on
alt g-w. How could he be expected to publish in a respectable journal?

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On Mar 8, 7:29*am, Earl Evleth wrote:
On 8/03/09 12:25, in article , "Earl





Evleth" wrote:
On 8/03/09 10:36, in article
, "chemist"
wrote:


Why does it stop in 2005? surely the have later data.


Maybe not fully collected and published, In science one is
often a couple of years behind by the time one publishes
a paper (roughly it takes a year to prepare a paper and
9 months between submittal and final appearance.


Chemist, tell us, have you ever published a paper in
a peer review journal?


An update of the current situation is at


http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2033

Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says Major USGS
Report Released: 10/6/2008 11:44:25 AM

That is updated. *- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


NOPE !!!

Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says
Major USGS Report
Released: 10/6/2008 11:44:25 AM
Most glaciers in every mountain range and island group in Alaska are
experiencing significant retreat, thinning or stagnation, especially
glaciers at lower elevations, according to a new book published by the
U.S. Geological Survey. In places, these changes began as early as the
middle of the 18th century.
550-page volume

Notice the date of the article. Notice also that it is a 550 page
book that was just published at the time. The data in the book had to
have come from previous information at least earlier in the year or
from the previous year and years before.

The fact is, it could not include data from that summer, and fall.
It take time to put together, and publish and print books.

The cooler and wetter then usual summer resulted in advancing of
the glaciers after the information for that book was assembled.

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