On Nov 14, 6:13*am, Roger Coppock wrote:
48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.

9 and 3/4 years is a short period; I'd like to see
a longer interval.

However . . .
For those of you who lack statistical sophistication
and use extrema over short intervals to measure
climate trends, here it is.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Temperature records: More highs than lows
Nov 12, 12:38 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Record high temperatures are occurring more than
twice as often as record lows.

According to a new study, between Jan. 1, 2000 and Sept. 30, this year
the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420
record lows at various locations.

"Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather
in the United States," said Gerald Meehl, a researcher at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and the lead author of the study.

In addition to NCAR, the research was done by scientists at the
Weather Channel and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
It is being published in Geophysical Research Letters.

Have a look at this thread from Feb 2009, in which I presented data on
all time record highs for the 50 states of America (covering approx
125 years).

Record highs, record lows, and references
http://groups.google.co.nz/group/alt...2a3aa91?hl=en#

It directly contradicts the recent study (Record High Temperatures Far
Outpace Record Lows Across U.S) referred to by Roger and others.

In the thread, Roger said "Greenhouse gas warming should not result in
increasing high temperature records. Greenhouse gases trap heat most
during winter nights. See the Arrhenius paper and Easterling, David
R., et al. “Maximum and Minimum Temperature Trends for the Globe.”
SCIENCE Vol. 277. 18, July 1997: pp.
364-367."

Perhaps Roger should contact the authors of this new paper (Gerald A.
Meehl, Claudia Tebaldi, Guy Walton, David Easterling, and Larry
McDaniel), and tell them that they have got it all wrong.

On Nov 14, 1:10*pm, Mr Right wrote:
On Nov 14, 6:13*am, Roger Coppock wrote:



48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.

9 and 3/4 years is a short period; I'd like to see
a longer interval.

However . . .
For those of you who lack statistical sophistication
and use extrema over short intervals to measure
climate trends, here it is.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Temperature records: More highs than lows
Nov 12, 12:38 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Record high temperatures are occurring more than
twice as often as record lows.

According to a new study, between Jan. 1, 2000 and Sept. 30, this year
the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420
record lows at various locations.

"Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather
in the United States," said Gerald Meehl, a researcher at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and the lead author of the study.

In addition to NCAR, the research was done by scientists at the
Weather Channel and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
It is being published in Geophysical Research Letters.

Have a look at this thread from Feb 2009, in which I presented data on
all time record highs for the 50 states of America (covering approx
125 years).

Record highs, record lows, and referenceshttp://groups.google.co.nz/group/alt.global-warming/browse_thread/thr...

It directly contradicts the recent study (Record High Temperatures Far
Outpace Record Lows Across U.S) referred to by Roger and others.

In the thread, Roger said "Greenhouse gas warming should not result in
increasing high temperature records. Greenhouse gases trap heat most
during winter nights. *See the Arrhenius paper and Easterling, David
R., et al. *“Maximum and Minimum Temperature * Trends for the Globe..”
SCIENCE Vol. 277. 18, July 1997: pp.
364-367."

Perhaps Roger should contact the authors of this new paper (Gerald A.
Meehl, Claudia Tebaldi, Guy Walton, David Easterling, and Larry
McDaniel), and tell them that they have got it all wrong.

As you have boasted here many times about your legendary prowess in
statistics, the authors are much more likely to take criticism of
their work seriously if it comes from a grand master such as yourself.
Bwahahahaha......

On Nov 13, 1:13*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.
[garbage flushed]

You still have no proof of agw, you brain cancered ****tard.

On Nov 15, 9:47*am, JohnM wrote:
On Nov 14, 1:10*pm, Mr Right wrote:





On Nov 14, 6:13*am, Roger Coppock wrote:

48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.

9 and 3/4 years is a short period; I'd like to see
a longer interval.

However . . .
For those of you who lack statistical sophistication
and use extrema over short intervals to measure
climate trends, here it is.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Temperature records: More highs than lows
Nov 12, 12:38 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Record high temperatures are occurring more than
twice as often as record lows.

According to a new study, between Jan. 1, 2000 and Sept. 30, this year
the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420
record lows at various locations.

"Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather
in the United States," said Gerald Meehl, a researcher at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and the lead author of the study.

In addition to NCAR, the research was done by scientists at the
Weather Channel and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
It is being published in Geophysical Research Letters.

Have a look at this thread from Feb 2009, in which I presented data on
all time record highs for the 50 states of America (covering approx
125 years).

Record highs, record lows, and referenceshttp://groups.google.co.nz/group/alt.global-warming/browse_thread/thr...

It directly contradicts the recent study (Record High Temperatures Far
Outpace Record Lows Across U.S) referred to by Roger and others.

In the thread, Roger said "Greenhouse gas warming should not result in
increasing high temperature records. Greenhouse gases trap heat most
during winter nights. *See the Arrhenius paper and Easterling, David
R., et al. *“Maximum and Minimum Temperature * Trends for the Globe.”
SCIENCE Vol. 277. 18, July 1997: pp.
364-367."

Perhaps Roger should contact the authors of this new paper (Gerald A.
Meehl, Claudia Tebaldi, Guy Walton, David Easterling, and Larry
McDaniel), and tell them that they have got it all wrong.

As you have boasted here many times about your legendary prowess in
statistics, the authors are much more likely to take criticism of
their work seriously if it comes from a grand master such as yourself.
Bwahahahaha......- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good evasion of the topic under discussion. Does this qualify as Ad
Hominem?

On Nov 14, 11:16*pm, Mr Right wrote:
On Nov 15, 9:47*am, JohnM wrote:



On Nov 14, 1:10*pm, Mr Right wrote:

On Nov 14, 6:13*am, Roger Coppock wrote:

48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.

9 and 3/4 years is a short period; I'd like to see
a longer interval.

However . . .
For those of you who lack statistical sophistication
and use extrema over short intervals to measure
climate trends, here it is.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Temperature records: More highs than lows
Nov 12, 12:38 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Record high temperatures are occurring more than
twice as often as record lows.

According to a new study, between Jan. 1, 2000 and Sept. 30, this year
the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420
record lows at various locations.

"Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather
in the United States," said Gerald Meehl, a researcher at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and the lead author of the study.

In addition to NCAR, the research was done by scientists at the
Weather Channel and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration..
It is being published in Geophysical Research Letters.

Have a look at this thread from Feb 2009, in which I presented data on
all time record highs for the 50 states of America (covering approx
125 years).

Record highs, record lows, and referenceshttp://groups.google.co.nz/group/alt.global-warming/browse_thread/thr...

It directly contradicts the recent study (Record High Temperatures Far
Outpace Record Lows Across U.S) referred to by Roger and others.

In the thread, Roger said "Greenhouse gas warming should not result in
increasing high temperature records. Greenhouse gases trap heat most
during winter nights. *See the Arrhenius paper and Easterling, David
R., et al. *“Maximum and Minimum Temperature * Trends for the Globe.”
SCIENCE Vol. 277. 18, July 1997: pp.
364-367."

Perhaps Roger should contact the authors of this new paper (Gerald A.
Meehl, Claudia Tebaldi, Guy Walton, David Easterling, and Larry
McDaniel), and tell them that they have got it all wrong.

As you have boasted here many times about your legendary prowess in
statistics, the authors are much more likely to take criticism of
their work seriously if it comes from a grand master such as yourself.
Bwahahahaha......

Good evasion of the topic under discussion. Does this qualify as Ad
Hominem?

As your attention span seems to be limited to less than 24 hours, let
me refresh your miniscule mind about the "topic under discussion" -
introduced, I might add, by you as you can see:
"Perhaps Roger should contact the authors of this new paper (Gerald A.
Meehl, Claudia Tebaldi, Guy Walton, David Easterling, and Larry
McDaniel), and tell them that they have got it all wrong."

On Nov 13, 1:13*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.

9 and 3/4 years is a short period; I'd like to see
a longer interval.

However . . .
For those of you who lack statistical sophistication
and use extrema over short intervals to measure
climate trends, here it is.

Or, for those of you that are looking to use short-term, cherry-picked
data to support your view, here it is.

snip

"Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather
in the United States," said Gerald Meehl, a researcher at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and the lead author of the study.

What an obvious - and yet utterly meaningless - statement. Of
*course* climate change is making itself felt. It always has, and
always will. The climate is always changing...sometimes slowly,
sometimes very rapidly (yes, global temps have increased by similar
(or more) amounts in the past as they have been the past 100
years...long before mankind was "polluting" the atmosphere with CO2).
But it is never steady and unchanging. The climate is a dynamic,
chaotic system. As it changes, local weather is going to change as
well.

So thanks Gerald Meehl, for a completely uninteresting and pointless
statement.

On Nov 19, 3:27*am, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote:
JohnM wrote:
On Nov 14, 12:18*am, Zorro wrote:
On Nov 14, 6:13*am, Roger Coppock wrote:

48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.

9 and 3/4 years is a short period; I'd like to see
a longer interval.

However . . .
For those of you who lack statistical sophistication
and use extrema over short intervals to measure
climate trends, here it is.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Temperature records: More highs than lows
Nov 12, 12:38 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Record high temperatures are occurring more than
twice as often as record lows.

According to a new study, between Jan. 1, 2000 and Sept. 30, this year
the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420
record lows at various locations.

"Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather
in the United States," said Gerald Meehl, a researcher at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and the lead author of the study.

In addition to NCAR, the research was done by scientists at the
Weather Channel and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration..
It is being published in Geophysical Research Letters.

So Roger Coppock won't use extrema to prove climate trends, UNLESS
they support his bigoted view.

And JohnM is either too stupid to spot the scam, or is a part of the
scam.

This study has so many holes, you could use it as a sieve. I will just
mention a couple for now.

I have a better idea. Everyone read the report here and come to their own conclusions.

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/recor...-us-27194.html

No.

Of course you won't read it. It might upset your previously assumed
ideas and you don't want that to happen, do you?

On Nov 21, 4:58*am, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote:
JohnM wrote:
On Nov 19, 3:27*am, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote:
JohnM wrote:

snip redundant text

I have a better idea. Everyone read the report here and come to their own conclusions.

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/recor...-us-27194.html

No.

Of course you won't read it. It might upset your previously assumed
ideas and you don't want that to happen, do you?

Meanwhile my "previously assumed ideas" have been evidenced by CRU.

Good. That means you have finally realised the seriousness of the
current climate change.

On Nov 14, 12:31*pm, JohnM wrote:
On Nov 14, 12:18*am, Zorro wrote:





On Nov 14, 6:13*am, Roger Coppock wrote:

48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.

9 and 3/4 years is a short period; I'd like to see
a longer interval.

However . . .
For those of you who lack statistical sophistication
and use extrema over short intervals to measure
climate trends, here it is.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Temperature records: More highs than lows
Nov 12, 12:38 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Record high temperatures are occurring more than
twice as often as record lows.

According to a new study, between Jan. 1, 2000 and Sept. 30, this year
the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420
record lows at various locations.

"Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather
in the United States," said Gerald Meehl, a researcher at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and the lead author of the study.

In addition to NCAR, the research was done by scientists at the
Weather Channel and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
It is being published in Geophysical Research Letters.

So Roger Coppock won't use extrema to prove climate trends, UNLESS
they support his bigoted view.

And JohnM is either too stupid to spot the scam, or is a part of the
scam.

This study has so many holes, you could use it as a sieve. I will just
mention a couple for now.

I have a better idea. Everyone read the report here and come to their
own conclusions.

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/recor...ord-lows-a...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

JohnM,

Can you tell everyone how many record lows were expected for the
period January 1, 2000, to September 30, 2009.

So that people can compare the expected number of record lows to the
number that actually occurred.

I suspect that you, like most people, have no idea how many were
expected.

So why didn't the nice pseudo-scientists who did this study, tell us
how many record lows were expected?

They probably didn't want people to know the truth, because it
wouldn't suit their political views, or their scam.

Real scientists don't hide the data that doesn't suit them. They
present the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

You can tell a pseudo-scientist, or an alarmist, by what they don't
tell you, as much as by what they do tell you.

On Nov 21, 11:01*am, Zorro wrote:
On Nov 14, 12:31*pm, JohnM wrote:



On Nov 14, 12:18*am, Zorro wrote:

On Nov 14, 6:13*am, Roger Coppock wrote:

48 US states are a small fraction of the globe's
area; I'd like to see global data.

9 and 3/4 years is a short period; I'd like to see
a longer interval.

However . . .
For those of you who lack statistical sophistication
and use extrema over short intervals to measure
climate trends, here it is.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Temperature records: More highs than lows
Nov 12, 12:38 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Record high temperatures are occurring more than
twice as often as record lows.

According to a new study, between Jan. 1, 2000 and Sept. 30, this year
the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420
record lows at various locations.

"Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather
in the United States," said Gerald Meehl, a researcher at the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and the lead author of the study.

In addition to NCAR, the research was done by scientists at the
Weather Channel and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration..
It is being published in Geophysical Research Letters.

So Roger Coppock won't use extrema to prove climate trends, UNLESS
they support his bigoted view.

And JohnM is either too stupid to spot the scam, or is a part of the
scam.

This study has so many holes, you could use it as a sieve. I will just
mention a couple for now.

I have a better idea. Everyone read the report here and come to their
own conclusions.

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/recor...-lows-a...Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

JohnM,

Can you tell everyone how many record lows were expected for the
period January 1, 2000, to September 30, 2009.

So that people can compare the expected number of record lows to the
number that actually occurred.

I suspect that you, like most people, have no idea how many were
expected.

So why didn't the nice pseudo-scientists who did this study, tell us
how many record lows were expected?

They did.
"The study also found that the two-to-one ratio across the country as
a whole could be attributed more to a comparatively small number of
record lows than to a large number of record highs."

Don't hesitate to post further pseudo-questions, as these always give
me a good laugh.