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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

Eight Nobel-prize winning economists and scientists have joined more
than 2,000 others in signing a letter today that urges the Senate to
take swift action on climate change.

"The longer we wait, the harder and more costly it will be to limit
climate change and to adapt to those impacts that will not be
avoided," reads the letter, which is available on the Union of
Concerned Scientists' website here. "Many emissions reduction
strategies can be adopted today that would save consumers and industry
money while providing benefits for air quality, energy security,
public health, balance of trade, and employment."

The renewed effort to focus attention on the issue comes after a
difficult few months for advocates who want Congress to pass
legislation to curb greenhouse-gas emissions. [ . . . ]


Please see:

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...imate-change/1

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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Mar 11, 11:44Â*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
Eight Nobel-prize winning economists and scientists have joined more
than 2,000 others in signing a letter today that urges the Senate to
take swift action on climate change.

"The longer we wait, the harder and more costly it will be to limit
climate change and to adapt to those impacts that will not be
avoided," reads the letter, which is available on the Union of
Concerned Scientists' website here.


ø The Union of Concerned Scientists is another
fascist group also looking for more grants for
useless projects. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

ø The issue is really irrelevant.
Nobody can control the wind
Nobody can control the rain or snow
Nobody (collectively) can control climate.
Global temps are within natural variations
Oceans heating are a prelude to glaciation


 Get used to it!!

— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the skeptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural causes
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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Mar 12, 4:44*am, Roger Coppock wrote:
Eight Nobel-prize winning economists and scientists have joined more
than 2,000 others in signing a letter today that urges the Senate to
take swift action on climate change.

"The longer we wait, the harder and more costly it will be to limit
climate change and to adapt to those impacts that will not be
avoided," reads the letter, which is available on the Union of
Concerned Scientists' website here. "Many emissions reduction
strategies can be adopted today that would save consumers and industry
money while providing benefits for air quality, energy security,
public health, balance of trade, and employment."

The renewed effort to focus attention on the issue comes after a
difficult few months for advocates who want Congress to pass
legislation to curb greenhouse-gas emissions. *[ . . . ]

Please see:

http://content.usatoday.com/communit.../2010/03/scien...

The weather is proving them wrong
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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Mar 11, 9:26*pm, chemist wrote:

The weather is proving them wrong


But, global warming is a statement about long
trends. It's climate, not weather,
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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Mar 11, 9:57*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
On Mar 11, 9:26*pm, chemist wrote:

The weather is proving them wrong


But, global warming is a statement about long
trends. *It's climate, not weather,


Uh it's weather, not climate. Florida has had the coldest winter in on
record.


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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:44:31 -0800 (PST), Roger Coppock
wrote:

Eight Nobel-prize winning economists and scientists have joined more
than 2,000 others in signing a letter today that urges the Senate to
take swift action on climate change.

"The longer we wait, the harder and more costly it will be to limit
climate change and to adapt to those impacts that will not be
avoided," reads the letter, which is available on the Union of
Concerned Scientists' website here. "Many emissions reduction
strategies can be adopted today that would save consumers and industry
money while providing benefits for air quality, energy security,
public health, balance of trade, and employment."

The renewed effort to focus attention on the issue comes after a
difficult few months for advocates who want Congress to pass
legislation to curb greenhouse-gas emissions. [ . . . ]


Please see:

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...imate-change/1



The local eon company apparently finally realized
the policy of promoting reduced energy use was a
stupid business plan, now they want to sell out,
too many people are not able to pay utility bills.






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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Mar 12, 7:01*am, The_Slapdown wrote:
On Mar 11, 9:57*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:

On Mar 11, 9:26*pm, chemist wrote:


The weather is proving them wrong


But, global warming is a statement about long
trends. *It's climate, not weather,


Uh it's weather, not climate. Florida has had the coldest winter in on
record.


So shouldn't we be discussing weather change, not climate change?

In which case, is change in Florida weather a suitable archetype for
the changes in weather globally?
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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Mar 12, 10:59*am, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote:
"I M @ good guy" wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:44:31 -0800 (PST), Roger Coppock
wrote:


Eight Nobel-prize winning economists and scientists have joined more
than 2,000 others in signing a letter today that urges the Senate to
take swift action on climate change.


"The longer we wait, the harder and more costly it will be to limit
climate change and to adapt to those impacts that will not be
avoided," reads the letter, which is available on the Union of
Concerned Scientists' website here. "Many emissions reduction
strategies can be adopted today that would save consumers and industry
money while providing benefits for air quality, energy security,
public health, balance of trade, and employment."


The renewed effort to focus attention on the issue comes after a
difficult few months for advocates who want Congress to pass
legislation to curb greenhouse-gas emissions. *[ . . . ]


Please see:


http://content.usatoday.com/communit.../2010/03/scien....


* * * *The local eon company apparently finally realized
the policy of promoting reduced energy use was a
stupid business plan, now they want to sell out,
too many people are not able to pay utility bills.


Good point.

Those days on TV:

Resource costs for energy production is steady declining, power costs for
end-consumer is steady increasing.
There must be something going wrong.
Germans are upset about concealed cartelization of energy companies and urge
the government to act. But government tacitly acts as though nothing had
happened.
The problem is with Germans, they are so boring lethargic.
Otherwise street riots were the order of the day, just like now in Greece..

But things can always change.

The latest scandal is similar, regarding mineral oil groups.
They increased prices for gas and diesel last week of about never seen before
20 cents/liter, although crude oil prices are stable or declining since
months.


How else do you expect near-trillionaires to compete for the top spot
on Forbes' List? The only source for their mindless, numbers game is
inflation of fiat currencies - or take it from hoi polloi i.e. us.
They prefer the latter.

They take the same line like the energy producers.
And again, government sleeps...


Meanwhile AGW continues. The forecasts of increasing extreme weather
events under warming climate change are beginning to look like they
have some substance to them.
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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Mar 12, 5:17*am, JohnMoron
wrote:
[yawn]
Meanwhile AGW continues.


only in your mind, JMoron,
and the rest of the lunatic fringe...
agw is a hoax.
It does not exist.

The forecasts of increasing extreme weather
events under warming climate change are beginning to look like they
have some substance to them.


Yeah, hehe, that "lunatic fringe" thing, JMoron.
You got it bad.
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Default Scientists take another run at climate change.

On Mar 11, 11:44*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
Eight Nobel-prize winning economists and scientists have joined more
than 2,000 others in signing a letter today that urges the Senate to
take swift action on climate change.


Who cares?
AGW is dead.
Somebody needs to tell those eight parasites.

[garbage]



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