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Hello,
just looked at the moon here in llanelli west wales. seems to be an effect of a circle around the moon, long way out but a definite circle, is it cloud or what, what causes it, does it have a name ? Tried to google for an answer but no help, any ideas ? thanks Dennis |
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Dennis Moore wrote:
Hello, just looked at the moon here in llanelli west wales. seems to be an effect of a circle around the moon, long way out but a definite circle, is it cloud or what, what causes it, does it have a name ? Tried to google for an answer but no help, any ideas ? thanks Dennis It is a moon halo. I am only about 25 miles north of you and had just noticed it myself. I checked uk.sci.weather FAQs and was directed to the following excellent site:- http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/halo/circmoon.htm -- Howard Neil |
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![]() "Dennis Moore" wrote in message ... Hello, just looked at the moon here in llanelli west wales. seems to be an effect of a circle around the moon, long way out but a definite circle, is it cloud or what, what causes it, does it have a name ? Tried to google for an answer but no help, any ideas ? thanks Dennis What you've just witnessed is ' Dark Matter' Please collect your Nobel prize. |
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![]() Howard Neil wrote: http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/halo/circmoon.htm From that site: Halos are not purely daytime happenings. Look for them whenever a bright moon is veiled by thin cirrus cloud. A full or nearly full moon is best. 22º halos often encircle the moon. More rarely, because the moon is relatively dim, it is possible to see moondogs and other halos. Colours are faint or non existent because their light is barely strong enough to excite the colour sensors of our eyes. Much smaller coloured rings sometimes surround the moon. These are not a halo but a corona produced by the diffraction of light by the water droplets of clouds. And of course moonlight creates a rainbow although to the unaided eye it is usually a wan creature devoid of colour. ******* More on them he http://eo.ucar.edu/rainbows/ It's stratus causing it. If you could be sure the depth of the cloud was thickest over the region of sky traversed by the moon you WOULD be able to utilise it as weather sign. Cirro-stratus would be the high stuff alledged to give the rainbows but I have an idea that the lower stuff would be the ones giving the darker more significant signs. There is a good article on rainbows in the Open University schedule. It is a quite well packed, comprehensive view of the physics, so not an Horizon production -therefore well worth waiting up for: http://www.open2.net/learnsomething/index.html (Not that I could find the link I was after.) I would love to see some images of them with polarised filters and in different wavelengths. Does anyone here posses such hi-tech equiptment? If so, pull your bloody finger out! I'm not getting any younger. |
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"Howard Neil" wrote in message
... It is a moon halo. I am only about 25 miles north of you and had just noticed it myself. There was about 20 calls to the Met Office customer centre last night reporting the halo. Jon. |
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![]() "Dennis Moore" wrote in message ... Hello, just looked at the moon here in llanelli west wales. seems to be an effect of a circle around the moon, long way out but a definite circle, is it cloud or what, what causes it, does it have a name ? Tried to google for an answer but no help, any ideas ? I saw this beautiful lunar halo last night too, from NW Cumbria. Quite spectacular. The best and biggest I've ever seen, and the circle was quite perfect. You could just make out colours in the halo itself - I thought it was an illusion at the time but I've been assured that in good conditions (which we obviously had) colours can be seen. (just!) My camera isn't good enough so I didn't manage to capture it, and it was so big that I discovered it wouldn't even fit in the viewfinder - I'd have had to take several pix and splice them together. (Oh for a digital SLR with a wide-angle lens...) ally |
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![]() a l l y wrote: My camera isn't good enough so I didn't manage to capture it, and it was so big that I discovered it wouldn't even fit in the viewfinder - I'd have had to take several pix and splice them together. (Oh for a digital SLR with a wide-angle lens...) You can set up a scanner with a camera lense. Not exactly mobile but it should be good for astronomy and stuff like that. If you have a spare lense and a roll of duct tape the cost would be quite low -considering the results could be the very best you can get: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/01/19...nners_int.html |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:19:42 -0000, a l l y wrote:
I saw this beautiful lunar halo last night too, from NW Cumbria. Rats, why didn't you stick this up in ulc? -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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![]() "Weatherlawyer" wrote in message ups.com... a l l y wrote: My camera isn't good enough so I didn't manage to capture it, and it was so big that I discovered it wouldn't even fit in the viewfinder - I'd have had to take several pix and splice them together. (Oh for a digital SLR with a wide-angle lens...) You can set up a scanner with a camera lense. Not exactly mobile but it should be good for astronomy and stuff like that. If you have a spare lense and a roll of duct tape the cost would be quite low -considering the results could be the very best you can get: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/01/19...nners_int.html Gosh, what fun! Don't know about using it for astrophotography, but the possibilities for weirdness are endless! ally |
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![]() "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.com... On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:19:42 -0000, a l l y wrote: I saw this beautiful lunar halo last night too, from NW Cumbria. Rats, why didn't you stick this up in ulc? Sorry Dave - it had faded almost to nothing by the time I got back to my computer. I spent ages trying and failing to take photos of it. (Time to start saving up for a better camera, methinks.) I'd have missed it myself if the dogs hadn't been demanding a visit to the garden. ally |
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