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Not sure if this will be significant or not.

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html

But it's on a good day, i.e. I'm not at work and can enjoy if it does come.

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Not sure if this will be significant or not.

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html

But it's on a good day, i.e. I'm not at work and can enjoy if it does come.

Regards

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There's a bit of inconsistency in the warning on the Met Office website.
The text says

"the greatest risk of disruption will be focussed over high ground"

yet the map showing contours of probability of disruption does not
appear to take elevation into account. For example, it shows a higher
probability of disruption in Carlisle than over the Pennines.

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"Norman Lynagh" wrote

There's a bit of inconsistency in the warning on the Met Office website.
The text says

"the greatest risk of disruption will be focussed over high ground"

yet the map showing contours of probability of disruption does not appear
to take elevation into account. For example, it shows a higher probability
of disruption in Carlisle than over the Pennines.

Why 'focused'? It's arguable, I suppose, that a risk can be
'focused'. But surely not 'the greatest risk'. That's tautological.
And, because the emphasis is on the first syllable, it is
normally spelt with one 's'. Simple English helps make the
warning clear: "The greatest risk is over high ground." I continue
to argue that it is outside the expertise of weather forecasters to
assess risk of 'disruption', a word that is never defined in this
context.

Philip


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yet the map showing contours of probability of disruption does not appear
to take elevation into account. .

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The maps very rarely do. In the SW they almost invariably show the risk of
disruption due to snow the same for Mount's Bay as the top of Dartmoor. It's
hard to see how such a forecast could ever be regarded as accurate.

One thing I would really like to know, which I've asked before but never got
an answer, is how the MetO determine the accuracy of all these % forecasts,
especially when they cover such diverse areas.

Graham


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Not sure if this will be significant or not.

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html


Don't think most of us need to worry!
Helen Young yesterday said they were now very confident of a significant
snow event from the Midlands North but I think it's only the hills of
the Scotland and the far North I expect any significant snow.
They get all excited when they see any white stuff on the horizon and
move into over hype!
I suppose these BBC weather people have had to wait so long to see a
severe widespread snowstorm over the UK, they even get excited when a
minor event like this comes along!

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Not sure if this will be significant or not.

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html


Don't think most of us need to worry!
Helen Young yesterday

^^^^^^^

.... really?

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Not sure if this will be significant or not.

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html


Don't think most of us need to worry!
Helen Young yesterday said they were now very confident of a
significant snow event from the Midlands North but I think it's only
the hills of the Scotland and the far North I expect any significant
snow.
They get all excited when they see any white stuff on the horizon and
move into over hype!
I suppose these BBC weather people have had to wait so long to see a
severe widespread snowstorm over the UK, they even get excited when a
minor event like this comes along!



A man I know, who works in local government, attended a Plain English
course. Wonder if presenters might benefit from this. The redundant
'event' after 'snowfall' and 'time' after 'night' yesterday illustrate
the standard now. It would help if the presentation didn't distract from
the content.

Who is the calmest and clearest? Excluding the radio presenters, of
course.

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Graham wrote:


Not sure if this will be significant or not.

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html


Don't think most of us need to worry!
Helen Young yesterday said they were now very confident of a significant
snow event from the Midlands North but I think it's only the hills of
the Scotland and the far North I expect any significant snow.
They get all excited when they see any white stuff on the horizon and
move into over hype!
I suppose these BBC weather people have had to wait so long to see a
severe widespread snowstorm over the UK, they even get excited when a
minor event like this comes along!


Do you have a hat you could chew on?

Graham
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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
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Why 'focused'? It's arguable, I suppose, that a risk can be
'focused'. But surely not 'the greatest risk'. That's tautological.
And, because the emphasis is on the first syllable, it is
normally spelt with one 's'. Simple English helps make the
warning clear: "The greatest risk is over high ground." I continue
to argue that it is outside the expertise of weather forecasters to
assess risk of 'disruption', a word that is never defined in this
context.


Especially if we assume that 'disruption' refers to traffic and
the provision of services such as schools, the level of disruption
expected from this event must be far lower than had the exact
same weather situation been expected 24hrs later.

Col
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"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
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The maps very rarely do. In the SW they almost invariably show the risk of
disruption due to snow the same for Mount's Bay as the top of Dartmoor. It's
hard to see how such a forecast could ever be regarded as accurate.


I don't see how they could, except in a very general way such as highlighting
large areas of high ground such as central Wales or the Scottish Highlands.
Otherwise they would end up looking like very complicated relief maps.

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