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Not sure if this will be significant or not.
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html But it's on a good day, i.e. I'm not at work and can enjoy if it does come. Regards Martyn www.calvertoncam.co.uk/weather |
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In message , Nytram
writes Not sure if this will be significant or not. http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html But it's on a good day, i.e. I'm not at work and can enjoy if it does come. Regards Martyn www.calvertoncam.co.uk/weather There's a bit of inconsistency in the warning on the Met Office website. The text says "the greatest risk of disruption will be focussed over high ground" yet the map showing contours of probability of disruption does not appear to take elevation into account. For example, it shows a higher probability of disruption in Carlisle than over the Pennines. Norman. (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l. England |
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![]() "Norman Lynagh" wrote There's a bit of inconsistency in the warning on the Met Office website. The text says "the greatest risk of disruption will be focussed over high ground" yet the map showing contours of probability of disruption does not appear to take elevation into account. For example, it shows a higher probability of disruption in Carlisle than over the Pennines. Why 'focused'? It's arguable, I suppose, that a risk can be 'focused'. But surely not 'the greatest risk'. That's tautological. And, because the emphasis is on the first syllable, it is normally spelt with one 's'. Simple English helps make the warning clear: "The greatest risk is over high ground." I continue to argue that it is outside the expertise of weather forecasters to assess risk of 'disruption', a word that is never defined in this context. Philip |
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"Norman Lynagh" wrote in
message ... yet the map showing contours of probability of disruption does not appear to take elevation into account. . Norman. (delete "thisbit" twice to e-mail) The maps very rarely do. In the SW they almost invariably show the risk of disruption due to snow the same for Mount's Bay as the top of Dartmoor. It's hard to see how such a forecast could ever be regarded as accurate. One thing I would really like to know, which I've asked before but never got an answer, is how the MetO determine the accuracy of all these % forecasts, especially when they cover such diverse areas. Graham |
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![]() Not sure if this will be significant or not. http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html Don't think most of us need to worry! Helen Young yesterday said they were now very confident of a significant snow event from the Midlands North but I think it's only the hills of the Scotland and the far North I expect any significant snow. They get all excited when they see any white stuff on the horizon and move into over hype! I suppose these BBC weather people have had to wait so long to see a severe widespread snowstorm over the UK, they even get excited when a minor event like this comes along! -- Graham |
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![]() "Graham" wrote in message ... Not sure if this will be significant or not. http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html Don't think most of us need to worry! Helen Young yesterday ^^^^^^^ .... really? Martin. -- FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm and http://booty.org.uk/booty.weather/metindex.htm |
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In message , Graham
writes Not sure if this will be significant or not. http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html Don't think most of us need to worry! Helen Young yesterday said they were now very confident of a significant snow event from the Midlands North but I think it's only the hills of the Scotland and the far North I expect any significant snow. They get all excited when they see any white stuff on the horizon and move into over hype! I suppose these BBC weather people have had to wait so long to see a severe widespread snowstorm over the UK, they even get excited when a minor event like this comes along! A man I know, who works in local government, attended a Plain English course. Wonder if presenters might benefit from this. The redundant 'event' after 'snowfall' and 'time' after 'night' yesterday illustrate the standard now. It would help if the presentation didn't distract from the content. Who is the calmest and clearest? Excluding the radio presenters, of course. -- Peter Thomas |
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Graham wrote:
Not sure if this will be significant or not. http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather.../warnings.html Don't think most of us need to worry! Helen Young yesterday said they were now very confident of a significant snow event from the Midlands North but I think it's only the hills of the Scotland and the far North I expect any significant snow. They get all excited when they see any white stuff on the horizon and move into over hype! I suppose these BBC weather people have had to wait so long to see a severe widespread snowstorm over the UK, they even get excited when a minor event like this comes along! Do you have a hat you could chew on? Graham |
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![]() "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message ... Why 'focused'? It's arguable, I suppose, that a risk can be 'focused'. But surely not 'the greatest risk'. That's tautological. And, because the emphasis is on the first syllable, it is normally spelt with one 's'. Simple English helps make the warning clear: "The greatest risk is over high ground." I continue to argue that it is outside the expertise of weather forecasters to assess risk of 'disruption', a word that is never defined in this context. Especially if we assume that 'disruption' refers to traffic and the provision of services such as schools, the level of disruption expected from this event must be far lower than had the exact same weather situation been expected 24hrs later. Col -- Bolton, Lancashire. 160m asl. |
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![]() "Graham Easterling" wrote in message ... The maps very rarely do. In the SW they almost invariably show the risk of disruption due to snow the same for Mount's Bay as the top of Dartmoor. It's hard to see how such a forecast could ever be regarded as accurate. I don't see how they could, except in a very general way such as highlighting large areas of high ground such as central Wales or the Scottish Highlands. Otherwise they would end up looking like very complicated relief maps. Col -- Bolton, Lancashire. 160m asl. |
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