John Hall wrote:

The problem is at the Clari end. They don't make their groups available
to the Net at large, though posts crossposted to other groups may "leak"
out.

They do appear on some public newsfeeds. My ISP (Vispa) uses eurofeeds
(http://eurofeeds.com) for it's news service and that has a lot (937?)
of clari. groups.

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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:13:16 +0000, John Hall
wrote:

In article ,
Jim Webster writes:
[Re NIN]
they don't carry the Clari net groups that I found useful, and I assumed it
was because so many of these are in HTML or binary (I only need the text
ones) so it might be a knock on effect from that policy
I'm going to try to contact them to see if they will take them, after all
they say they welcome this sort of suggestion

The problem is at the Clari end. They don't make their groups available
to the Net at large, though posts crossposted to other groups may "leak"
out.

My ISP (Demon) carry the Clari groups but NIN don't so it can't be
entirely a Clari problem.

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EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
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"John Hall" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jim Webster writes:
[Re NIN]
they don't carry the Clari net groups that I found useful, and I assumed
it
was because so many of these are in HTML or binary (I only need the text
ones) so it might be a knock on effect from that policy
I'm going to try to contact them to see if they will take them, after all
they say they welcome this sort of suggestion

The problem is at the Clari end. They don't make their groups available
to the Net at large, though posts crossposted to other groups may "leak"
out.
--

Wanadoo (or rather Freeserve) used to carry them all, and service was pretty
good this last year, although there were spells a couple of years back when
they stopped posting to them

Jim Webster

Graham Easterling wrote:
Robin Nicholson wrote:
Frustration has set in here in Dorset! Firstly gave my back a fearful wrench
on Saturday, so, feeling very sorry for myself, come Sunday I brought up my
Freeagent icon and pinged for new messages. Winsock error or something.
Anyway, from that day till now I am getting the same error message and
wondering what the heck to do next. I have accessed the group through www.
ureader.co.uk which is not the usual layout. To my knowledge I have not
altered any settings: a friend thinks it is a problem at Wanadoo's end. Any
thoughts welcome!
Robin

I had the same problem as I'm with Wanadoo (have been since the early
Freeserve days).

Like Jack. I suggest you use
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.sci.weather/

It's fine, once you get used to the layout, and Googles going to stay
around for a bit!

A couple of Google groups tips:

1. Click the "View as Tree" link if you like the threaded view - almost
essential if a thread gets large and you need to see who is replying to
whom.

2. If replying to a post don't click the "Reply" link at the bottom the
post you are replying to, click "Options" at the top and then click the
"Reply" in the list of options - this allows you selectively quote the
points you are responding to.

Martin


Graham
Penzance

Jim Webster wrote:

Wanadoo (or rather Freeserve) used to carry them all, and service was pretty
good this last year, although there were spells a couple of years back when
they stopped posting to them

Those outages might have been caused by viruses. There were some major
problems back then and to this day the archives have never been
repaired. How can they be.

Google has speeded up its posting and it is now tip top. Their biggest
problem is on sites that attract a lot of spam from nazis and US
republicans. But I think that the Wanadoo site must be having problems
if they have not given notice that they were about to drop a service.

They were offering a fantastic package recently so perhaps they are
having problems keeping the ISP de astra flying. They might even be
under concerted attack again but I'd imagine their security is a little
less credulous that in times past.

In article ,
Ian Bartholomew writes:
John Hall wrote:

The problem is at the Clari end. They don't make their groups available
to the Net at large, though posts crossposted to other groups may "leak"
out.

They do appear on some public newsfeeds. My ISP (Vispa) uses eurofeeds
(http://eurofeeds.com) for it's news service and that has a lot (937?)
of clari. groups.

It may "have" the groups, but do the posts to those groups - at least
those by Clari customers using their news server - actually appear?
--
John Hall
"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
sit next to me."
Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

In article ,
writes:
My ISP (Demon) carry the Clari groups but NIN don't so it can't be
entirely a Clari problem.

See my response to Ian. I think the groups are there, but not the posts
(at least those by people using Clari's own news server).
--
John Hall
"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
sit next to me."
Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

John Hall wrote:

It may "have" the groups, but do the posts to those groups - at least
those by Clari customers using their news server - actually appear?

OK, I just looked in clari.news.issues.misc (chosen at random). The
last post of 18 was at 01:10 this morning (so I can see posts) and the
message id was as follows (which I assume means it was posted via a
clari.net server by a clari.net customer)



Looks like a complete feed to me.

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In article ,
Ian Bartholomew writes:
John Hall wrote:

It may "have" the groups, but do the posts to those groups - at least
those by Clari customers using their news server - actually appear?

OK, I just looked in clari.news.issues.misc (chosen at random). The
last post of 18 was at 01:10 this morning (so I can see posts) and the
message id was as follows (which I assume means it was posted via a
clari.net server by a clari.net customer)



Certainly a clari.net customer, and one would therefore assume that they
would be using clari.net's own news server, though it's not completely
guaranteed (I'm a Demon customer, but nevertheless use NIN, for
instance). If you are able to see the Path header, that provides a trace
of the machines that the article passed through from the originator to
you, with the final machine first in the list and the initial machine
last in the list (ie the list is back to front).

Looks like a complete feed to me.

Yes, that's probable. Perhaps clari.net have changed their policy since
I saw the issue discussed in demon.service a few years ago.
--
John Hall
"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
sit next to me."
Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

John Hall wrote:

Certainly a clari.net customer, and one would therefore assume that they
would be using clari.net's own news server, though it's not completely
guaranteed (I'm a Demon customer, but nevertheless use NIN, for
instance). If you are able to see the Path header, that provides a trace
of the machines that the article passed through from the originator to
you, with the final machine first in the list and the initial machine
last in the list (ie the list is back to front).

path was ...

drt1!artnm!t1!feeder.news-service.com!feeder1.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl! nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.28.1 86.75.MISMATCH!hwmnpeer01.lga!hw-filter.phx!hwmnpeer01.phx!hwmedia!news.highwinds-media.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easy news!gonzo.clari.net!clarinews

Yes, that's probable. Perhaps clari.net have changed their policy since
I saw the issue discussed in demon.service a few years ago.

We may both be right :-) I've had a look in half a dozen groups and all
I can find is AP and UP press releases - nothing from "normal"
customers. Perhaps they let the press release posts through and stop
all others?

If you can suggest a group that is likely to have "normal" chat in it
I'll have a look.

--
Ian

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