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This will undoubtedly be a silly question, so I apologise in advance,
but: I've heard that whatever weather the US East Coast gets, we get not long after (with variations of 'a few days' to 'a couple of weeks'). Is there any truth in this or, as I suspect, is it total nonsense? Jim -- Find me at http://www.ursaminorbeta.co.uk AIM/iChatAV: JCAndrew2 "We deal in the moral equivalent of black holes, where the normal laws of right and wrong break down; beyond those metaphysical event horizons there exist ... special circumstances" - Use Of Weapons |
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![]() "Jim" wrote in message ... This will undoubtedly be a silly question, so I apologise in advance, but: I've heard that whatever weather the US East Coast gets, we get not long after (with variations of 'a few days' to 'a couple of weeks'). Is there any truth in this or, as I suspect, is it total nonsense? Jim personal opinion is that its a load of moonshine, but no doubt I'm wrong again! :-) -- Rob Overfield Hull http://www.astrosport02.karoo.net/YorkshireWeather/ |
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The trace of truth is in concept of "storm tracks"
(see ie. http://www.converium.com/229.asp ) which says that depending on phase of NAO, the extratropical cyclones (known as low pressures here) follow in average a route which goes more or less from New England to Old England. The nonsense part dominates for several factors - not all the low pressures follow this track - if two low centres sttart from USA, one hits Scotland anothr one France, the resulting weather in UK is different, and the average of these still comes to the arrow in the map - the low pressures develop and enhance during the ocean crossing - ... Summary: there is a connection, it is not the only factor determining UK weather and not even the strongest one, and it is not as simple as "copy a weather report, replace timing". Elena Jim wrote: This will undoubtedly be a silly question, so I apologise in advance, but: I've heard that whatever weather the US East Coast gets, we get not long after (with variations of 'a few days' to 'a couple of weeks'). Is there any truth in this or, as I suspect, is it total nonsense? Jim |
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Junk, made up my the Media ;=) .
--------------------------------------------------------------- "Jim" wrote in message ... This will undoubtedly be a silly question, so I apologise in advance, but: I've heard that whatever weather the US East Coast gets, we get not long after (with variations of 'a few days' to 'a couple of weeks'). Is there any truth in this or, as I suspect, is it total nonsense? Jim -- Find me at http://www.ursaminorbeta.co.uk AIM/iChatAV: JCAndrew2 "We deal in the moral equivalent of black holes, where the normal laws of right and wrong break down; beyond those metaphysical event horizons there exist ... special circumstances" - Use Of Weapons |
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Rob Overfield wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... This will undoubtedly be a silly question, so I apologise in advance, but: I've heard that whatever weather the US East Coast gets, we get not long after (with variations of 'a few days' to 'a couple of weeks'). Is there any truth in this or, as I suspect, is it total nonsense? Jim personal opinion is that its a load of moonshine, but no doubt I'm wrong again! :-) -- Then I will be wrong with you. If *some weather* is travelling eastwards and arrives at the east coast of america, then it got there overland. If it continues travelling until it gets to the uk, it got there over the ocean. I think that would make it a different type of weather ... I hope ... (-: -- Gianna Stefani www.buchan-meteo.org.uk |
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Elena Saltikoff wrote:
The trace of truth is in concept of "storm tracks" (see ie. http://www.converium.com/229.asp ) which says that depending on phase of NAO, the extratropical cyclones er...NAO? North Atlantic Ocean? Sorry, I'm new to all this.... snip Summary: there is a connection, it is not the only factor determining UK weather and not even the strongest one, and it is not as simple as "copy a weather report, replace timing". So, just because they're having a wee bit of snow now doesn't mean we will in, say, a week's time then? Jim -- Find me at http://www.ursaminorbeta.co.uk AIM/iChatAV: JCAndrew2 "We deal in the moral equivalent of black holes, where the normal laws of right and wrong break down; beyond those metaphysical event horizons there exist ... special circumstances" - Use Of Weapons |
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There is some correlation between the east coast of the IS and us, but
indirectly. As the jet meanders around the northern hemisphere so does the cold and warm plunges of weather type. Depending on the speed of the these meanders depends on how long after / before we may have a similar weather type. Of course 'Joe Muppethead' from the media will say it's coming across the Atlantic, but then we all know what they know "diddly squat" So, don't be surprised to see a cold snap for the uk in 2 to 3 weeks. If I'm right, it may just be coincidence, if I'm wrong, well that won't be the first time. Keith (Southend) *********************** Weather Home & Abroad http://www.southendweather.net On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:43:25 -0000, "danny \(west kent\)" wrote: Junk, made up my the Media ;=) . --------------------------------------------------------------- "Jim" wrote in message m... This will undoubtedly be a silly question, so I apologise in advance, but: I've heard that whatever weather the US East Coast gets, we get not long after (with variations of 'a few days' to 'a couple of weeks'). Is there any truth in this or, as I suspect, is it total nonsense? Jim -- Find me at http://www.ursaminorbeta.co.uk AIM/iChatAV: JCAndrew2 "We deal in the moral equivalent of black holes, where the normal laws of right and wrong break down; beyond those metaphysical event horizons there exist ... special circumstances" - Use Of Weapons |
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Keith (Southend) wrote:
There is some correlation between the east coast of the IS and us, but indirectly. As the jet meanders around the northern hemisphere so does the cold and warm plunges of weather type. Depending on the speed of the these meanders depends on how long after / before we may have a similar weather type. Of course 'Joe Muppethead' from the media will say it's coming across the Atlantic, but then we all know what they know "diddly squat" So, don't be surprised to see a cold snap for the uk in 2 to 3 weeks. If I'm right, it may just be coincidence, if I'm wrong, well that won't be the first time. When I was young, the figure for the old wives' tale was 2-3 days. This can happen in the situation where the snow is caused by a deepening depression running NE then N over the Eastern Seaboard. This throws up a warm ridge in the middle of the Atlantic and, subsequently, to the East of this ridge, cold air moves south over the UK. Graham |
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In article , Scottish Quilter wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:01:09 +0000, (Jim) wrote: So, just because they're having a wee bit of snow now doesn't mean we will in, say, a week's time then? A wee bit of snow??? Our daughter lives on Cape Cod and as from last night when I spoke to her she had 3 feet of snow in her garden--- she emailed some photos which arrived this morning! It's possible that I was understating the facts slightly :-) Jim -- Find me at http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk "Brace yourself, this might make your eyes water." |
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