I may have missed comments about this but have there been instances of
the above?

On another newsgroup (waterways) someone has said that this summer,
reference rainfall, has not been as dire as 1976
Cheers
Robin

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Robin Nicholson writes:
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On another newsgroup (waterways) someone has said that this summer,
reference rainfall, has not been as dire as 1976

The thing about 1976 is that rainfall was below normal over much of the
country all the way from spring, 1975 up to August, 1976, a period of
something like 16 months IIRC..
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

There are some people lacking in intelligence around at the moment

"oh what a fantastic spell of weather"
"oh you have no reason to get depressed"

Drag 'em around the country for a couple days, so they can see the
parched landscape, brown grass, and forest fires

Endless sleepless nights of sweating

A direct link of police reporting violent crimes rise with heatwaves
(As the temperatures rise, so do tempers, and tolerances drop)

Long holidays.... people with too much time on their hands = recipe for
disaster
People leaving all doors and windows wide open all day & night, whilst
they play their 'music' at full bass-thumping volume

Water shortage problems, as the ground continues to dry

No real thunder breakdowns despite the heat

The Spanish have their Seistas.
Wheras people in the Uk, are expected to melt in their non-Air
Conditioned homes

October can't roll around fast enough !!

I say October, because in recent years, September has been very warm,
and is really a summer month, with a bit less daylight

"BlueLightning" wrote in message
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There are some people lacking in intelligence around at the moment

It's nothing to do with 'intelligence'. It's what kind of weather you enjoy.

"oh what a fantastic spell of weather"

Oh but it a fantastic spell of weather, especially up here where it is *way*
beyond
the normal conditions expected here for summer. Day after day in the mid to
high
20's. That maybe relitively common down south but not here.

"oh you have no reason to get depressed"

Far better than the rain and cloud that usualy make up our summers.

Drag 'em around the country for a couple days, so they can see the
parched landscape, brown grass, and forest fires

The grass will recover. It's made that way.

Endless sleepless nights of sweating

That's never bothered me although I conceed it might be a problem for some.
Sweaty days at work in a south facing building are more problematic but I
Wouldn't swap it in a million years for wind and rain.

A direct link of police reporting violent crimes rise with heatwaves
(As the temperatures rise, so do tempers, and tolerances drop)

Long holidays.... people with too much time on their hands = recipe for
disaster
People leaving all doors and windows wide open all day & night, whilst
they play their 'music' at full bass-thumping volume

Water shortage problems, as the ground continues to dry

People in those parts of the country with shortages should have to be
prepared to use less water or pay more for their supply.

Col

Col wrote:

Oh but it a fantastic spell of weather, especially up here where it is *way*
beyond
the normal conditions expected here for summer. Day after day in the mid to
high
20's. That maybe relitively common down south but not here.

Hi, Col,

I'm with you all the way on this one. Mean max 24.0C (+5.0C) Mean min
10.5C(+0.8C) Mean screen 17.3C(+2.9C). Probably the warmest of any
month since reliable recording began in this area in 1847 at Durham.
Sunshine 245 hours so far (this evening, 24th), 10.2hr/day. Sunniest
month around here was June 1940 with 297hr, 9.9hr/day. To reach 300
hours in our neck of the woods would therefore be unprecedented!
Rainfall 9mm, one of the driest months on record, but one of those
threatened storms could change that in a few minutes.
I'm loving it but so many in the group seem to be struggling with the
heat. Ah well, you can't please all of the people all of the time. Some
people actually like rain!

Best wishes from the rain-shadow
Ken
Copley, 253metres asl, nr Barnard Castle, County Durham
http://copley.mysite.orange.co.uk

On 24 Jul 2006 13:20:42 -0700, "Ken Cook"
wrote:

.. Some
people actually like rain!

I think I said to my youngest the other day that I would cheerfully
stand in the rain when it finally arrives. I think I did just that in
1976 and boy, did it rain that autumn.

But I am still hoping that someone might conjure up a few figures for
Bad Augusts Good Julys ref the thread head so I have just tweaked the
subject to hopefully get a response!

R

"Robin Nicholson" wrote
But I am still hoping that someone might conjure up a few figures for
Bad Augusts Good Julys ref the thread head so I have just tweaked the
subject to hopefully get a response!

Bah! I'm busy. You'll have to wait.

P

Ken Cook a écrit :
I'm with you all the way on this one. Mean max 24.0C (+5.0C) Mean min
10.5C(+0.8C) Mean screen 17.3C(+2.9C).

In Brussels so far this July 20 days have exceeded 25°C including 6
over 30°C. Lowest maximum so far has been 23.0°C.

Only 3 days out of 24 have had overnight minima below 15°C.

Remarkable - even for a "continental" site.

Colin Youngs
Brussels

Ken Cook wrote:
Col wrote:

Oh but it a fantastic spell of weather, especially up here where it
is *way* beyond
the normal conditions expected here for summer. Day after day in the
mid to high
20's. That maybe relitively common down south but not here.

Hi, Col,

I'm with you all the way on this one. Mean max 24.0C (+5.0C) Mean min
10.5C(+0.8C) Mean screen 17.3C(+2.9C). Probably the warmest of any
month since reliable recording began in this area in 1847 at Durham.
Sunshine 245 hours so far (this evening, 24th), 10.2hr/day. Sunniest
month around here was June 1940 with 297hr, 9.9hr/day. To reach 300
hours in our neck of the woods would therefore be unprecedented!
Rainfall 9mm, one of the driest months on record, but one of those
threatened storms could change that in a few minutes.
I'm loving it but so many in the group seem to be struggling with the
heat. Ah well, you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Some people actually like rain!

Come on Ken, you don't GET heat up there at Copley. We can discuss the
point on Sat if you going to Buxton...
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://talkingtoomuchagain.blogspot.com

"Robin Nicholson" wrote:

But I am still hoping that someone might conjure up a few figures for
Bad Augusts Good Julys ref the thread head so I have just tweaked the
subject to hopefully get a response!

The conventional view that warm, dry, sunny Julys tend to be followed
by warm, dry, sunny Augusts is certainly supported by events, at least
during the last 60 years. Sometimes the summer culminates in a
spectacularly hot and sunny August, as in 1947 or 1995. Sometimes
July is the peak of the season and August, though still warm and dry,
is slightly less newsworthy, as in 1983 or 1989.

I don't want to use "good" and "poor", since many here (including me)
find such value judgments diametrically opposed to their own
preferences, so let's call them +-+ months (temp above average, rain
below, sun above).

Without resorting to statistics, within that 60-year period I would
say that a more-or-less +-+ July was followed by a more-or-less
+-+ August in 1947, 49, 55, 59, 75, 76, 83, 84, 89, 90, 95, 97,
and 03. The only exceptions were 94 and 99, but neither of those
Augusts was thoroughly -+-.

August 1994 began with a week of warm, occasionally thundery
weather, and the rest of the month was fairly average with
occasional warm days. August 1999 began with three very hot
days, it then was exceptionally wet for just over a week (remember
the cloudy solar eclipse?), then a fortnight of dry but often rather
cool weather. The first half of September 1999 was uncommonly
hot.

July 1994 had been particularly strange synoptically,
ending up with the biggest southerly component over the UK of
any July in the last 133 years. This month will also have a
substantial southerly component without challenging 1994.

Even before the mid-1940s, +-+ Julys were often followed by
+-+ Augusts, though probably not as frequently as since.

One of the biggest switches from +-+ July to -+- August in
the entire record occurred in 1941, so I've dug out the relevant
Monthly Weather Reports. The whole year was odd ... a cold
and snowy winter giving way to an exceptionally cold and
cloudy spring. June was anticyclonic, cool for two weeks
then very warm.

July's warmth was largely due to a long hot spell from 1st-12th
with isolated warm days thereafter. Some parts of the UK
had a rather wet month, and there was a shortage of sunshine
in the northern half of the country. Mean sea-level pressure
was actually slightly below normal over most of the British
Isles. August was a markedly cyclonic/westerly month, with
a deep (for the season) low pressure area often found in the
northern North Sea or over southern Scandinavia. Eleven
major depressions crossed the British Isles during the course
of the month. The temperature, which had reached 34-35°C
during two separate spells in the first half of the summer,
failed to pass 22°C over most of the UK after 4th August.
September was simply perfect ... very anticyclonic, very
dry and pleasantly warm with only 1 or 2 hot days ... many
stations reported practically the same mean temperature for
both Aug and Sept.

FWIW, October was anticyclonic in the south, November
was a southerly month, and December anticyclonic/westerly.

Philip