Don't know what's happened to the suggestions of fine, warm weather
later in the week, it now doesn't seem to be arriving until Sunday
though the Met Office (if maybe not the GFS) is suggesting one good day
this week, on Thursday.

There seems to be a significant risk that this month will be all of
cloudier, cooler and wetter than average, particularly the further
north and east you go. I'm wondering if the lack of continuity in the
fine spell is linked to differences in the upper air pattern in July,
the "good" (subjective I know) weather this year being more down to a
persistent southerly setup than an anticyclonic one.... and whether all
those years where the fine weather continued throughout August
(1947/49/55/59/75/76/83/84/89/90/95) had a stronger upper high, which
perpetuated the fine spell for a longer period.

Nick

wrote:
Don't know what's happened to the suggestions of fine, warm weather
later in the week, it now doesn't seem to be arriving until Sunday
though the Met Office (if maybe not the GFS) is suggesting one good day
this week, on Thursday.

Not sure what the answer is to the question about this disappointing
August Nick, but up here in Coventry, we have just had our coolest week
33 since 1999, the wettest since 1997 and the dullest since 1980!

As I am currently painting the outside of my house, I would like summer
to return soon - when I started this job it was still too hot to work
mid-afternoon - today I had to come inside by 5-30pm because it was too
cold outside in shorts!!!

Steve Jackson
Bablake Weather Station
Coventry UK
www.bablakeweather.co.uk

Steve J, BWS wrote:

wrote:
Don't know what's happened to the suggestions of fine, warm weather
later in the week, it now doesn't seem to be arriving until Sunday
though the Met Office (if maybe not the GFS) is suggesting one good day
this week, on Thursday.

Not sure what the answer is to the question about this disappointing
August Nick, but up here in Coventry, we have just had our coolest week
33 since 1999, the wettest since 1997 and the dullest since 1980!


Certainly nothing like July, but August certainly hasn't been a bad
month here.

We've had some very pleasant warm sunshine the last few days,
especially right on the south coast (and the odd rather intense
thunderstorm last Thurs/Friday!). Cloud broke noon today to give a
pleasant afternoon, and there was actually some reasonable surf on the
south coast where it wasn't chopped up. The sea felt lovely at 18C. I
was joined by a seal for the 2nd time this year.

Statistically we've had 94% of the normal total August rainfall so far,
which is higher than most places in the SW due to a couple of recent
deluges. Temperatures (1st-20th) +0.9C compared to the LTA for the
whole of August. Looking at Philip's web pages the SW has done better
than the rest of the UK as far as temperature deviation from the LTA is
concerned. Penzance has probably benefitted from the high SSTs, which
have been around 18C off west Cornwall for several weeks now.

Graham
Penzance

"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
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We've had some very pleasant warm sunshine the last few days,
especially right on the south coast (and the odd rather intense
thunderstorm last Thurs/Friday!). Cloud broke noon today to give a
pleasant afternoon, and there was actually some reasonable surf on the
south coast where it wasn't chopped up. The sea felt lovely at 18C. I
was joined by a seal for the 2nd time this year.

I was on holiday near Penzance during the first two weeks in August and it
was very pleasant indeed, if not a little too breezy on one or two days.
However, I think those big banner headlines that appeared in the newspapers
(well, some of them) about August being even hotter that July, are begining
to look a little less likely now as the evenings begin to draw in rapidly.

By the way, what is the general feeling about the official start of autumn?
Some people proclaim it to be the beginning of September although I like to
think it's September 21st (but then again, I hate to see the back of
'summer' and so I'm in no rush to welcome what our chums across the pond
refer to as 'the fall').

A bit off topic, I know, but I went to a local plant stockist at the weekend
looking for some late summer plants for a little colour, only to find shrubs
and... wait for it... some Christmas arrangements!

Hoping for at least one last BBQ... David Allan.

Felly sgrifennodd David Allan :
By the way, what is the general feeling about the official start of autumn?

Heh now you've started us off again!

It's the 1st August by the Celtic calendar, and since I'm in Wales, that's
what I'll stick to. Certainly felt like it this year.

Adrian

--
Adrian Shaw ais@
Adran Cyfrifiadureg, Prifysgol Cymru, aber.
Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Cymru ac.
http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/weather/ uk

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Don't know what's happened to the suggestions of fine, warm weather
later in the week, it now doesn't seem to be arriving until Sunday
though the Met Office (if maybe not the GFS) is suggesting one good day
this week, on Thursday.

There seems to be a significant risk that this month will be all of
cloudier, cooler and wetter than average, particularly the further
north and east you go. I'm wondering if the lack of continuity in the
fine spell is linked to differences in the upper air pattern in July,
the "good" (subjective I know) weather this year being more down to a
persistent southerly setup than an anticyclonic one.... and whether all
those years where the fine weather continued throughout August
(1947/49/55/59/75/76/83/84/89/90/95) had a stronger upper high, which
perpetuated the fine spell for a longer period.

Nick


I would think that the CET would be near or slightly above average so far
this month. Although it has been much cooler than July it hasn't been all
that cool really. I would guess that people have adapted somewhat to the hot
temperatures in July and so with the drop in temperature in August people
suddenly think it has gone cold. I would expect the rainfall to be near
average as well, as although there have been a fair few days with rain this
month it seems to have been of the showery variety rather than the steady
prolonged frontal variety (down here at least).

Adam

Not sure what the answer is to the question about this disappointing
August Nick, but up here in Coventry, we have just had our coolest week
33 since 1999, the wettest since 1997 and the dullest since 1980!

As I am currently painting the outside of my house, I would like summer
to return soon - when I started this job it was still too hot to work
mid-afternoon - today I had to come inside by 5-30pm because it was too
cold outside in shorts!!!

I know what you mean there.. the most disappointing aspect of this
period is the lack of warmth in the air, even in normally warm parts of
the country such as Southampton or Bath (where I was over the weekend -
it was uncomfortable sitting outside yesterday). Since the 10th August,
temperatures have been struggling to get up to the 1961-90 average,
never mind the rather higher averages since 1989. Such a sustained
period of temperatures not widely exceeding the 61-90 average has
generally been rare in recent years, though it's happened several times
in the past 12 months.

Well you never know, summer might still have one more card to play...
will the recent pattern of warm/dry Septembers be repeated again? GFS
is suggesting something of a southerly pattern in early September,
though not always anticyclonic. Still at least it would be warm, so if
you get stuck out in a thundery downpour (as I was over the weekend :-|
) it'll dry off quickly...


Nick

On 21 Aug 2006 06:47:55 -0700, wrote:

...
There seems to be a significant risk that this month will be all of
cloudier, cooler and wetter than average, particularly the further
north and east you go.
...

Our mean max this month so far is 20.5°C with a mean min of 11.4°C.
This compares with June (20.1°C, 9.9°C) and July (23.6°C, 12.6°C).
This month has generally been very overcast but only 48.8mm of rain so
far.

So, certainly cloudier but not cooler or wetter.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather
Some walks and treks:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks

In message . com,
"Steve J, BWS" writes

As I am currently painting the outside of my house, I would like summer
to return soon - when I started this job it was still too hot to work
mid-afternoon - today I had to come inside by 5-30pm because it was too
cold outside in shorts!!!

Why not wear long trousers, then?
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

In message . com,
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I know what you mean there.. the most disappointing aspect of this
period is the lack of warmth in the air, even in normally warm parts of
the country such as Southampton or Bath (where I was over the weekend -
it was uncomfortable sitting outside yesterday).

Personally, I'm loving it - no sleepless nights or sweaty days!
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)