Hi! Well it would seem something can be done to combat the dreaded
Climatic change. Good job seeing as every politician is saying - ' I'm
greener than you, so Bah sucks etc.'

Just imagine if they came out and said: nothing can be done we are all
doomed. No, no, no that is not the way to behave.

Now I have been on very few of these conferences, and they are
approached thus:

1. Agenda. Where to hold next conference - must be warm and sunny but
not too hot. This is decided first.

2. What to discuss? Problems occur here before another wishy-washy
agenda is drawn up.

3. The agenda and papers,- these largely discussed over the bar in the
evenings - nothing wrong with that!

4. Finally the conclusions that must be drawn up at the next meeting,
Conclusions at the present meeting having been drawn up at the previous
one.

5. Then a fond farewell to all your international chums till next time
- i.e as soon as possible.

Cynical?

Cheers

Paul


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'Wisest are they that know they do not know.' Socrates.
Paul Bartlett FRMetS
www.rutnet.co.uk Go to local weather.
400FT AMSL 25Miles southwest of the Wash

In message , Paul Bartlett
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Hi! Well it would seem something can be done to combat the dreaded
Climatic change. Good job seeing as every politician is saying - ' I'm
greener than you, so Bah sucks etc.'

Just imagine if they came out and said: nothing can be done we are all
doomed. No, no, no that is not the way to behave.

Now I have been on very few of these conferences, and they are
approached thus:

1. Agenda. Where to hold next conference - must be warm and sunny but
not too hot. This is decided first.

2. What to discuss? Problems occur here before another wishy-washy
agenda is drawn up.

3. The agenda and papers,- these largely discussed over the bar in the
evenings - nothing wrong with that!

4. Finally the conclusions that must be drawn up at the next meeting,
Conclusions at the present meeting having been drawn up at the previous
one.

5. Then a fond farewell to all your international chums till next time
- i.e as soon as possible.

Cynical?
I unfortunately need to go a little further on this.
When the Global Warming theory was hatched in the very late 1980's few
English politicians were seriously interested. Then further research by
meteorologists/climatologists was so overwhelming that they had to see
what could be done.
The same attitude spread globally with the exception of USA, Australia,
Canada, China and India. Poor old Africa was left with more pressing
problems.
Now should Europe get a severe winter, as occurred in the mid-war years,
possible due to a strong La Nina - where will everybody stand?
My initial posting may have seemed very banal. In fact is was not.
My apologies for going on about this subject, maybe everyone has just
accepted global warming as a fact. I cannot possibly disagree - but one
cold winter may have huge European political consequences.
Are we too sanguine?
Cheers
Paul
--
'Wisest are they that know they do not know.' Socrates.
Paul Bartlett FRMetS
www.rutnet.co.uk Go to local weather.
400FT AMSL 25Miles southwest of the Wash

My apologies for going on about this subject, maybe everyone has just
accepted global warming as a fact. I cannot possibly disagree - but one
cold winter may have huge European political consequences.
Are we too sanguine?

Didn't eastern Europe and western Russia have a severe winter last year?
Near record-breakingly cold temperatures I seem to remember.

Space is as cold as it ever was and when your that far away from the
influences of the sea with the right conditions and long, clear nights -
it's always going to be cold, methinks.
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Nick G
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

Paul Bartlett wrote:

I unfortunately need to go a little further on this.
When the Global Warming theory was hatched in the very late 1980's few
English politicians were seriously interested. Then further research by
meteorologists/climatologists was so overwhelming that they had to see
what could be done.

The theory was hatched in the 90s - the 1890s. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_...for_ic e_ages.
Little work then seems to have been done until the 1960s. In 1967, Manabe
and Wetherald calculated a doubling of CO2 would raise global temperatures
by a couple of degrees C - rather less than Arrhenius had calculated.

The theory wasn't created to explain global warming but actually forecast it
would happen.

The same attitude spread globally with the exception of USA, Australia,
Canada, China and India. Poor old Africa was left with more pressing
problems.
Now should Europe get a severe winter, as occurred in the mid-war years,
possible due to a strong La Nina - where will everybody stand?
My initial posting may have seemed very banal. In fact is was not.
My apologies for going on about this subject, maybe everyone has just
accepted global warming as a fact. I cannot possibly disagree - but one
cold winter may have huge European political consequences.
Are we too sanguine?

Curiously, the severe European winters of the 40s corresponded with the
previous peak in global temperatures. Temperatures are now 0.6C above that
peak.

La Nina is in place and a cold pool in the Atlantic (albeit showing signs of
weakening) would suggest a little hope for a more easterly winter than
usual.


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Graham P Davis
Bracknell, Berks., UK
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