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Severe thunderstorm, Wokingham,1723z to .... moving away to north now, still
the odd rumble heard. At its height there were between 15 and 30 flashes per minute, and several CG very close. Rain was torrential 1813z to 1825z, with vis reduced to 600m. Local roads are awash, and I wonder how people are coping on the nearby M4.The end of the storm was quite dramatic, with the rain suddenly easing, allowing the vis to rise to over 5km in a matter of seconds, revealing a cloud edge and blue sky to the SW. As the storm approached I switched off and disconnected all PCs and unplugged leads to the roof. The ultra-sonic anemometer was the only instrument to be kept going, and it semes to have come through unscathed. I am in the process of powering up again, but all equipment seems to be working. No thunder heard for 10 mins now, 1850z. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html |
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Bernard,
Similar storm here in Three Mile Cross. Plenty of thunder but without quite the amount of rain you have just had and the same sharp ending as it moved north. I have just heard that parts of The Holt School have been flooded quite badly and this will be largely due to run off from the flat roof of one of the blocks which the drains could not cope with. I would be very interested to hear what the rainfall total was for this storm and also the rainfall rate as I will probably be talking to the Insurance company tomorrow! The last time this happened was on a Friday night in 1994 some time around June when there was another torrential downpour and the same parts of the school were flooded. If you do happen to recall that storm and have rainfall figures for it I would be very interested in a comparison with tonight's event. Regards Steve Thomas "Bernard Burton" wrote in message ... Severe thunderstorm, Wokingham,1723z to .... moving away to north now, still the odd rumble heard. At its height there were between 15 and 30 flashes per minute, and several CG very close. Rain was torrential 1813z to 1825z, with vis reduced to 600m. Local roads are awash, and I wonder how people are coping on the nearby M4.The end of the storm was quite dramatic, with the rain suddenly easing, allowing the vis to rise to over 5km in a matter of seconds, revealing a cloud edge and blue sky to the SW. As the storm approached I switched off and disconnected all PCs and unplugged leads to the roof. The ultra-sonic anemometer was the only instrument to be kept going, and it semes to have come through unscathed. I am in the process of powering up again, but all equipment seems to be working. No thunder heard for 10 mins now, 1850z. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html |
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"Steve Thomas" wrote in
: The last time this happened was on a Friday night in 1994 some time around June when there was another torrential downpour and the same parts of the school were flooded. If you do happen to recall that storm and have rainfall figures for it I would be very interested in a comparison with tonight's event. 24th June 1994 - I was in Reading at the time, can still remember it vividly. Someone actually has put a film of the storm from Essex on youtube, you can see the "roll cloud" ahead of the storm with the vivid and frequent lightning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pyS9Cj2yU Richard |
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Only 4.2 mm fell here in Stratfield Mortimer ... One or two of the
thunderclaps I'd just about describe as 'loud/heavy' otherwise only a 'tlr' here. The clearer skies to south-west were visible through most of the period of quite steady rainfall. Almost 2 hours thunder and lightning, though, so no complaints - only the fifth thunder-day so far this year here, and remarkably the first to have more than a single 'bang'. Stephen |
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In message , Steve Thomas
writes Bernard, Similar storm here in Three Mile Cross. Plenty of thunder but without quite the amount of rain you have just had and the same sharp ending as it moved north. I have just heard that parts of The Holt School have been flooded quite badly and this will be largely due to run off from the flat roof of one of the blocks which the drains could not cope with. I would be very interested to hear what the rainfall total was for this storm and also the rainfall rate as I will probably be talking to the Insurance company tomorrow! The last time this happened was on a Friday night in 1994 some time around June when there was another torrential downpour and the same parts of the school were flooded. If you do happen to recall that storm and have rainfall figures for it I would be very interested in a comparison with tonight's event. Regards Steve Thomas "Bernard Burton" wrote in message ... Severe thunderstorm, Wokingham,1723z to .... moving away to north now, still the odd rumble heard. At its height there were between 15 and 30 flashes per minute, and several CG very close. Rain was torrential 1813z to 1825z, with vis reduced to 600m. Local roads are awash, and I wonder how people are coping on the nearby M4.The end of the storm was quite dramatic, with the rain suddenly easing, allowing the vis to rise to over 5km in a matter of seconds, revealing a cloud edge and blue sky to the SW. As the storm approached I switched off and disconnected all PCs and unplugged leads to the roof. The ultra-sonic anemometer was the only instrument to be kept going, and it semes to have come through unscathed. I am in the process of powering up again, but all equipment seems to be working. No thunder heard for 10 mins now, 1850z. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html Steve, For what it's worth, we had 9mm in 35min at Middle Assendon, nr Henley, today, same storm cell as Bernard B. HTH Luck with the insurers! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- John P. Verge Middle Assendon, Henley, Oxon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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![]() "Richard Dixon" wrote in message 9... "Steve Thomas" wrote in : The last time this happened was on a Friday night in 1994 some time around June when there was another torrential downpour and the same parts of the school were flooded. If you do happen to recall that storm and have rainfall figures for it I would be very interested in a comparison with tonight's event. 24th June 1994 - I was in Reading at the time, can still remember it vividly. Someone actually has put a film of the storm from Essex on youtube, you can see the "roll cloud" ahead of the storm with the vivid and frequent lightning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pyS9Cj2yU Richard That storm was an MCS (Mesoscale Convective System) gave a lot of rain over East Anglia IIRC. Used that one for years as a case example at work! Will. -- |
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Steve,
I have just been looking at the figures from the AWS at Emmbrook. The TBR logged 23.2 mm in 32 minutes, but correcting for expected losses that should be equivalent to 25.8 mm. What is astonishing are the values for rain rates. Here is the list of the one minute mean and max rain rates during the storm, mm/hr (all times GMT, and time is minute ending at): Time mean max 1809 12 16 1810 34 49 1811 40 46 1812 27 34 1813 27 43 1814 40 43 1815 40 49 1816 87 107 1817 101 177 1818 121 177 1819 154 314 1820 121 314 1821 127 506 1822 94 177 1823 101 177 1824 94 227 1825 148 314 1826 101 314 1827 20 36 The maximum indicated rain rate was 506 mm/hr at 1820z. Tips are timed to the nearest 500 ms, so there is an error bar about 200 mm/hr wide at that rate. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "Steve Thomas" wrote in message ... Bernard, Similar storm here in Three Mile Cross. Plenty of thunder but without quite the amount of rain you have just had and the same sharp ending as it moved north. I have just heard that parts of The Holt School have been flooded quite badly and this will be largely due to run off from the flat roof of one of the blocks which the drains could not cope with. I would be very interested to hear what the rainfall total was for this storm and also the rainfall rate as I will probably be talking to the Insurance company tomorrow! The last time this happened was on a Friday night in 1994 some time around June when there was another torrential downpour and the same parts of the school were flooded. If you do happen to recall that storm and have rainfall figures for it I would be very interested in a comparison with tonight's event. Regards Steve Thomas "Bernard Burton" wrote in message ... Severe thunderstorm, Wokingham,1723z to .... moving away to north now, still the odd rumble heard. At its height there were between 15 and 30 flashes per minute, and several CG very close. Rain was torrential 1813z to 1825z, with vis reduced to 600m. Local roads are awash, and I wonder how people are coping on the nearby M4.The end of the storm was quite dramatic, with the rain suddenly easing, allowing the vis to rise to over 5km in a matter of seconds, revealing a cloud edge and blue sky to the SW. As the storm approached I switched off and disconnected all PCs and unplugged leads to the roof. The ultra-sonic anemometer was the only instrument to be kept going, and it semes to have come through unscathed. I am in the process of powering up again, but all equipment seems to be working. No thunder heard for 10 mins now, 1850z. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html |
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Steve,
Re your query regarding the 1994 event. As others have already said, it was on the 24th June 1994, and we measured 43.6 mm at Emmbrook. Regards -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "Steve Thomas" wrote in message ... Bernard, Similar storm here in Three Mile Cross. Plenty of thunder but without quite the amount of rain you have just had and the same sharp ending as it moved north. I have just heard that parts of The Holt School have been flooded quite badly and this will be largely due to run off from the flat roof of one of the blocks which the drains could not cope with. I would be very interested to hear what the rainfall total was for this storm and also the rainfall rate as I will probably be talking to the Insurance company tomorrow! The last time this happened was on a Friday night in 1994 some time around June when there was another torrential downpour and the same parts of the school were flooded. If you do happen to recall that storm and have rainfall figures for it I would be very interested in a comparison with tonight's event. Regards Steve Thomas "Bernard Burton" wrote in message ... Severe thunderstorm, Wokingham,1723z to .... moving away to north now, still the odd rumble heard. At its height there were between 15 and 30 flashes per minute, and several CG very close. Rain was torrential 1813z to 1825z, with vis reduced to 600m. Local roads are awash, and I wonder how people are coping on the nearby M4.The end of the storm was quite dramatic, with the rain suddenly easing, allowing the vis to rise to over 5km in a matter of seconds, revealing a cloud edge and blue sky to the SW. As the storm approached I switched off and disconnected all PCs and unplugged leads to the roof. The ultra-sonic anemometer was the only instrument to be kept going, and it semes to have come through unscathed. I am in the process of powering up again, but all equipment seems to be working. No thunder heard for 10 mins now, 1850z. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html |
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We had a similarly intense storm in Lower Earley yesterday evening -
9mb video here http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~paul...torm190607.wmv The video gives an impression of the close CG strikes, although none really caught on film, and the camera work is a bit shaky! |
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Bernard,
Thanks very much for your information and thanks to the others who chipped in. The damage to the school was not as bad as it was in 1994 but the cause was the same - intense rainfall rate overwhelming the drains. Still we seem to have got off lightly compared to other parts of the country. Regards Steve Thomas "Bernard Burton" wrote in message ... Steve, Re your query regarding the 1994 event. As others have already said, it was on the 24th June 1994, and we measured 43.6 mm at Emmbrook. Regards -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "Steve Thomas" wrote in message ... Bernard, Similar storm here in Three Mile Cross. Plenty of thunder but without quite the amount of rain you have just had and the same sharp ending as it moved north. I have just heard that parts of The Holt School have been flooded quite badly and this will be largely due to run off from the flat roof of one of the blocks which the drains could not cope with. I would be very interested to hear what the rainfall total was for this storm and also the rainfall rate as I will probably be talking to the Insurance company tomorrow! The last time this happened was on a Friday night in 1994 some time around June when there was another torrential downpour and the same parts of the school were flooded. If you do happen to recall that storm and have rainfall figures for it I would be very interested in a comparison with tonight's event. Regards Steve Thomas "Bernard Burton" wrote in message ... Severe thunderstorm, Wokingham,1723z to .... moving away to north now, still the odd rumble heard. At its height there were between 15 and 30 flashes per minute, and several CG very close. Rain was torrential 1813z to 1825z, with vis reduced to 600m. Local roads are awash, and I wonder how people are coping on the nearby M4.The end of the storm was quite dramatic, with the rain suddenly easing, allowing the vis to rise to over 5km in a matter of seconds, revealing a cloud edge and blue sky to the SW. As the storm approached I switched off and disconnected all PCs and unplugged leads to the roof. The ultra-sonic anemometer was the only instrument to be kept going, and it semes to have come through unscathed. I am in the process of powering up again, but all equipment seems to be working. No thunder heard for 10 mins now, 1850z. -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html or www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html |
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