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Interesting UKMO T+72 with a low to the SW with a back bent occlusion
under a 120+ kt jet.
Possibilty for a rapid deepener and a Sting Jet and echoes of Fastnet
1979?
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"Waghorn" wrote in message
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Interesting UKMO T+72 with a low to the SW with a back bent occlusion
under a 120+ kt jet.
Possibilty for a rapid deepener and a Sting Jet and echoes of Fastnet
1979?
regards,
David


Indeedy.

I remember 1979 well.

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"Waghorn" wrote in message
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Interesting UKMO T+72 with a low to the SW with a back bent occlusion
under a 120+ kt jet.
Possibilty for a rapid deepener and a Sting Jet and echoes of Fastnet
1979?
regards,
David


How about this then!
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3843.png


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Russel Sprout wrote:

How about this then!
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3843.png


Standard August bank holiday chart :-)

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"Jonathan Stott" wrote in message
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Russel Sprout wrote:

How about this then!
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3843.png


Standard August bank holiday chart :-)

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Thankfully it's so far ahead it probably wont come off.

(I hope!)


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"Waghorn" wrote in message
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Interesting UKMO T+72 with a low to the SW with a back bent occlusion
under a 120+ kt jet.
Possibilty for a rapid deepener and a Sting Jet and echoes of Fastnet
1979?


They've being going mad with the red crayon again the weather warning
dept. at the Met Office again.

Four consecutive days of heavy rain and severe gales. Over the
enitire country. In August.

I think not.
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On 12 Aug, 06:44, "Col" wrote:
"Waghorn" wrote in message

oups.com...

Interesting UKMO T+72 with a low to the SW with a back bent occlusion
under a 120+ kt jet.
Possibilty for a rapid deepener and a Sting Jet and echoes of Fastnet
1979?


They've being going mad with the red crayon again the weather warning
dept. at the Met Office again.

Four consecutive days of heavy rain and severe gales. Over the
enitire country. In August.

I think not.
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Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


Remember, rule A of weather forecasting, cover your arse!, Include all
possibilities however fantasist, and son't ever admit you may be wrong!

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On 12 Aug, 06:44, "Col" wrote:
"Waghorn" wrote in message

oups.com...

Interesting UKMO T+72 with a low to the SW with a back bent occlusion
under a 120+ kt jet.
Possibilty for a rapid deepener and a Sting Jet and echoes of Fastnet
1979?


They've being going mad with the red crayon again the weather warning
dept. at the Met Office again.

Four consecutive days of heavy rain and severe gales. Over the
enitire country. In August.

I think not.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


Remember, rule A of weather forecasting, cover your arse!, Include all
possibilities however fantasist, and son't ever admit you may be wrong!


I accept that there has to some kind of caution in warning people what
*might* happen, but a blanket warning for 4 days is completely over the
top and when it inevitably doesn't happen we're back to the 'crying wolf'
accusations.
If they are unsure as to what will happen, as was alluded to in the text
then
don't give an advanced waring at all or at least wait until details have
firmed up enough to allow them to be more region specific.
Blanket warnings are meaningless.
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Col

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Remember, rule A of weather forecasting, cover your arse!, Include
all possibilities however fantasist, and son't ever admit you may be
wrong!


I accept that there has to some kind of caution in warning people what
*might* happen, but a blanket warning for 4 days is completely over
the top and when it inevitably doesn't happen we're back to the
'crying wolf' accusations.
If they are unsure as to what will happen, as was alluded to in the
text then
don't give an advanced waring at all or at least wait until details
have firmed up enough to allow them to be more region specific.
Blanket warnings are meaningless.


Just to show how silly it can be is illustrated by the forecast for the East
of England for Monday the 13th.
It will be a bright day with sunny spells and just a few light showers.
Feeling pleasant with winds mainly light south-westerly. Maximum temperature
21 °C.

On the same page the whole area is a solid red along with the rest of the UK
which does not agree with the written forecast which is for a reasonable
day.



Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
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On Aug 12, 6:44 am, "Col" wrote:
"Waghorn" wrote in message

oups.com...

Interesting UKMO T+72 with a low to the SW with a back bent occlusion
under a 120+ kt jet.
Possibilty for a rapid deepener and a Sting Jet and echoes of Fastnet
1979?


They've being going mad with the red crayon again the weather warning
dept. at the Met Office again.

Four consecutive days of heavy rain and severe gales. Over the
enitire country. In August.

I think not.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


Ah, that's Global Warming for you, despite the feeling that
this is 1954 or 1956 all over again.
The warnings as shown are inappropriate at this stage. It certainly
not going to be a "nice day" next Tuesday and Wednesday but I see
there is a 30% chance of disruption in the SE. What does that mean,
exactly? Rain stopped play? Builders can't lay concrete? Hardly
unknown phenomena, even down here. To me, "disruption" means
cancelled or delayed train services, roads closed due to snow,
serious flooding or trees down, bits flying off buildings etc. I just
don't think that will happen in the SE and neither, I suspect, does
the Met Office.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.




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