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Default Solar Weather Technique forecasts: massive storms to hit Britain and Europe (Oct 26-31, Nov 8-13 and Nov 24-28)

Steve Schulin wrote:

Piers Corbyn


Is at about 0 for 8, and now trying for 0 for 11.

A honest random number generator could give better forecasts.


--
Phil Hays



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Default Solar Weather Technique forecasts: massive storms to hit Britain and Europe (Oct 26-31, Nov 8-13 and Nov 24-28)

On Oct 17, 6:41 pm, "Col" wrote:
October 26th to 31st or Nov 1st. Storm gusts of 80 to 100mph in
places. This is likely to be a major storm period but probably only a
'warm-up' for what is to come in November. It is good there is now no
election (eg on Nov 1st ) because the election period would have been
severely disrupted (NB warning of the storms was passed on to the
Labour leadership). The storm will track East and likely (80%
confident) affect Holland, Denmark, South Norway, South Sweden and
parts of North Germany.


Ah, so now we know the truth behing the election that never was,
nothing to do with poor opinion polls then!

80-100 mph, eh?

Just watch Corbyn clain 'victory' with a gust of 80 mph in an
exposed location during a 'normal' autumn gale, on any one of
those dates in that week.

The chances of that I would imagine wouldn't be particularly low,
especially if you considerthe Northern Isles and mountain tops
in the Highlands.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


He forecast the lousy summer just as all my friends
recognise I did.

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On Oct 17, 8:34 pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
Title:


with this cock-and-bull story, Steve.


The real cock-and-bull story is that CO2 shows GHG
properties in School experiments.
Tell me Roger Coppock.
Why you can't pull the same trick with Methane ?

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Default Solar Weather Technique forecasts: massive storms to hit Britain and Europe (Oct 26-31, Nov 8-13 and Nov 24-28)

On Oct 17, 5:27 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" wrote:
"Steve Schulin" wrote in message

oups.com...
Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and Europe
during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.

Best wishes,

Steve Schulinhttp://www.nuclear.com
and coming soon:http://www.calamitology.com

Weather Action - The Long Range Forecasters

News Release - Oct 16, 2007

From Weather Action Special News Conference Oct 16th 2007 on 20th


Anniversary of the Great Storm of 1987

Massive storms to hit Britain & Europe.

- part of solar-driven world wide extreme weather events -

- It's the sun not CO2 scientist warns.

- Astro-scientist warns of massive damaging storms -- caused
by solar activity not CO2 -- to strike Europe in three waves between
late October and the end of November. Typhoons and extreme storm
events worldwide also expected.

- Third wave to hit on the 304th anniversary of the
devastating tempest of 1703.

- The total damage likely to exceed that of the Great Storm of
1987 and aspects of the storms may have more in common with the
devastating Tempest of 1703

- Nobel Committee challenged to remove award from Al Gore.

At a special press Conference on the 20th anniversary of the Great
Storm of 1987 which struck Southern England Piers Corbyn
astrophysicist of Weather Action long range forecasters -- who
correctly predicted the summer severe flooding events in Britain from
months ahead - issued a chilling warning that three waves of storms
will hit Britain and Europe between late October and the end of
November causing £ billions of damage. "There will also be extreme
typhoon and other storm events across the world at around the same
times" he said.

"These storm events are caused by solar particle and magnetic effects
which we can predict. They are nothing to do with Carbon Dioxide or so-
called man-made Global Warming"

Too funny! lol


It won't be if Piers is right will it ?

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Default Solar Weather Technique forecasts: massive storms to hit Britain and Europe (Oct 26-31, Nov 8-13 and Nov 24-28)

I saw a TV programme many years ago that featured Mr.Corbyn in earnest
conversations with bookmakers (Ladbrokes I think). Corbyn himself
more or less admitted that he was a con man but had struck up this
deal with the bookies that they would pay out when he got the obvious
forecast correct, ie the equivalent of paying out if today's forecast
of clear skies turns out to be correct. The bookmaker gained by the
publicity generated in showing just how honest they were and that you
could bet on almost anything - they would always honour that bet. I
certainly finished up with the impression was that Mr.Corbyn and the
bookies were both being rather clever but I did have my doubts about
the reliability of the forecasts.

Jack



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Default Solar Weather Technique forecasts: massive storms to hit Britain and Europe (Oct 26-31, Nov 8-13 and Nov 24-28)


"chemist" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 17, 5:27 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" wrote:
"Steve Schulin" wrote in message

oups.com...
Here's a news release that Piers Corbyn posted to Climatesceptics
yesterday. It contains forecast, developed using Weather Action's
Solar Weather Technique, for massive storms to hit Britain and
Europe
during three specified periods over the coming six weeks.

snippit

"These storm events are caused by solar particle and magnetic
effects
which we can predict. They are nothing to do with Carbon Dioxide or
so-
called man-made Global Warming"


Too funny! lol


t won't be if Piers is right will it ?


He can't be wrong - the public will not remember the dates or wind
speeds and if there are any gales between now and Merry Christmas he
will claim he was right. In the unlikely event that there aren't he
will keep quiet and the public will say 'They' got it wrong again.

Tom


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Odd thing, I have emailed Piers about solar activity in the past and never received a
reply. Since we are near minimum activity (a very, very quiet sun) it is no wonder that he
wouldn't (couldn't?) answer my questions about basic solar activity.


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Default Solar Weather Technique forecasts: massive storms to hit Britain and Europe (Oct 26-31, Nov 8-13 and Nov 24-28)

On Oct 18, 12:24 pm, "Bill Habr" wrote:
Odd thing, I have emailed Piers about solar activity in the past and never received a
reply. Since we are near minimum activity (a very, very quiet sun) it is no wonder that he
wouldn't (couldn't?) answer my questions about basic solar activity.


He's a con-man and charlatan pure and simple. He has no scientific
credibility whatsoever. And for the record the longest running record
of solar activity is from Wolfs data, the Zurich sunspot number
(although modern measures are now more accurate). It is available
online for historic data and also the most recent cycle at

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/SSN/ssn.html

Note that measuring the Earths magnetic field behaviour can under some
circumstance be used to predict future long term solar activity during
parts of the solar cycle. Auroral emissions at high altitudes near the
poles are fun but the solar wind has little or no effect on the
troposphere. Transient induced current effects across the Canada power
grid sufficient to trip circuit breakers in extreme geomagnetic storms
is about the limit.

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/predict.shtml

And for would be aurora watchers

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Tonight or tomorrow night are decent candidates for a bit of a display
at high latitudes.
Note that these are all genuine science sites and not Daily Express
bull****e fodder.

Mr Corbyns long range weather "forecasts" are about as useful as "rain
or go dark before morning" predictions.

Regards,
Martin Brown

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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 18, 12:24 pm, "Bill Habr" wrote:
Odd thing, I have emailed Piers about solar activity in the past and never received a
reply. Since we are near minimum activity (a very, very quiet sun) it is no wonder

that he
wouldn't (couldn't?) answer my questions about basic solar activity.


He's a con-man and charlatan pure and simple. He has no scientific
credibility whatsoever. And for the record the longest running record
of solar activity is from Wolfs data, the Zurich sunspot number
(although modern measures are now more accurate). It is available
online for historic data and also the most recent cycle at

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/SSN/ssn.html


I know, I just wondered if Piers would cite anything.


Note that measuring the Earths magnetic field behaviour can under some
circumstance be used to predict future long term solar activity during
parts of the solar cycle. Auroral emissions at high altitudes near the
poles are fun but the solar wind has little or no effect on the
troposphere. Transient induced current effects across the Canada power
grid sufficient to trip circuit breakers in extreme geomagnetic storms
is about the limit.

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/predict.shtml

And for would be aurora watchers

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Tonight or tomorrow night are decent candidates for a bit of a display
at high latitudes.
Note that these are all genuine science sites and not Daily Express
bull****e fodder.

Mr Corbyns long range weather "forecasts" are about as useful as "rain
or go dark before morning" predictions.

Regards,
Martin Brown



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"chemist" wrote
The real cock-and-bull story is that CO2 shows GHG
properties in School experiments.


The real purpose of the experiments of course, is to get them in the dark
so that scientists can run their chemically stained old man fingers between
the moist, hairless, forbidden places between the legs of the cute little
prepubescent girls in the science class.

"Stand over here in the cloak room, bambi, you can see the effect best
from here." - Evil Dr. Science
"Ok Dr. Science. Will it help if I bend over like this?" - Bambi.

Yes, the great global warming conspiracy is all about Nerdy old men and
the 11 year olds girls of whom they lust.

Or so think the KKKonservative KKKwacks.






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