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On 10 Nov, 13:18, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Nov 10, 10:34 am, "Jon O'Rourke"
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I'm still waiting for the severe earthquake that would occur as TS
Noel diminished.


Careful with the Lawyerman he'll eat you for breakfast, Crazy horse.


I'm also wondering what seismic and solar activity is needed to
change
these current weather patterns, interesting nevertheless!
It does indeed look like a different (pre 90's?) setup this late
autumn/winter at current time, what do you think chaps and chapesses.


Could this week be the start of something completely different?


Cheers


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1. That's what usually happens
2. I'm a pessimist.


Dave


Hi Dave and others, I think the high will eventually sink south but will
inevitably be replaced probably by yet another one from the west. A mild
zonal
flow seems a long way away yet. GFS ensembles show predictability to be
zero
beyond T+168. It does look like we will eventually get a frosty high
establishing over UK during second half of next week. The continent is
cold and
any feed off there will be cold. The east will probably be colder than
the west
and I guess western Scotland could end up quite mild. If winds swing
southwest
more generally then obviously it will turn milder but cloudy, but as I
say, I
cannot see such an event lasting very long as we are not getting a
southwest jet
pushing into Iceland instead it is being diverted north to Greenland
round the
very persistent mid-Atlantic ridge. See GFS 300 HpA streamline charts on
Wetterzentrale - this gives a better broadscale view on what's happening
than
surface pressure patterns.

Will
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Maybe too early to say but this could end up being a very dry autumn
in southern England, particularly from the point of view of number of
days with significant rainfall.

I get the impression there is a correlation between unusually wet
early/mid summers and unusually dry autumns - 1978/80/85 showing
similarities. No indications for the winter though with a mixture of
cold and mild following.

Nick

-----------------
What about dry summer, dry winter, quite dry summer and very dry autumn? I'm
hoping for some winter or at worst early spring sustained rainfall else I
will only be growing cacti next year :-(

Dave




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On Nov 11, 2:17 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

I'm still waiting for the severe earthquake that would occur as TS
Noel diminished.


I was waiting for more but this:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/160_-50.php
was upgraded to a 6.5 which is about as good as it gets there.
(Doesn't preclude more though. But then this wild storm we were
supposed to have wasn't what we were supposed to have was it?)

Joint Typhoon Warning Center Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
Significant tropical weather advisory for the Indian Ocean.

1. North Indian Ocean area (Malay peninsula west to coast of Africa.)
At 11:06 z, tropical cyclone 06b was located near 10.0 N 92.3 E,
approximately 95 nautical miles SSW of the Andaman Islands and had
tracked WNW-ward at 02 knots over the past 6 hours. maximum sustained
winds were estimated at 35 knots gusting to 45 knots.

http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/ab/abioweb.txt

Looks like a rebirth of Peipah to me but what do I know?

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On Nov 11, 2:17 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

I was waiting for more but this:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/160_-50.php
was upgraded to a 6.5 which is about as good as it gets there.
(Doesn't preclude more though. But then this wild storm we were
supposed to have wasn't what we were supposed to have was it?)

Joint Typhoon Warning Center Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
Significant tropical weather advisory for the Indian Ocean.

1. North Indian Ocean area (Malay peninsula west to coast of Africa.)
At 11:06 z, tropical cyclone 06b was located near 10.0 N 92.3 E,
approximately 95 nautical miles SSW of the Andaman Islands and had
tracked WNW-ward at 02 knots over the past 6 hours. maximum sustained
winds were estimated at 35 knots gusting to 45 knots.

http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/ab/abioweb.txt

Looks like a rebirth of Peipah to me but what do I know?


So WL, what does this mean for next week's weather, what if, there are
further earthquakes and dangerous cyclones coming very soon, does it mean
we're all doomed!

Please advise me in plain layman's terms whether the weather due to all this
unusual nastiness, is it going to make my bowel movements worst next week. I
may need to book a doctors appointment.

Kind Regards

Tony Powell

(WR) maxed out at 12.1c here in Newbury, Berkshire but the colder air can't
be far away.


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On 11 Nov, 14:35, "Tony Powell" wrote:
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On Nov 11, 2:17 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


I was waiting for more but this:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/160_-50.php
was upgraded to a 6.5 which is about as good as it gets there.
(Doesn't preclude more though. But then this wild storm we were
supposed to have wasn't what we were supposed to have was it?)


Joint Typhoon Warning Center Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
Significant tropical weather advisory for the Indian Ocean.


1. North Indian Ocean area (Malay peninsula west to coast of Africa.)
At 11:06 z, tropical cyclone 06b was located near 10.0 N 92.3 E,
approximately 95 nautical miles SSW of the Andaman Islands and had
tracked WNW-ward at 02 knots over the past 6 hours. maximum sustained
winds were estimated at 35 knots gusting to 45 knots.


http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/ab/abioweb.txt


Looks like a rebirth of Peipah to me but what do I know?


So WL, what does this mean for next week's weather, what if, there are
further earthquakes and dangerous cyclones coming very soon, does it mean
we're all doomed!

Please advise me in plain layman's terms whether the weather due to all this
unusual nastiness, is it going to make my bowel movements worst next week. I
may need to book a doctors appointment.

Kind Regards

Tony Powell

(WR) maxed out at 12.1c here in Newbury, Berkshire but the colder air can't
be far away.


I'm afraid he can't do that, because he knows there is no correlation
and the only way he can pretend there could be, is to disguise
everything in gobble-de-gook, and then he insults those of us who try
and demand some science.

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On 11 Nov, 16:34, wrote:


I'm afraid he can't do that, because he knows there is no correlation
and the only way he can pretend there could be, is to disguise
everything in gobble-de-gook, and then he insults those of us who try
and demand some science.



....oh, and I do not count a 6.5 earthquake somewhere below the sea bed
between New Zealand and Antarctica as having anything to do with an ex
TS disappearing across Scandinavia 4 days before the earthquake
happened.





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...oh, and I do not count a 6.5 earthquake somewhere below the sea bed
between New Zealand and Antarctica as having anything to do with an ex
TS disappearing across Scandinavia 4 days before the earthquake
happened.


Of course you don't. But that isn't why I call you a fool.

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On Nov 11, 12:18 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Nov 11, 2:17 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:



I'm still waiting for the severe earthquake that would occur as TS
Noel diminished.


I was waiting for more but this:http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...10/160_-50.php
was upgraded to a 6.5 which is about as good as it gets there.
(Doesn't preclude more though. But then this wild storm we were
supposed to have wasn't what we were supposed to have was it?)

Joint Typhoon Warning Center Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
Significant tropical weather advisory for the Indian Ocean.

1. North Indian Ocean area (Malay peninsula west to coast of Africa.)
At 11:06 z, tropical cyclone 06b was located near 10.0 N 92.3 E,
approximately 95 nautical miles SSW of the Andaman Islands and had
tracked WNW-ward at 02 knots over the past 6 hours. maximum sustained
winds were estimated at 35 knots gusting to 45 knots.

http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/ab/abioweb.txt

Looks like a rebirth of Peipah to me but what do I know?


Pearl Harbor,Joinjt Typhoon Warning Centre significant tropical
weather advisory for the Western and South Pacific Oceans tropical
cyclone formation alert.

1. western north pacific area (180 to Malay Peninsula.)

The area of convection previously located near 17.7 N 143.6 E, is now
located near 19.8 N 140.0 E, approximately 310 nautical miles SSW of
Iwo To.Satellite imagery shows an area of organizing, flaring deep
convection with a partially exposed low level circulation center.
Upper level analysis depicts the disturbance is near the ridge axis
with good poleward venting.

This features is providing good diffluence and moderate vertical wind
shear. maximum sustained surface winds are estimated at 18 to 22
knots. Minimum sea level pressure is estimated to be near 1004
millibars.

Based on the favourable upper level conditions and improving
organization of the low level circulation centre, the potential for
the development of a significant tropical cyclone within the next 24
hours is upgraded to good.

http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/ab/abpwweb.txt

Then there were two?

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On 11 Nov, 17:46, Weatherlawyer wrote:
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...oh, and I do not count a 6.5 earthquake somewhere below the sea bed
between New Zealand and Antarctica as having anything to do with an ex
TS disappearing across Scandinavia 4 days before the earthquake
happened.


Of course you don't. But that isn't why I call you a fool.


OK, then. What is the precise connection, in scientific terms that
actually make sense?

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On Nov 11, 6:07 pm, wrote:
On 11 Nov, 17:46, Weatherlawyer wrote:

wrote:


...oh, and I do not count a 6.5 earthquake somewhere below the sea bed
between New Zealand and Antarctica as having anything to do with an ex
TS disappearing across Scandinavia 4 days before the earthquake
happened.


Of course you don't. But that isn't why I call you a fool.


OK, then. What is the precise connection, in scientific terms that
actually make sense?


Use the force little one. Do not be seduced by the dark side.

Or failing that, try reading what I said not what you said I said.

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On 11 Nov, 18:26, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Nov 11, 6:07 pm, wrote:

On 11 Nov, 17:46, Weatherlawyer wrote:


wrote:


...oh, and I do not count a 6.5 earthquake somewhere below the sea bed
between New Zealand and Antarctica as having anything to do with an ex
TS disappearing across Scandinavia 4 days before the earthquake
happened.


Of course you don't. But that isn't why I call you a fool.


OK, then. What is the precise connection, in scientific terms that
actually make sense?


Use the force little one. Do not be seduced by the dark side.

Or failing that, try reading what I said not what you said I said.


That's the best you can do? A misquote from Star Wars?

I shall not waste my time any more.



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