Compared to the longer-term average, the summer so far, for England
and for you at least, is, well, pretty average so far!

Pretty average here for June so far temperature wise, but it has been drier
than normal. I don't know about sunshine but the average is getting on for
nearly 8 hours a day which must be about average for here or slightly less.

(1st - 23rd)
Min Max Mean Rain Sun
9.6°C 20.2°C 14.9°C 27.8 mm 185 hours
_______________
Nick.
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

"Martin Rowley" wrote in message
...
"Nick Gardner" wrote...

But the 'Return of the Westerlies' and a 'zonal type' set up occurs in
most years around this time. Lamb detailed it and it is something I have
noticed that seems to happen in around 7 out of 10 years. Of course, the
'detail' can make all the difference such as if the Jet Stream is just a
little bit to the north or to the south we can have a great detail of
difference in what weather we get, and if the Jet Stream is weaker or
stronger, meanders or not. Anyway, I am rambling on now and I am sure
there are far more people on this newsgroup better qualified than me to
answer this question.


... Philip Eden wrote an excellent article on the subject of the 'European
Monsoon' which those that haven't met the term before might like to read:-

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/

and look at the list of articles on the right-hand side.

Eeek! It should have said the term was coined early in the 20th
century, not the present century. But thanks for the kind words,
Martin.

Philip

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:21:24 -0700 (PDT), Dawlish
wrote:

Compared to the longer-term average, the summer so far, for England
and for you at least, is, well, pretty average so far!

Here, after the warmest May since August 2002, so far it's been the
coolest June.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

In article ,
says...
Here, after the warmest May since August 2002, so far it's been the
coolest June.


Can I assume then, that July 2006 had a warmer May?

--
Alan LeHun

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:24:21 +0100, Alan LeHun wrote:

Can I assume then, that July 2006 had a warmer May?

If you wish.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

your worse than weatheraction...
cant spell "the" now?

talk about 2 faced in your last post about him and his spelling.

sums you really doesn it?




Dawlish wrote:
Weather from the west; a pressure gradient from South to North across
the UK and the jetstream screaming right over the UK.

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/jetstream.asp

The weather isn't dreadfully awful for everyone, though. Summer zonal
has much more of a warm influence from a hot continent than a winter
zonal pattern and between troughs, the strong sun allows some very
nice days, the closer to the continent that you are. The SE (and
Wimbledon) should benefit, but there's likely to be rain interruptions
as fronts cross the UK and the second week looks as if there will be
more than the first.

In addition; the jet, being right over us, allows the South to benefit
from the sinking air on it's Southern flank, whilst the poor NW now
gets the bulk of the wetter and windier weather - good to know the
drought has broken in Cumbria and NW Scotland - as the jet has
realigned itself, a little further North, from it's position last
week.

You must be getting some decent summery weather out of this Dave R?
I'll bet Hyde Park is full of sunbathers this afternoon and they'll be
doing a good trade in extortionately priced strawberries and cream at
Wimbledon. Watch the sun. An afternoon in today's conditions spells
lobster. It's not exactly cracking the flags weather, but 22C, light
winds and strong sunshine would be many people's idea of an English
summer heaven.

I can't see the zonal train stopping yet and the seach is now on for
the change. This zonal spell started on about 10/11th July and we've
now had 2 weeks of it. There's at least a week to go and it could last
a lot longer. That blocked Atlantic of Spring seems a long time ago,
doesn't it? I wonder what actually provided the Epsom salts to unblock
the system?

What a country for weather watching, I wouldn't live anywhere else!
Lovely in the SW this morning, but the office calls. Rats.

Paul

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:24:21 +0100, Alan LeHun wrote:

Can I assume then, that July 2006 had a warmer May?

I'm afraid that Lesley had to explain that to me which has delayed our
meal by two minutes which means we'll miss the beginning of 'Pie in the
Sky' and goodness knows what the consequences of that will be so please
try not to do it again!

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

N.E Zephyr wrote:
your worse than weatheraction...
cant spell "the" now?

talk about 2 faced in your last post about him and his spelling.

sums you really doesn it?


Did you mean "You're worse than..."?

Pot, kettle and black springs to mind
--
MCC

"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote:

"Martin Rowley" wrote in message
...
"Nick Gardner" wrote...

But the 'Return of the Westerlies' and a 'zonal type' set up occurs in
most years around this time. Lamb detailed it and it is something I have
noticed that seems to happen in around 7 out of 10 years. Of course, the
'detail' can make all the difference such as if the Jet Stream is just a
little bit to the north or to the south we can have a great detail of
difference in what weather we get, and if the Jet Stream is weaker or
stronger, meanders or not. Anyway, I am rambling on now and I am sure
there are far more people on this newsgroup better qualified than me to
answer this question.


... Philip Eden wrote an excellent article on the subject of the
'European Monsoon' which those that haven't met the term before might
like to read:-

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/

and look at the list of articles on the right-hand side.

Eeek! It should have said the term was coined early in the 20th
century, not the present century. But thanks for the kind words,
Martin.


I first came across the term in 1964 when I read about it in C E P
Brooks "The English Climate". He gave the average starting date in UK as
June 1 and said that it can sometimes occur in pulses, a week of cool NW
weather alternating with a week of milder WSW winds. Unfortunately for me,
my holiday in Skegness was in the first week and I was frozen. The rest of
the month went by the book with the second week milder and the third cold
and wet again.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.

On 24 Jun, 16:01, "Martin Rowley"
wrote:
"Nick Gardner" wrote...

But the 'Return of the Westerlies' and a 'zonal type' set up occurs
in most years around this time. Lamb detailed it and it is something
I have noticed that seems to happen in around 7 out of 10 years. Of
course, the 'detail' can make all the difference such as if the Jet
Stream is just a little bit to the north or to the south we can have
a great detail of difference in what weather we get, and if the Jet
Stream is weaker or stronger, meanders or not. Anyway, I am rambling
on now and I am sure there are far more people on this newsgroup
better qualified than me to answer this question.

... Philip Eden wrote an excellent article on the subject of the
'European Monsoon' which those that haven't met the term before might
like to read:-

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/

and look at the list of articles on the right-hand side.

Martin.

--
Martin Rowley
West Moors, East Dorset (UK): 17m (56ft) amsl
Lat: 50.82N * Long: 01.88W
NGR: SU 082 023

Surfing conditions often improve from late June on, looking good in
Cornwall for the foreseable future. http://magicseaweed.com/UK-Ireland-MSW-Surf-Charts/1/
Just a matter of picking a time when the sun's out, and there's a lull
in the wind.

Graham
Penzance