On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 at 18:53:39, John Hall
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

Well, what I know is - I've just recorded my lowest temperature for 22
years...

-10.9C last night!

Congratulations. But hopefully you don't need me to tell you that one
very cold night, or even one very cold winter, does not disprove GW,
even though people like Christopher Booker seem to think that it does.

Of course not - but to me it often seems that GW supporters use evidence
just as meagre to support their position...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 at 18:53:39, John Hall wrote
in uk.sci.weather :

Well, what I know is - I've just recorded my lowest temperature for 22
years...

-10.9C last night!

Congratulations. But hopefully you don't need me to tell you that one
very cold night, or even one very cold winter, does not disprove GW,
even though people like Christopher Booker seem to think that it does.

Of course not - but to me it often seems that GW supporters use evidence
just as meagre to support their position...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

I do wonder that if Global Climate is now getting over its recent "hot
Flush"
and now has a chill setting in (cycling as it always has done without the
help of AGW Inc.)
I wonder how long the Gloabal Warming Industry will continue to flog their
dead horse?

Yes, I know that any short term cooling will be sold as yet further
proof of global warming. But I supose that those "scientists" who want to
have a shread of a career left when doubts are being raised will quite
suddenly jump camp. But how can they do it and keep any credibillity?

Watch this space for news of the front runners in the exodus. Can't be long
before one of the big guns starts to feel uneasy.


Paul

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 at 20:48:09, Paulus wrote in
uk.sci.weather :

I do wonder that if Global Climate is now getting over its recent "hot
Flush"
and now has a chill setting in (cycling as it always has done without
the help of AGW Inc.)
I wonder how long the Gloabal Warming Industry will continue to flog
their dead horse?

Yes, I know that any short term cooling will be sold as yet further
proof of global warming.

They'll probably still be claiming *that*, even as the glaciers roll
into London & New York...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Paul Hyett wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 at 20:48:09, Paulus wrote in
uk.sci.weather :

I do wonder that if Global Climate is now getting over its recent "hot
Flush"
and now has a chill setting in (cycling as it always has done without
the help of AGW Inc.)
I wonder how long the Gloabal Warming Industry will continue to flog
their dead horse?

Yes, I know that any short term cooling will be sold as yet further
proof of global warming.

They'll probably still be claiming *that*, even as the glaciers roll
into London & New York...

And the anti-AGW cretins will probably still be claiming that Global Warming
isn't happening, or is caused by natural cycles that nobody else has found,
or changes in the sun that haven't been measured by instruments, whilst
London sinks below the waves.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy

On 8 Jan, 11:13, Graham P Davis wrote:
Paul Hyett wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 at 20:48:09, Paulus wrote in
uk.sci.weather :

I do wonder that if Global Climate is now getting over its recent "hot
Flush"
and now has a chill setting in (cycling as it always has done without
the help of AGW Inc.)
I wonder how long the Gloabal Warming Industry will continue to flog
their dead horse?

Yes, I know that any short term cooling will be sold as yet further
proof of global warming.

They'll probably still be claiming *that*, even as the glaciers roll
into London & New York...

And the anti-AGW cretins will probably still be claiming that Global Warming
isn't happening, or is caused by natural cycles that nobody else has found,
or changes in the sun that haven't been measured by instruments, whilst
London sinks below the waves.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. *E-mail: newsman not newsboy

I don't think you can discount the arguments against GW - just as you
cannot dismiss the few who believe the climate moves in cycles and
weather patterns are affected by sun spot activity. The Earth and
humans have evolved, there's no question about that - but one cannot
ridicule creationists either. We simply don't know the answer to the
above questions - those who think they do are arrogant in the extreme.

Perhaps one good thing to come out of the global warming argument is
that it has got man to clean up his act. Anyone who was around during
the London smogs that used to affect the capital year after year would
heartily agree... We are indeed lucky to be guests on this Earth and
it was long overdue that we started giving it more respect.

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 05:09:21 -0800 (PST), Scott W wrote:

On 8 Jan, 11:13, Graham P Davis wrote:
Paul Hyett wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 at 20:48:09, Paulus wrote in
uk.sci.weather :

I do wonder that if Global Climate is now getting over its recent "hot
Flush"
and now has a chill setting in (cycling as it always has done without
the help of AGW Inc.)
I wonder how long the Gloabal Warming Industry will continue to flog
their dead horse?

Yes, I know that any short term cooling will be sold as yet further
proof of global warming.

They'll probably still be claiming *that*, even as the glaciers roll
into London & New York...

And the anti-AGW cretins will probably still be claiming that Global Warming
isn't happening, or is caused by natural cycles that nobody else has found,
or changes in the sun that haven't been measured by instruments, whilst
London sinks below the waves.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. *E-mail: newsman not newsboy

I don't think you can discount the arguments against GW - just as you
cannot dismiss the few who believe the climate moves in cycles and
weather patterns are affected by sun spot activity. The Earth and
humans have evolved, there's no question about that - but one cannot
ridicule creationists either. We simply don't know the answer to the
above questions - those who think they do are arrogant in the extreme.

Perhaps one good thing to come out of the global warming argument is
that it has got man to clean up his act. Anyone who was around during
the London smogs that used to affect the capital year after year would
heartily agree... We are indeed lucky to be guests on this Earth and
it was long overdue that we started giving it more respect.

It depends what you mean by a creationist. The most extreme ones think the
earth is 6000 years old so ridicule seems an appropriate response in that
case.

Alan

In article 1d647fa9-c36b-4cfe-838c-0223ec661d70
@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com, says...


but one cannot
ridicule creationists either

You jest!! They were /made/ to be ridiculed.



--
Alan LeHun

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 at 11:13:32, Graham P Davis
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

Paul Hyett wrote:

Yes, I know that any short term cooling will be sold as yet further
proof of global warming.

They'll probably still be claiming *that*, even as the glaciers roll
into London & New York...

And the anti-AGW cretins will probably still be claiming that Global Warming
isn't happening, or is caused by natural cycles that nobody else has found,
or changes in the sun that haven't been measured by instruments, whilst
London sinks below the waves.

Touché.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)