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Oh dear, that's gone and dunnit. Hope this isn't a bit premature. If it's
anything like the 30-50mm rain last week I'm not hopeful.

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On Jan 29, 10:35*am, "Dave Cornwell"
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Oh dear, that's gone and dunnit. Hope this isn't a bit premature. If it's
anything like the 30-50mm rain last week I'm not hopeful.

Dave


Dave UKMO are gung ho for devastating global warming, yet when the is
on hint of cold weather all that confidence in heat waves and
disappearing ice seems to go immediately out of the Bracknell window,
suddenly we are to face such severe cold and snow enough to warrant
a weather warning that contradicts their public AGW manifesto.

They are guaranteed to overdo AGW as much as they are guaranteed to
overdo a cold spell.

It’s called ideological ‘elf & safety government interference.

Only this explain the apparent contradictory nature of their concern
for human safety and that of the planet.
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In article ,
Dave Cornwell writes:
Oh dear, that's gone and dunnit. Hope this isn't a bit premature. If it's
anything like the 30-50mm rain last week I'm not hopeful.


It seems a fairly restrained warning, being restricted to east coast
counties and suggesting that anything substantial might be largely
confined to high ground. It's not exactly suggestive of armageddon.
--
John Hall
"It is a very sad thing that nowadays there is so little useless
information."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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Dave Cornwell wrote:

Oh dear, that's gone and dunnit. Hope this isn't a bit premature. If
it's anything like the 30-50mm rain last week I'm not hopeful.

Dave


yes thats Morphic Resonance for you
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On Jan 29, 6:43*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
*Dave Cornwell writes:

Oh dear, that's gone and dunnit. Hope this isn't a bit premature. If it's
anything like the 30-50mm rain last week I'm not hopeful.


It seems a fairly restrained warning, being restricted to east coast
counties and suggesting that anything substantial might be largely
confined to high ground. It's not exactly suggestive of armageddon.
--
John Hall
* * * * * *"It is a very sad thing that nowadays there is so little useless
* * * * * * information."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)


Yes, I also agree that the warning looks relatively subdued.
This situation has the potential to produce a significant amount of
snow, and not just over high ground. Once that sub 516dam cold pool
arrives over the North Sea it will just 'bubble' with Cb. Showers may
well be almost continuous and certainly heavy given the deep cold air.
The strong wind will drive them well inland from the east coast, and
drifting is likely to become a problem in the low dewpoint air. The
latest GFS predicts that once the cold pool moves westward out of the
North Sea it seems to stall over the UK, allowing the development of a
warm plume (occlusion) on the eastern side of the vortex which
subsequently wraps itself around the developing surface depression and
results in more widespread dynamic snow.

Dick Lovett


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Dick wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:43 pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Dave Cornwell writes:

Oh dear, that's gone and dunnit. Hope this isn't a bit premature. If it's
anything like the 30-50mm rain last week I'm not hopeful.

It seems a fairly restrained warning, being restricted to east coast
counties and suggesting that anything substantial might be largely
confined to high ground. It's not exactly suggestive of armageddon.
--
John Hall
"It is a very sad thing that nowadays there is so little useless
information."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)


Yes, I also agree that the warning looks relatively subdued.
This situation has the potential to produce a significant amount of
snow, and not just over high ground. Once that sub 516dam cold pool
arrives over the North Sea it will just 'bubble' with Cb. Showers may
well be almost continuous and certainly heavy given the deep cold air.
The strong wind will drive them well inland from the east coast, and
drifting is likely to become a problem in the low dewpoint air. The
latest GFS predicts that once the cold pool moves westward out of the
North Sea it seems to stall over the UK, allowing the development of a
warm plume (occlusion) on the eastern side of the vortex which
subsequently wraps itself around the developing surface depression and
results in more widespread dynamic snow.

Dick Lovett


Mmm, not so sure, something doesn't feel/look right to me.

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Dave UKMO are gung ho for devastating global warming, yet when the is
on hint of cold weather all that confidence in heat waves and
disappearing ice seems to go immediately out of the Bracknell window


I do worry about those still in Bracknell (presumably buried in the ruins of
the old headquarters building) still working away producing charts and
warnings. Somebody should really rescue them.

Jon.

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Jon O'Rourke wrote:

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Dave UKMO are gung ho for devastating global warming, yet when the is
on hint of cold weather all that confidence in heat waves and
disappearing ice seems to go immediately out of the Bracknell window


I do worry about those still in Bracknell (presumably buried in the ruins of
the old headquarters building) still working away producing charts and
warnings. Somebody should really rescue them.

Jon.


To a degree, I think "Bracknell" and "Met Office" will remain synonymous for
some for quite some time to come. I still come across web sites that refer to
the "Bracknell charts". I must admit I've got a few entries in my Favourites
list that still include "Bracknell" in the title. I know what they mean so
that's all that matters!

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
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On Jan 29, 5:59*pm, wrote:
On Jan 29, 10:35*am, "Dave Cornwell"

wrote:
Oh dear, that's gone and dunnit. Hope this isn't a bit premature. If it's
anything like the 30-50mm rain last week I'm not hopeful.


Dave


Dave UKMO are gung ho for devastating global warming, yet when the is
on hint of cold weather all that confidence in heat waves and
disappearing ice seems to go immediately out of the Bracknell window,
suddenly we are to face *such severe cold and snow *enough to warrant
a weather warning that contradicts their public AGW manifesto.

They are guaranteed to overdo AGW as much as they are guaranteed to
overdo a cold spell.

It’s called ideological ‘elf & safety government interference.

Only this explain the apparent contradictory nature of their concern
for human safety and that of the planet.


Dave UKMO are gung ho for devastating global warming, yet when the is
on hint of cold weather all that confidence in heat waves and
disappearing ice seems to go immediately out of the EXETER window,
suddenly we are to face such severe cold and snow enough to warrant
a weather warning that contradicts their public AGW manifesto.

They are guaranteed to overdo AGW as much as they are guaranteed to
overdo a cold spell.

Okay happy now the dismissive pedantics: however that doesn't fet away
from the fact that UKMO are now a wing of Pravda for this present
government. As a result it will red warnings at the drop of a hat
from now on. Warnings of extreme cold in a warming world-what a joke
they will prove to be.





It’s called ideological ‘elf & safety government interference.


Only this explain the apparent contradictory nature of their concern
for human safety and that of the planet.




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Dave UKMO are gung ho for devastating global warming, yet when the is
on hint of cold weather all that confidence in heat waves and
disappearing ice seems to go immediately out of the Bracknell window,
suddenly we are to face such severe cold and snow enough to warrant
a weather warning that contradicts their public AGW manifesto.


You really need to try and understand the difference between weather and
climate and between global and local.

Tom





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