looks the like the deep cold is not going to make it


UK Outlook for Tuesday 5 Jan 2010 to Thursday 14 Jan 2010:
The middle part of next week and the following weekend will be cold in
all parts. There will be some hard overnight frosts, with a risk of
patchy freezing fog. Southern and western parts should be mainly dry and
sunny, although there is the risk of some occasional wintry showers.
However, wintry showers will be heavier and more frequent in the north
and east where some significant falls are possible. There is also a low
risk of a spell of wintry weather in the south for a time at the end of
next week. The further outlook will continue much the same although it
may become a little less cold. Some more persistent rain, sleet or snow
might spread into the west or southwest later.

Updated: 1139 on Thu 31 Dec 2009

On Dec 31, 3:00*pm, Terry Tibbs wrote:
looks the like the deep cold is not going to make it


Not quite sure how you get that conclusion from that forecast.

The "deep cold" (~ -10C at 850mb) arrives in the next 72 hours, and
looks pretty likely to persist for about a week:
http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

The end of the forecast says it "may become a little less cold" - in
about a fortnight!

What sort of "deep cold" were you expecting?

Looks to me that the boys in exeter are not going with the boys in
reading (ecmwf) any more.

Its like the ukmo have backed off following the deep cold shown by the
ecmwf for the last few days.


RK wrote:
On Dec 31, 3:00 pm, Terry Tibbs wrote:
looks the like the deep cold is not going to make it


Not quite sure how you get that conclusion from that forecast.

The "deep cold" (~ -10C at 850mb) arrives in the next 72 hours, and
looks pretty likely to persist for about a week:
http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

The end of the forecast says it "may become a little less cold" - in
about a fortnight!

What sort of "deep cold" were you expecting?

"Terry Tibbs" wrote in message
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looks the like the deep cold is not going to make it


UK Outlook for Tuesday 5 Jan 2010 to Thursday 14 Jan 2010:
The middle part of next week and the following weekend will be cold in all
parts. There will be some hard overnight frosts, with a risk of patchy
freezing fog. Southern and western parts should be mainly dry and sunny,
although there is the risk of some occasional wintry showers. However,
wintry showers will be heavier and more frequent in the north and east
where some significant falls are possible. There is also a low risk of a
spell of wintry weather in the south for a time at the end of next week.
The further outlook will continue much the same although it may become a
little less cold. Some more persistent rain, sleet or snow might spread
into the west or southwest later.

Updated: 1139 on Thu 31 Dec 2009


I've never seen so many so excited over this faux cold spell. One person
actually said they were the coldest charts he'd ever seen, to be fair he did
put them in his freezer. However many experts plumbed for the coldest spell
seen in many a year, I was so convinced that when the Aston Villa game was
on the other night I thought the snow was going to settle and then drift
South back to me.

Nope overall a load of tosh and slosh really and once again a massive damp
squib . I'd rather not have got me hopes up in the first place than go
through all this again.

Totally agree,
The forums are in meltdown.
Best charts ever? Yes. Will they ever come about? no.


Im just waiting for the mass wrist slashing which I always find amusing.

Look like the ukmo have picked up on something on the 15 dayer....you
can hear the knives coming out.


Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Terry Tibbs" wrote in message
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looks the like the deep cold is not going to make it


UK Outlook for Tuesday 5 Jan 2010 to Thursday 14 Jan 2010:
The middle part of next week and the following weekend will be cold in all
parts. There will be some hard overnight frosts, with a risk of patchy
freezing fog. Southern and western parts should be mainly dry and sunny,
although there is the risk of some occasional wintry showers. However,
wintry showers will be heavier and more frequent in the north and east
where some significant falls are possible. There is also a low risk of a
spell of wintry weather in the south for a time at the end of next week.
The further outlook will continue much the same although it may become a
little less cold. Some more persistent rain, sleet or snow might spread
into the west or southwest later.

Updated: 1139 on Thu 31 Dec 2009


I've never seen so many so excited over this faux cold spell. One person
actually said they were the coldest charts he'd ever seen, to be fair he did
put them in his freezer. However many experts plumbed for the coldest spell
seen in many a year, I was so convinced that when the Aston Villa game was
on the other night I thought the snow was going to settle and then drift
South back to me.

Nope overall a load of tosh and slosh really and once again a massive damp
squib . I'd rather not have got me hopes up in the first place than go
through all this again.

On Dec 31, 3:17*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:

Nope overall a load of tosh and slosh really and once again a massive damp
squib . I'd rather not have got me hopes up in the first place than go
through all this again.- Hide quoted text -


If there's one thing you can guarantee about a cold spell, it's people
calling it a "damp squib" before it's even happened. )

Yes, it rained with 850s at around -2C, hardly a surprise. We all new
there was going to be a less cold interlude between Christmas and New
Year. However in 48 hours' time the upper air will be at least 5
degrees colder than it is now, and will stay at least that cold for
the best part of a week.

I'm not sure I would agree that the UKMO charts are backing off cold
conditions... http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif
That still shows thicknesses well below 520dam across the vast
majority of the UK.

Define "deep cold".
-18 C in Scotland is pretty darn cold. Oh wait Scotland does not
really exist, apologies to Alex Jr......

temps about 1 - 4c for most of us next week with "wintry showers"

yeah, deep cold. just what ecmf promised eh?

oh and we all live in the highlands, i forget.


MahFL wrote:
Define "deep cold".
-18 C in Scotland is pretty darn cold. Oh wait Scotland does not
really exist, apologies to Alex Jr......

"MahFL" wrote in message
...
Define "deep cold".
-18 C in Scotland is pretty darn cold. Oh wait Scotland does not
really exist, apologies to Alex Jr......

Don't get me started lol.
With an average December temperature of +0.0ºC in this part of central
lowlands, frost every day for three weeks and total snow cover largely
greater than 6 inches for over 2 weeks and minor roads with several inches
of ice this has already been an unquestionably and definitive VERY cold
period, nevermind snap or spell for at least a part of the UK. The squib was
loud indeed, we'll need to wait though in order to see if it was Dynamite or
Nuclear. Perhaps the shockwaves have yet to reach the Watford gap!
Alex.

In article ,
Terry Tibbs writes:

looks the like the deep cold is not going to make it


That's not my interpretation at all - see below.


UK Outlook for Tuesday 5 Jan 2010 to Thursday 14 Jan 2010:
The middle part of next week and the following weekend will be cold in
all parts. There will be some hard overnight frosts, with a risk of
patchy freezing fog. Southern and western parts should be mainly dry
and sunny, although there is the risk of some occasional wintry
showers. However, wintry showers will be heavier and more frequent in
the north and east where some significant falls are possible.

Whoever put that together seems to have an aversion to the word "snow".
I don't think many, if any. of those showers will be of rain or sleet.

There is also a low risk of a spell of wintry weather in the south for
a time at the end of next week.

By "wintry weather" I assume that they mean snow.

The further outlook will continue much the same although it may become
a little less cold.

All they are saying is that it may become a little less cold from about
Saturday 9th.

Some more persistent rain, sleet or snow might spread into the west or
southwest later.

Which obviously implies that it will still be pretty cold.


Updated: 1139 on Thu 31 Dec 2009

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