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?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they started
as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The first post
can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...689173fc?pli=1

Thank you to all readers over the years!

Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Tuesday.
Issued 0501, 10th December 2010

The models are split today. GFS keeps things much as it has for days, with a
strong NW'ly flow over the UK during the latter half of the week and an
increasing risk of snow both from showers over exposed coastal areas and
from troughs moving south. ECM offers an alternate solution, with the
original blocking high moving west and a new high setting up in the vicinity
of Scandinavia, with cold easterlies setting in (and an increasing risk of
snow in the east). Either way will bring cold weather for the UK, but the
areas affected by snow would be different in each case. At the moment the
GFS scenario has the most support model-wise but it wouldn't be out of the
question that ECM ends up being correct.

Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS
Westerlies cover the UK, with high pressure to the south and southwest of
the UK. Tomorrow the high rotates, bringing light winds to Wales, Northern
Ireland and SW England. Elsewhere winds are WNW'lies, followed by NNW'lies
for most on Sunday as the high declines to the NW. The high builds again on
Monday, moving to cover Scotland. Northern Ireland lies under SE'lies as a
result, with NE'lies elsewhere.

T+120 synopsis
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn12014.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn1201.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rukm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Recm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rjma1201.gif
The jetstream chart shows a diffluent block over the Atlantic with the UK on
the warm side of the jet. The jet is exceptionally strong over the Canadian
Arctic and Greenland. At the 500hPa level there's an elongated high
stretching from Greenland SE'wards towards the UK, with a trough over the SE
of the UK. The upper flow is NNE'ly as a result, whereas MetO shows
northerlies aloft with a ridge to the west. ECM shows upper northerlies too,
with an upper ridge west of Ireland. GEM shows an upper trough over the UK,
with cyclonic northerlies aloft. JMA has NW'lies aloft with an upper high to
the NW rather than a simple ridge to the west.
At the surface, GFS brings northerlies with a large high to the WNW.
Southern England lies under NE'lies due to a shallow low over France. MetO
has NNW'lies for all with a high to the west, while ECM has a high over
Ireland and NNW'lies over the UK. GEM brings light winds due to a col, while
JMA has a col over England and Wales and northerlies elsewhere.

Evolution to T+168
ECM shows high pressure over England and Wales on day 6, leading to SW'lies
elsewhere. Day 7 sees southerlies for all as the high moves eastwards.
GFS has NW'lies over the UK on day 6 as pressure remains high to the NW.
There are further NW'lies on day 7.

Looking further afield
On day 8 ECM brings SE'lies as pressure builds strongly over Scandinavia.
The winds become ENE'lies on day 9 as the high continues to build and on day
10 NE'lies and ENE'lies cover the UK as the high builds to over 1055hPa west
of Scandinavia.
Day 8 with GFS brings yet more NW'lies as pressure remains high to the west
and NW. A trough moves southwards on day 9 and on day 10 low pressure lies
to the south, with easterlies and NE'lies over the UK.

Ensemble analysis
http://www.meteociel.com/cartes_obs/...&ville=Londres
The GEFS continues to show a milder weekend followed by prolonged cold.

ECM ensembles
http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/meteo/ep...tt6-london.gif
The ECM ensembles haven't updated since yesterday morning.



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"Darren Prescott" wrote in message
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?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they started
as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The first post
can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...689173fc?pli=1

Thank you to all readers over the years!






Oh well done Darren, and a BIG thank you.
Best wishes for the future.
--
Bernard Burton

Wokingham Berkshire.

Weather data and satellite images at:
www.woksat.info/wwp.html


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Again thank you Darren, a must read with coffee and toast. Christmas
greetings from a balmy Midlands, 3.7C at 0830

JT

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In article , Darren Prescott
writes
?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they started
as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The first post
can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...d/thread/61736
19c8ededbe/5cea7c71689173fc?pli=1

Thank you to all readers over the years!


It's us who need to thank you, Darren. Your daily posts are one of the
first things I read each morning.

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Darren Prescott wrote:
?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they
started as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The
first post can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...689173fc?pli=1


Thank you to all readers over the years!

Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Tuesday.
Issued 0501, 10th December 2010

The models are split today. GFS keeps things much as it has for days,
with a strong NW'ly flow over the UK during the latter half of the week
and an increasing risk of snow both from showers over exposed coastal
areas and from troughs moving south. ECM offers an alternate solution,
with the original blocking high moving west and a new high setting up in
the vicinity of Scandinavia, with cold easterlies setting in (and an
increasing risk of snow in the east). Either way will bring cold weather
for the UK, but the areas affected by snow would be different in each
case. At the moment the GFS scenario has the most support model-wise but
it wouldn't be out of the question that ECM ends up being correct.

Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS
Westerlies cover the UK, with high pressure to the south and southwest
of the UK. Tomorrow the high rotates, bringing light winds to Wales,
Northern Ireland and SW England. Elsewhere winds are WNW'lies, followed
by NNW'lies for most on Sunday as the high declines to the NW. The high
builds again on Monday, moving to cover Scotland. Northern Ireland lies
under SE'lies as a result, with NE'lies elsewhere.

T+120 synopsis
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn12014.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn1201.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rukm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Recm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rjma1201.gif
The jetstream chart shows a diffluent block over the Atlantic with the
UK on the warm side of the jet. The jet is exceptionally strong over the
Canadian Arctic and Greenland. At the 500hPa level there's an elongated
high stretching from Greenland SE'wards towards the UK, with a trough
over the SE of the UK. The upper flow is NNE'ly as a result, whereas
MetO shows northerlies aloft with a ridge to the west. ECM shows upper
northerlies too, with an upper ridge west of Ireland. GEM shows an upper
trough over the UK, with cyclonic northerlies aloft. JMA has NW'lies
aloft with an upper high to the NW rather than a simple ridge to the west.
At the surface, GFS brings northerlies with a large high to the WNW.
Southern England lies under NE'lies due to a shallow low over France.
MetO has NNW'lies for all with a high to the west, while ECM has a high
over Ireland and NNW'lies over the UK. GEM brings light winds due to a
col, while JMA has a col over England and Wales and northerlies elsewhere.

Evolution to T+168
ECM shows high pressure over England and Wales on day 6, leading to
SW'lies elsewhere. Day 7 sees southerlies for all as the high moves
eastwards.
GFS has NW'lies over the UK on day 6 as pressure remains high to the NW.
There are further NW'lies on day 7.

Looking further afield
On day 8 ECM brings SE'lies as pressure builds strongly over
Scandinavia. The winds become ENE'lies on day 9 as the high continues to
build and on day 10 NE'lies and ENE'lies cover the UK as the high builds
to over 1055hPa west of Scandinavia.
Day 8 with GFS brings yet more NW'lies as pressure remains high to the
west and NW. A trough moves southwards on day 9 and on day 10 low
pressure lies to the south, with easterlies and NE'lies over the UK.

Ensemble analysis
http://www.meteociel.com/cartes_obs/...&ville=Londres

The GEFS continues to show a milder weekend followed by prolonged cold.

ECM ensembles
http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/meteo/ep...tt6-london.gif
The ECM ensembles haven't updated since yesterday morning.


-------------------
Blimey, have we been here that long! Anyway, thanks as usual
for the brilliant reports which are the first read of the morning.
Cheers,
Dave
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On Dec 10, 8:46*am, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Darren Prescott wrote:
?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they
started as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The
first post can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...read/thread/61...


Thank you to all readers over the years!


Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Tuesday.
Issued 0501, 10th December 2010


The models are split today. GFS keeps things much as it has for days,
with a strong NW'ly flow over the UK during the latter half of the week
and an increasing risk of snow both from showers over exposed coastal
areas and from troughs moving south. ECM offers an alternate solution,
with the original blocking high moving west and a new high setting up in
the vicinity of Scandinavia, with cold easterlies setting in (and an
increasing risk of snow in the east). Either way will bring cold weather
for the UK, but the areas affected by snow would be different in each
case. At the moment the GFS scenario has the most support model-wise but
it wouldn't be out of the question that ECM ends up being correct.


Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS
Westerlies cover the UK, with high pressure to the south and southwest
of the UK. Tomorrow the high rotates, bringing light winds to Wales,
Northern Ireland and SW England. Elsewhere winds are WNW'lies, followed
by NNW'lies for most on Sunday as the high declines to the NW. The high
builds again on Monday, moving to cover Scotland. Northern Ireland lies
under SE'lies as a result, with NE'lies elsewhere.


T+120 synopsis
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn12014.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn1201.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rukm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Recm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rjma1201.gif
The jetstream chart shows a diffluent block over the Atlantic with the
UK on the warm side of the jet. The jet is exceptionally strong over the
Canadian Arctic and Greenland. At the 500hPa level there's an elongated
high stretching from Greenland SE'wards towards the UK, with a trough
over the SE of the UK. The upper flow is NNE'ly as a result, whereas
MetO shows northerlies aloft with a ridge to the west. ECM shows upper
northerlies too, with an upper ridge west of Ireland. GEM shows an upper
trough over the UK, with cyclonic northerlies aloft. JMA has NW'lies
aloft with an upper high to the NW rather than a simple ridge to the west.
At the surface, GFS brings northerlies with a large high to the WNW.
Southern England lies under NE'lies due to a shallow low over France.
MetO has NNW'lies for all with a high to the west, while ECM has a high
over Ireland and NNW'lies over the UK. GEM brings light winds due to a
col, while JMA has a col over England and Wales and northerlies elsewhere.


Evolution to T+168
ECM shows high pressure over England and Wales on day 6, leading to
SW'lies elsewhere. Day 7 sees southerlies for all as the high moves
eastwards.
GFS has NW'lies over the UK on day 6 as pressure remains high to the NW..
There are further NW'lies on day 7.


Looking further afield
On day 8 ECM brings SE'lies as pressure builds strongly over
Scandinavia. The winds become ENE'lies on day 9 as the high continues to
build and on day 10 NE'lies and ENE'lies cover the UK as the high builds
to over 1055hPa west of Scandinavia.
Day 8 with GFS brings yet more NW'lies as pressure remains high to the
west and NW. A trough moves southwards on day 9 and on day 10 low
pressure lies to the south, with easterlies and NE'lies over the UK.


Ensemble analysis
http://www.meteociel.com/cartes_obs/...t=1&x=306&y=14...


The GEFS continues to show a milder weekend followed by prolonged cold.


ECM ensembles
http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/meteo/ep...tt6-london.gif
The ECM ensembles haven't updated since yesterday morning.


-------------------
Blimey, have we been here that long! Anyway, thanks as usual
for the brilliant reports which are the first read of the morning.
Cheers,
Dave


Thanks Darren, we all must be getting on a bit!

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"


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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:06:35 -0000, "Darren Prescott"
wrote:

?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they started
as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The first post
can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...689173fc?pli=1

Thank you to all readers over the years!

Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Tuesday.
Issued 0501, 10th December 2010

The models are split today. GFS keeps things much as it has for days, with a
strong NW'ly flow over the UK during the latter half of the week and an
increasing risk of snow both from showers over exposed coastal areas and
from troughs moving south. ECM offers an alternate solution, with the
original blocking high moving west and a new high setting up in the vicinity
of Scandinavia, with cold easterlies setting in (and an increasing risk of
snow in the east). Either way will bring cold weather for the UK, but the
areas affected by snow would be different in each case. At the moment the
GFS scenario has the most support model-wise but it wouldn't be out of the
question that ECM ends up being correct.

Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS
Westerlies cover the UK, with high pressure to the south and southwest of
the UK. Tomorrow the high rotates, bringing light winds to Wales, Northern
Ireland and SW England. Elsewhere winds are WNW'lies, followed by NNW'lies
for most on Sunday as the high declines to the NW. The high builds again on
Monday, moving to cover Scotland. Northern Ireland lies under SE'lies as a
result, with NE'lies elsewhere.

T+120 synopsis
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn12014.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn1201.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rukm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Recm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rjma1201.gif
The jetstream chart shows a diffluent block over the Atlantic with the UK on
the warm side of the jet. The jet is exceptionally strong over the Canadian
Arctic and Greenland. At the 500hPa level there's an elongated high
stretching from Greenland SE'wards towards the UK, with a trough over the SE
of the UK. The upper flow is NNE'ly as a result, whereas MetO shows
northerlies aloft with a ridge to the west. ECM shows upper northerlies too,
with an upper ridge west of Ireland. GEM shows an upper trough over the UK,
with cyclonic northerlies aloft. JMA has NW'lies aloft with an upper high to
the NW rather than a simple ridge to the west.
At the surface, GFS brings northerlies with a large high to the WNW.
Southern England lies under NE'lies due to a shallow low over France. MetO
has NNW'lies for all with a high to the west, while ECM has a high over
Ireland and NNW'lies over the UK. GEM brings light winds due to a col, while
JMA has a col over England and Wales and northerlies elsewhere.

Evolution to T+168
ECM shows high pressure over England and Wales on day 6, leading to SW'lies
elsewhere. Day 7 sees southerlies for all as the high moves eastwards.
GFS has NW'lies over the UK on day 6 as pressure remains high to the NW.
There are further NW'lies on day 7.

Looking further afield
On day 8 ECM brings SE'lies as pressure builds strongly over Scandinavia.
The winds become ENE'lies on day 9 as the high continues to build and on day
10 NE'lies and ENE'lies cover the UK as the high builds to over 1055hPa west
of Scandinavia.
Day 8 with GFS brings yet more NW'lies as pressure remains high to the west
and NW. A trough moves southwards on day 9 and on day 10 low pressure lies
to the south, with easterlies and NE'lies over the UK.

Ensemble analysis
http://www.meteociel.com/cartes_obs/...&ville=Londres
The GEFS continues to show a milder weekend followed by prolonged cold.

ECM ensembles
http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/meteo/ep...tt6-london.gif
The ECM ensembles haven't updated since yesterday morning.


Many thanks - read everyday

Andy

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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Darren Prescott wrote:
?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they
started as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The
first post can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...689173fc?pli=1
Thank you to all readers over the years!

Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Tuesday.
Issued 0501, 10th December 2010

The models are split today. GFS keeps things much as it has for days,
with a strong NW'ly flow over the UK during the latter half of the week
and an increasing risk of snow both from showers over exposed coastal
areas and from troughs moving south. ECM offers an alternate solution,
with the original blocking high moving west and a new high setting up in
the vicinity of Scandinavia, with cold easterlies setting in (and an
increasing risk of snow in the east). Either way will bring cold weather
for the UK, but the areas affected by snow would be different in each
case. At the moment the GFS scenario has the most support model-wise but
it wouldn't be out of the question that ECM ends up being correct.

Analysis and evolution to T+120 via GFS
Westerlies cover the UK, with high pressure to the south and southwest of
the UK. Tomorrow the high rotates, bringing light winds to Wales,
Northern Ireland and SW England. Elsewhere winds are WNW'lies, followed
by NNW'lies for most on Sunday as the high declines to the NW. The high
builds again on Monday, moving to cover Scotland. Northern Ireland lies
under SE'lies as a result, with NE'lies elsewhere.

T+120 synopsis
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn12014.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn1201.png
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rukm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Recm1201.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rjma1201.gif
The jetstream chart shows a diffluent block over the Atlantic with the UK
on the warm side of the jet. The jet is exceptionally strong over the
Canadian Arctic and Greenland. At the 500hPa level there's an elongated
high stretching from Greenland SE'wards towards the UK, with a trough
over the SE of the UK. The upper flow is NNE'ly as a result, whereas MetO
shows northerlies aloft with a ridge to the west. ECM shows upper
northerlies too, with an upper ridge west of Ireland. GEM shows an upper
trough over the UK, with cyclonic northerlies aloft. JMA has NW'lies
aloft with an upper high to the NW rather than a simple ridge to the
west.
At the surface, GFS brings northerlies with a large high to the WNW.
Southern England lies under NE'lies due to a shallow low over France.
MetO has NNW'lies for all with a high to the west, while ECM has a high
over Ireland and NNW'lies over the UK. GEM brings light winds due to a
col, while JMA has a col over England and Wales and northerlies
elsewhere.

Evolution to T+168
ECM shows high pressure over England and Wales on day 6, leading to
SW'lies elsewhere. Day 7 sees southerlies for all as the high moves
eastwards.
GFS has NW'lies over the UK on day 6 as pressure remains high to the NW.
There are further NW'lies on day 7.

Looking further afield
On day 8 ECM brings SE'lies as pressure builds strongly over Scandinavia.
The winds become ENE'lies on day 9 as the high continues to build and on
day 10 NE'lies and ENE'lies cover the UK as the high builds to over
1055hPa west of Scandinavia.
Day 8 with GFS brings yet more NW'lies as pressure remains high to the
west and NW. A trough moves southwards on day 9 and on day 10 low
pressure lies to the south, with easterlies and NE'lies over the UK.

Ensemble analysis
http://www.meteociel.com/cartes_obs/...&ville=Londres
The GEFS continues to show a milder weekend followed by prolonged cold.

ECM ensembles
http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/meteo/ep...tt6-london.gif
The ECM ensembles haven't updated since yesterday morning.


-------------------
Blimey, have we been here that long! Anyway, thanks as usual
for the brilliant reports which are the first read of the morning.
Cheers,
Dave


Thank you for the work you continue to put in Darren. It is very much
appreciated.

David



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Cheers Darren, its something I read everyday without fail.

regards
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In article ,
Darren Prescott writes:
?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they
started as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The
first post can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...ad/thread/6173
619c8ededbe/5cea7c71689173fc?pli=1

Thank you to all readers over the years!

snip

And thanks to you, Darren. Your work - and over such a long period too -
is much appreciated.
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
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My Thanks to you, almost the first post I look at.

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n Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:06:35 -0000, "Darren Prescott"
wrote:

?Today marks the 9th anniversary of these model discussions - they started
as a look at the chance of a snowy Christmas back in 2001. The first post
can be seen on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...689173fc?pli=1

Thank you to all readers over the years!

Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Tuesday.
Issued 0501, 10th December 2010




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