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Phil Layton writes:
It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...

Much easier to say :-(


Some of us are still struggling to forget inches of mercury.
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will hardly mind anything else."
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In article ,
Phil Layton writes:
It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...

Much easier to say :-(


Some of us are still struggling to forget inches of mercury.


Good grief! They went out in the Stone Age. I'm an SI man, Pascals (OK hecto
if you wish), Kelvin (OK C if you wish), Metres, Kg but I do like my wind
speeds in knots :-)

Will
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On Saturday 15 Jan 2011 09:54, Ian Bingham scribbled:


"Phil Layton" wrote in message
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It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...

Much easier to say :-(


And the motto of the powers-that-be is: if the man-in-the-street is
beginning to understand a technical term, invent a new one that he doesn't
understand.


At least hPa can't be confused with computer memory. ;-)

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On Saturday 15 Jan 2011 11:30, Will Hand scribbled:


"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
Phil Layton writes:
It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...

Much easier to say :-(


Some of us are still struggling to forget inches of mercury.


Good grief! They went out in the Stone Age. I'm an SI man, Pascals (OK
hecto if you wish), Kelvin (OK C if you wish), Metres, Kg but I do like my
wind speeds in knots :-)


The nautical mile and knot were very convenient units for an old rule-of-
thumb forecaster like myself. One nautical mile is one minute of latitude so
something moving at, say, 20 kts will move 2 degrees of latitude in six
hours.

(A rule-of-thumb forecaster is one who measures movement of features on a
chart with his thumb.)

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It was raining cats and dogs and I fell in a poodle. [Chic
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On Jan 15, 12:24*am, Jack Frost wrote:
On Jan 14, 10:01*pm, Phil Layton wrote:

It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...


Much easier to say :-(


Phil


And so it should! Everything should be in SI units. It peeves me off
when I'm reading research papers and constantly have to convert
between hPa, mb, atm, torr... Argh!


You'll never get me talking hectopascals and Celsius. It's
millibars and Centigrade and poo to the tidy little minds who insist
otherwise.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



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On Jan 15, 4:17*pm, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jan 15, 12:24*am, Jack Frost wrote:

On Jan 14, 10:01*pm, Phil Layton wrote:


It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...


Much easier to say :-(


Phil


And so it should! Everything should be in SI units. It peeves me off
when I'm reading research papers and constantly have to convert
between hPa, mb, atm, torr... Argh!


* * * * *You'll never get me talking hectopascals and Celsius. *It's
millibars and Centigrade and poo to the tidy little minds who insist
otherwise.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


I can't help but agree!
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:30:21 -0000, "Will Hand"
wrote:


"John Hall" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
Phil Layton writes:
It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...

Much easier to say :-(


Some of us are still struggling to forget inches of mercury.


Good grief! They went out in the Stone Age. I'm an SI man, Pascals (OK hecto
if you wish), Kelvin (OK C if you wish), Metres, Kg but I do like my wind
speeds in knots :-)

Will


m/s to knots is not so hard to do in your head.

Well I have been S.I. since aged 7 in the early 1970s so why do I
have work in miles, miles per hour etc.? More worryingly my 7 year
old knows her weight in stone and not kilos. Her height she knows in
centimetres.

Yes, I do drink in pints - but only in the UK - in the US the 16oz
pint is only about 5% short of 0.5 litres. Mind you some of the UK
pints I get poured for me are closer to 0.5 litres anyway!

cheers, Andy


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In article ,
Will Hand writes:

"John Hall" wrote in message news:JmXpkcHUHY
...
In article ,
Phil Layton writes:
It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...

Much easier to say :-(


Some of us are still struggling to forget inches of mercury.


Good grief! They went out in the Stone Age. I'm an SI man, Pascals (OK
hecto if you wish), Kelvin (OK C if you wish), Metres, Kg but I do like
my wind speeds in knots :-)

Will


I think that for weather purposes, Celsius has a big advantage over
Kelvin, in that the change from positive to negative values makes very
obvious an important attribute of the weather. A change from above to
below 273 hardly has the same impact. Also two digit values are easier
to handle than three digit ones.
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John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:30:21 -0000, "Will Hand"
wrote:


"John Hall" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
Phil Layton writes:
It looks like the aviation standard will become hectopascals before the
year is out...

Much easier to say :-(


Some of us are still struggling to forget inches of mercury.


Good grief! They went out in the Stone Age.


But merkin pilots still use inches (29.92" = 1013mb standard)

--
Geo


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