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On Jul 28, 7:40*pm, "Will Hand" wrote:
Anybody on here uploading their obs to the Met Office WOW site yet?
Haytor is up there.http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/


Yes I have one of the Ely sites (5691150) uploading automatically via
Weatherlink on 10min updates. Add-on is slightly buggy as yet so
occasional uploads missed, but probably time-outs on the DNS look-up
just need to be tweaked or worked around.

Hopefully I'll have another nearby one online at WOW automatically via
a WeatherlinkIP logger over the weekend.

John Dann
www.weatherstations.co.uk

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"Ken Cook" wrote in message ...

"Will Hand" wrote in message ...

Anybody on here uploading their obs to the Met Office WOW site yet?
Haytor is up there.
http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/

Hi, Will,
Not sure if Met O Climat. reporting sites need including, I'll let you know,
could be duplication, but it would be a good idea if Met O included them
anyway as there are lots with good, reliable obs. even if many are just one
ob at 09Z.

Hi, again,
Up and running, Copley and Copley Lead Mill. Just manual atm until I can
work out the AWS linking! There is a link on the website, though.
Ken

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Just manual atm until I can work out the AWS linking!


There are potentially two ways of doing an upload from the Weatherlink
software (in addition to entering observations manually that is). One is to
perform an upload of a WL archive file - you have to perform this upload
manually, but it obviously is a way of uploading a batch of records in one
go. If you're content to do this manually say once or twice a day then in
this sense WL is already compatible with WOW.

But if you want to upload 'current conditions' data frequently and
automatically, say hourly or every 10 mins then WL doesn't provide this
facility directly and as Will correctly says instead you need to use an
add-on. I've got a prototype (a native Windows application) here that does
just this but it needs to be tested further and made a bit more flexible as
yet.

John Dann
www.weatherstations.co.uk

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"Ken Cook" wrote in message
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Just manual atm until I can work out the AWS linking!


There are potentially two ways of doing an upload from the Weatherlink
software (in addition to entering observations manually that is). One is to
perform an upload of a WL archive file - you have to perform this upload
manually, but it obviously is a way of uploading a batch of records in one
go. If you're content to do this manually say once or twice a day then in
this sense WL is already compatible with WOW.

But if you want to upload 'current conditions' data frequently and
automatically, say hourly or every 10 mins then WL doesn't provide this
facility directly and as Will correctly says instead you need to use an
add-on. I've got a prototype (a native Windows application) here that does
just this but it needs to be tested further and made a bit more flexible as
yet.

Thanks, John,
I'll give the upload a go next week and wait for your prototype to tested
further for the second option.
Ken

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On Jul 29, 9:17*am, "Will Hand" wrote:
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Anybody on here uploading their obs to the Met Office WOW site yet?
Haytor is up there.
http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/


I guess the null response so far is that people aren't bothered. Ah well the
aim of the site was to provide the amateur observing community with a means
of having their obs displayed on a map and at the same time giving the Met
Office some information. I know Graham Easterling was interested in WOW at
one stage?

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Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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I'll look at it after my holiday out here http://www.tregarthens-hotel.co.uk/webcam-harbour.php
..

In the meantime, if anybody wants to know Penzance weather, check out
XCweather for the Heliport, or for Scilly
http://www.weatherlink.com/user/tape...main&headers=1
is more typical than the hill top airport.

Graham



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"Howard Neil" wrote in message
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On 29/07/2011 09:17, Will Hand wrote:

"Will Hand" wrote in message
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Anybody on here uploading their obs to the Met Office WOW site yet?
Haytor is up there.
http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/


I guess the null response so far is that people aren't bothered. Ah well
the aim of the site was to provide the amateur observing community with
a means of having their obs displayed on a map and at the same time
giving the Met Office some information. I know Graham Easterling was
interested in WOW at one stage?

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Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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I would be bothered but my software (Weather Station Data Logger) doesn't
seem to have the facility for WOW and, if I have to choose between my
software and WOW, I'll choose the software. After all, my site is already
on the internet.

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Hi Howard, if you are using Weatherlink, see my reply to Nick.
My site (as you know) is on the Net too (and will be expanded vastly next
year) but it is great to see ones obs mapped and there are graphing
facilities on WOW to compare against neighbouring sites which is
interesting in itself. At one stage I was concerned that putting data onto
WOW would divert traffic from my site, but it hasn't happened and you can
advertise your site on WOW anyway!
Before anybody asks I'm not getting paid for promoting WOW but I was on
the development/testing team along with one or two others on here.
Interfacing with Davis/Weatherlink is an acknowledged weakness which is
being worked on but there are workarounds.

Cheers,

Will
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Recent versions of Cumulus also supports WOW uploads.

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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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Anybody on here uploading their obs to the Met Office WOW site yet?
Haytor is up there.
http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/


I can only assume that there are no quality control checks going on
here because those readings are all over the place. My nearest station
is recording 26C whilst I'm at around 20C.
It's even worse in London where somebody is recording 34C but
not so many miles away it's only 17C.
Don't these people check their readings against local 'official'
stations before uploading to make sure they are at least reasonably
representative of their local area?
Really, I'd be embarassed to send in data like that.

As it stands, this site is a joke.
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"Col" wrote in message
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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Anybody on here uploading their obs to the Met Office WOW site yet?
Haytor is up there.
http://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/


I can only assume that there are no quality control checks going on
here because those readings are all over the place. My nearest station
is recording 26C whilst I'm at around 20C.
It's even worse in London where somebody is recording 34C but
not so many miles away it's only 17C.
Don't these people check their readings against local 'official'
stations before uploading to make sure they are at least reasonably
representative of their local area?
Really, I'd be embarassed to send in data like that.

As it stands, this site is a joke.


That is the worse I have seen it. There is meta data describing the quality
of the sites along the same lines as COL classification. However, the site
with 32C has the same classification as my site, 2 stars, which is not right
as mine is well exposed and accurate! I suspect the high temperature values
are those with thermos exposed to the sun with no shielding. in which case I
question why they are not 1 star stations?

Will
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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I suspect the high temperature values are those with thermos exposed to the
sun with no shielding. in which case I question why they are not 1 star
stations?


Isn't this bound to happen though if you rely only on self-certification as
to exposure for QC? (Not that the categorisation has been very well thought
through, I'd suggest, for amateur stations - it's over-rigorous in certain
respects, while not mentioning other important limitations.)

What's needed is proper (but automatic of course) QC of the values
submitted, much in the way that CWOP does for the US - this should be the
basis of the star rating. I did make this suggestion to the 'consultants'
during the planning phase for WOW, but it obviously hasn't made it into the
current beta. Maybe (hopefully) it will follow in due course.

John Dann
www.weatherstations.co.uk

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On 29/07/11 15:26, Aioe.org wrote:

"Ken Cook" wrote in message
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Just manual atm until I can work out the AWS linking!


There are potentially two ways of doing an upload from the Weatherlink
software (in addition to entering observations manually that is). One is
to perform an upload of a WL archive file - you have to perform this
upload manually, but it obviously is a way of uploading a batch of
records in one go. If you're content to do this manually say once or
twice a day then in this sense WL is already compatible with WOW.

But if you want to upload 'current conditions' data frequently and
automatically, say hourly or every 10 mins then WL doesn't provide this
facility directly and as Will correctly says instead you need to use an
add-on. I've got a prototype (a native Windows application) here that
does just this but it needs to be tested further and made a bit more
flexible as yet.

John Dann
www.weatherstations.co.uk


I've been using Weather Display for a number of years now. This can be
organised to send data to a website as often as you like. It uploads a
"Current" page for me every 15 minutes throughout the 24hrs. I would
expect this to be usable for sending data to WOW, possibly with some
fiddling to get the data into the right form.

Hugh

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