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Without drawing global warming into it, do you have an impression that
certain weather types, if any, in your area have become less frequent.
Until this week I would have said gales and that probably is still true to
a large extent. The lack of snow showers off the North Sea, particularly
any giving significant falls of snow and perhaps violent thunderstorms with
associated downpours and flash flooding are the most significant here.
Dave, S.Essex


Down here in Winchester I would say *fog is almost non-existent nowadays.

Tony


Isn't a lot of the reason for lack of fog due to cleaner air. Even
Chuck Berry knew that when he sang ' No Particulate Place to Go'

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On 05/01/12 16:39, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Without drawing global warming into it, do you have an impression that
certain weather types, if any, in your area have become less frequent.
Until this week I would have said gales and that probably is still true
to a large extent. The lack of snow showers off the North Sea,
particularly any giving significant falls of snow and perhaps violent
thunderstorms with associated downpours and flash flooding are the most
significant here.

Dave, S.Essex


Easterlies/North Easterlies in winter (probably related to the lack of
snow showers off the North Sea).
Summer thunderstorms.

You are right about gales, storminess around Europe has been trending
down over the last 20 years.

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On Jan 5, 4:39*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Without drawing global warming into it, do you have an impression that
certain weather types, if any, in your area have become less frequent.
Until this week I would have said gales and that probably is still true
to a large extent. The lack of snow showers off the North Sea,
particularly any giving significant falls of snow and perhaps violent
thunderstorms with associated downpours and flash flooding are the most
significant here.

Dave, S.Essex


summer storms rumbling up from France undercover of night that we used
to get in the 80s just don't seem to happen anymore. Also proper clear
nights that give thick frosts, giving a covering of rime on
playgrounds that kids can slide on. These days every time a high
pressure system becomes established it seems to quickly fill with low
cloud
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Scott W wrote:
On Jan 5, 4:39 pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Without drawing global warming into it, do you have an impression that
certain weather types, if any, in your area have become less frequent.
Until this week I would have said gales and that probably is still true
to a large extent. The lack of snow showers off the North Sea,
particularly any giving significant falls of snow and perhaps violent
thunderstorms with associated downpours and flash flooding are the most
significant here.

Dave, S.Essex


summer storms rumbling up from France undercover of night that we used
to get in the 80s just don't seem to happen anymore. Also proper clear
nights that give thick frosts, giving a covering of rime on
playgrounds that kids can slide on. These days every time a high
pressure system becomes established it seems to quickly fill with low
cloud

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I've found that fascinating how most people's perceptions are similar
with the same things cropping up. We're probably not imagining it then
and not making nostalgia tainted observations.
Dave
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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Without drawing global warming into it, do you have an impression that
certain weather types, if any, in your area have become less frequent.
Until this week I would have said gales and that probably is still true to
a large extent. The lack of snow showers off the North Sea, particularly
any giving significant falls of snow and perhaps violent thunderstorms
with associated downpours and flash flooding are the most significant
here.

Dave, S.Essex


Fog (and freezing fog) definitely. I remember the smogs of the 50's - in a
charabanc bound for an ice pantomime featuring Norman Wisdom in (maybe)
1953 - yellow smog so thick in London that I could not see the end of the
bonnet! But also in the early seventies country fog seemed more common. I
remember droving home to Yately and could not see the white line at the edge
of the road - very scary (especially for my lady) - can't remember that
density of fog happening since.

Also much less thunder - and less thundery outbreaks up from France.

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Isn't a lot of the reason for lack of fog due to cleaner air. Even
Chuck Berry knew that when he sang ' No Particulate Place to Go'


In urban areas, certainly. But even in rural areas there seems to have
been a reduction, though not so great as in big conurbations.
--
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by those who have not got it."
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In article
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Isn't a lot of the reason for lack of fog due to cleaner air. Even
Chuck Berry knew that when he sang ' No Particulate Place to Go'


In urban areas, certainly. But even in rural areas there seems to have
been a reduction, though not so great as in big conurbations.


We still get plenty of hill fog John with visibilities less than 10 metres.

Will
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On Jan 5, 6:03 pm, "Tony Kenyon"
wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Without drawing global warming into it, do you have an impression that
certain weather types, if any, in your area have become less frequent.
Until this week I would have said gales and that probably is still true
to
a large extent. The lack of snow showers off the North Sea, particularly
any giving significant falls of snow and perhaps violent thunderstorms
with
associated downpours and flash flooding are the most significant here.
Dave, S.Essex


Down here in Winchester I would say fog is almost non-existent nowadays.

Tony


Isn't a lot of the reason for lack of fog due to cleaner air. Even
Chuck Berry knew that when he sang ' No Particulate Place to Go'


Very good Lawrence although I am talking about post the clean air act.

Tony

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On Jan 5, 4:39*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Without drawing global warming into it, do you have an impression that
certain weather types, if any, in your area have become less frequent.
Until this week I would have said gales and that probably is still true
to a large extent. The lack of snow showers off the North Sea,
particularly any giving significant falls of snow and perhaps violent
thunderstorms with associated downpours and flash flooding are the most
significant here.


Night-time French thunderstorm imports in S/SE England - a regular
staple of summertime fear for me when growing up in the 1980s !

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In message , Dave Cornwell
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Without drawing global warming into it, do you have an impression that
certain weather types, if any, in your area have become less frequent.
Until this week I would have said gales and that probably is still true
to a large extent. The lack of snow showers off the North Sea,
particularly any giving significant falls of snow and perhaps violent
thunderstorms with associated downpours and flash flooding are the most
significant here.

Dave, S.Essex


Fog. I used to associated lowland fog with autumn (though I have a
couple of recollections of thick fog rolling on off the Solway in 60's
summers). Nowadays, fog is associated with the 6th of November.

But the distribution of fog can be highly localised. Where I now live is
poorly placed for radiation fog in cold pools and for orogenic fog on
rising ground.

There also seems to be a lot less snow lying on high ground in spring
and autumn. I used to expect snow at 2000 feet at Easter (in the Lake
District), at 2500 feet in Snowdonia (in early May) and at 3000 feet (in
early June) in the Scottish Highlands.
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