Well, quite astonishing really. Phil Hammond on the BBC Web weather
really unsure what is going to happen at T+72 hours. I sensed a doubt
that the mild air is even going to reach the SE, and he mentioned the
cold here lasting well into next week.

In fact tonights Northwood chart:
http://www.cincfleetwoc.com/HF-Fax/N..._1200_T120.png
doesnt have the front reaching the SE.

Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North Sea
which could bring snow to E areas on Friday evening
http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif

--
Phil
Guildford

On 01/02/2012 9:49 PM, Phil Layton wrote:
Well, quite astonishing really. Phil Hammond on the BBC Web weather
really unsure what is going to happen at T+72 hours. I sensed a doubt
that the mild air is even going to reach the SE, and he mentioned the
cold here lasting well into next week.


oh great, the s.e will get milder without any transitional snow now!

On Feb 1, 9:49*pm, Phil Layton wrote:
Well, quite astonishing really. Phil Hammond on the BBC Web weather
really unsure what is going to happen *at T+72 hours. I sensed a doubt
that the mild air is even going to reach the SE, and he mentioned the
cold here lasting well into next week.

In fact tonights Northwood chart:http://www.cincfleetwoc.com/HF-Fax/N..._AB_SurfacePro...
doesnt have the front reaching the SE.

Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North Sea
which could bring snow to E areas on Friday eveninghttp://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif

--
Phil
Guildford

absolutely fascinating, Phil. What chance the Azores high will
retrogress?

In article ,
Phil Layton writes:
Well, quite astonishing really. Phil Hammond on the BBC Web
weather really unsure what is going to happen at T+72 hours. I
sensed a doubt that the mild air is even going to reach the SE, and
he mentioned the cold here lasting well into next week.

In fact tonights Northwood chart:
http://www.cincfleetwoc.com/HF-Fax/N...ic/NEATL_AB_Su
rfacePrognosis_UNCL_1200_T120.png
doesnt have the front reaching the SE.

That looks very like today's 12Z ECMWF operational run with fronts
added.


Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North
Sea which could bring snow to E areas on Friday evening
http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif


As you say, interesting. Hopefully it will be enough to stop any more
toys being thrown out of prams regarding this cold spell.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

On Feb 1, 10:28*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
*Phil Layton writes:

Well, quite astonishing really. Phil Hammond on the BBC Web
weather really unsure what is going to happen *at T+72 hours. I
sensed a doubt that the mild air is even going to reach the SE, and
he mentioned the cold here lasting well into next week.

In fact tonights Northwood chart:
http://www.cincfleetwoc.com/HF-Fax/N...ic/NEATL_AB_Su
rfacePrognosis_UNCL_1200_T120.png
doesnt have the front reaching the SE.

That looks very like today's 12Z ECMWF operational run with fronts
added.



Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North
Sea which could bring snow to E areas on Friday evening
http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif

As you say, interesting. Hopefully it will be enough to stop any more
toys being thrown out of prams regarding this cold spell.
--
John Hall
* * * * * * *"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
* * * * * * * by those who have not got it."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * George Bernard Shaw

And what's so wrong with throwing toys out of the pram John ?

On Feb 1, 9:49*pm, Phil Layton wrote:
Well, quite astonishing really. Phil Hammond on the BBC Web weather
really unsure what is going to happen *at T+72 hours. I sensed a doubt
that the mild air is even going to reach the SE, and he mentioned the
cold here lasting well into next week.

In fact tonights Northwood chart:http://www.cincfleetwoc.com/HF-Fax/N..._AB_SurfacePro...
doesnt have the front reaching the SE.

Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North Sea
which could bring snow to E areas on Friday eveninghttp://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif

--
Phil
Guildford

I have to say this is nail biting stuff.

John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Phil Layton writes:
Well, quite astonishing really. Phil Hammond on the BBC Web
weather really unsure what is going to happen at T+72 hours. I
sensed a doubt that the mild air is even going to reach the SE, and
he mentioned the cold here lasting well into next week.

In fact tonights Northwood chart:
http://www.cincfleetwoc.com/HF-Fax/N...ic/NEATL_AB_Su
rfacePrognosis_UNCL_1200_T120.png
doesnt have the front reaching the SE.

That looks very like today's 12Z ECMWF operational run with fronts
added.

Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North
Sea which could bring snow to E areas on Friday evening
http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif


As you say, interesting. Hopefully it will be enough to stop any more
toys being thrown out of prams regarding this cold spell.
-------------------------------
I must admit, with one exception, I haven't really seen any - yet!
Dave

Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North Sea
which could bring snow to E areas on Friday evening
http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif


-------------------------------
Yes, this seems to be firming up a bit now. Not sure if it will survive
the two days it has to though. Also on the 10.30pm forecast they seemed
a bit more bullish about the snow from the breakdown.
Dave

On Feb 1, 10:53*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North Sea
which could bring snow to E areas on Friday evening
http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif

-------------------------------
Yes, this seems to be firming up a bit now. Not sure if it will survive
the two days it has to though. Also on the 10.30pm forecast they seemed
a bit more bullish about the snow from the breakdown.
Dave

The GFS seems to reinforce the trend that now delays that breakdown
with the snow/sleet/rain never even making it to our part of the
world.However, I have to commend UKMO who have held their hands up
and factually stated in numerous press releases that they really don't
know-even at this late stage , how the weekend will fare in terms of
who will be the final victor.

This is the Cold war all over again , The East v the West.

On Feb 1, 10:28*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
*Phil Layton writes:

Well, quite astonishing really. Phil Hammond on the BBC Web
weather really unsure what is going to happen *at T+72 hours. I
sensed a doubt that the mild air is even going to reach the SE, and
he mentioned the cold here lasting well into next week.

In fact tonights Northwood chart:
http://www.cincfleetwoc.com/HF-Fax/N...ic/NEATL_AB_Su
rfacePrognosis_UNCL_1200_T120.png
doesnt have the front reaching the SE.

That looks very like today's 12Z ECMWF operational run with fronts
added.



Of more interest, at even closer timescale is the Low in the North
Sea which could bring snow to E areas on Friday evening
http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/brack1a.gif

As you say, interesting. Hopefully it will be enough to stop any more
toys being thrown out of prams regarding this cold spell.
--
John Hall
* * * * * * *"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
* * * * * * * by those who have not got it."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * George Bernard Shaw

John, as Dave says there is a distinct lack of tantrum or
dissapoinment at the moment. So on the basis of that, I accuse you
Sir, of jumping on a pramwagon.