On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:57:08 +0100, MCC
wrote:

cupra wrote:

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...hit-wimbledon/

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!

I just wish there was some way that the Express could be made to publish
that article with as much emphasis as was given to the original misleading
story.

Perhaps this will be one of the outcomes of the Leveson enquiry? I
hope so, anyway.

The Met Office would of course first have to make a formal complaint
to whatever Press Standards body emerges from it, because the Express
would as usual (like most other newspapers) try to ignore a direct
complaint. And in cases like this, the Met Office certainly should do
that, in my opinion.

--
Dave
Fareham

On Jun 27, 3:03*am, Dave Ludlow
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:57:08 +0100, MCC
wrote:

cupra wrote:

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...e-in-the-news-....

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!

I just wish there was some way that the Express could be made to publish
that article with as much emphasis as was given to the original misleading
story.

Perhaps this will be one of the outcomes of the Leveson enquiry? I
hope so, anyway.

The Met Office would of course first have to make a formal complaint
to whatever Press Standards body emerges from it, because the Express
would as usual (like most other newspapers) *try to ignore a direct
complaint. *And in cases like this, the Met Office certainly should do
that, in my opinion.

What the Met Office should do is stop hiding.
I have never seen a site supposedly helping the general public being
so difficult to navigate.

Here is an example from thier web page:

What data is available?

The following datasets are available in XML and JSON format:
UK locations 3 hourly forecast from Day zero to Day five
UK locations daily forecast from Day zero to Day five
UK locations hourly observations for the last 24 hours
UK locations site details

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/ddc/

And here is where it gets you:

http://data.gov.uk/

From there you can find out about Scottish bus stops and what coins
you might use on the buses:

I kid you not:

Linked data is data in which real-world things are given addresses on
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formats at those locations. Other datasets can then point to those
things using their URIs, which means that people using the data can
find out more about something without that information being copied
into the original dataset. This page lists the sectors for which we
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Ordnance Survey Ordnance Survey have released a number of their
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Code Point® Open
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Finance COINS is available as linked data in a beta version. We are
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SPARQL Endpoint provided by TSO
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Further Information
SPARQL page on data.gov.uk
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Using SPARQL Endpoints provided by Talis
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Environment For examples of environment Linked Data Including the
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Additional data will be made available throughout the year.

Note: These data are also available in single CSV format files from
data.gov.uk

On Jun 27, 7:06*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jun 27, 3:03*am, Dave Ludlow
wrote:









On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:57:08 +0100, MCC
wrote:

cupra wrote:

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...e-in-the-news-....

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!

I just wish there was some way that the Express could be made to publish
that article with as much emphasis as was given to the original misleading
story.

Perhaps this will be one of the outcomes of the Leveson enquiry? I
hope so, anyway.

The Met Office would of course first have to make a formal complaint
to whatever Press Standards body emerges from it, because the Express
would as usual (like most other newspapers) *try to ignore a direct
complaint. *And in cases like this, the Met Office certainly should do
that, in my opinion.

What the Met Office should do is stop hiding.
I have never seen a site supposedly helping the general public being
so difficult to navigate.

Here is an example from thier web page:

What data is available?

The following datasets are available in XML and JSON format:
UK locations 3 hourly forecast from Day zero to Day five
UK locations daily forecast from Day zero to Day five
UK locations hourly observations for the last 24 hours
UK locations site details

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/ddc/

And here is where it gets you:

http://data.gov.uk/

From there you can find out about Scottish bus stops and what coins
you might use on the buses:

I kid you not:

Linked data is data in which real-world things are given addresses on
the web (URIs), and data is published about them in machine-readable
formats at those locations. Other datasets can then point to those
things using their URIs, which means that people using the data can
find out more about something without that information being copied
into the original dataset. This page lists the sectors for which we
currently publish linked data and some additional resources that will
help you to use it. Most sectors have one or more SPARQL endpoints,
which enable you to perform searches across the data; you can access
these interactively on this site. Reference Reference data covers the
central working of government, including organisational structures
where these have been made available as RDF. Browse
Visualisation
Government Departments
Other Public Bodies
Ministers
Members of Parliament
Members of the House of Lords
Companies House
*Search
SPARQL Endpoint provided by Talis
Search provided by Talis
SPARQL Endpoint provided by TSO
*Ordnance Survey Ordnance Survey have released a number of their
products as linked data, including postcode units and administrative
areas. Browse
Ordnance Survey Linked Data
*Datasets
1:50,000 Scale Gazetteer
Code Point® Open
*Search
SPARQL Endpoint provided by Talis
Search provided by Talis
SPARQL Endpoint provided by TSO
*Transport Transport data covers the transport infrastructure and data
about traffic flow. Note: the data provided here dates from March
2010. Browse
Train Stations
Bus Stops
Airports
Ferry Terminals
Motorways
All Roads
Count Points
*Datasets
NPTG
NaPTAN
*Search
SPARQL Endpoint provided by Talis
Search provided by Talis
SPARQL Endpoint provided by TSO
*Guides
Guide to SPARQLing Transport Data
*Legislation Legislation data is provided by legislation.gov.uk.
Browse
UK Legislation
Scottish Legislation
Welsh Legislation
Northern Ireland Legislation
*Search
Advanced Search
SPARQL Endpoint provided by TSO
*Guides
Legislation.gov.uk API
Background on legislation.gov.uk
Developer Documentation
*Finance COINS is available as linked data in a beta version. We are
working on providing an API onto this data, but for now only the
SPARQL endpoint is available. Search
SPARQL Endpoint provided by TSO
*Datasets
COINS
*Further Information
SPARQL page on data.gov.uk
SPARQL Wiki page on data.gov.uk
Using SPARQL Endpoints provided by Talis
Using SPARQL Endpoints provided by TSO
SPARQL by Example
SPARQL Tutorial
*Environment For examples of environment Linked Data Including the
Environment Agency's Linked Data pilots Seehttp://environment.data.gov.uk/lab/

Additional data will be made available throughout the year.

Note: These data are also available in single CSV format files from
data.gov.uk

Perhaps if the Met Office were accessible instead of hidden away
behind the Exit Door they might have a case against the paper.

I imagine that wherever they got the information it was a little
closer to home or at least one might find what one was looking for on
their website?

If only the Daily Express was living in the same century the
Meteorological office is in, they could have written them a letter
asking for the relevant information.

Or perhaps they did and it got lost in the post?

Here is what their search engine turns up for the terms:
"long range forecast"

http://search.metoffice.gov.uk/kb5/m...&button=Search

Ah, perhaps this explains it?

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...alidator%2F1.3

In article ,
MCC writes:
cupra wrote:

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...office-in-the-
news-tropical-storms-to-hit-wimbledon/

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!

I just wish there was some way that the Express could be made to publish
that article with as much emphasis as was given to the original misleading
story.

I wonder why the Express keeps on publishing these stories. Surely all
but the most slow-witted of their readers must have noticed by now that
these "forecasts" almost never prove to be correct. All the Express is
doing is harming its own credibility.
--
John Hall
Johnson: "Well, we had a good talk."
Boswell: "Yes, Sir, you tossed and gored several persons."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84); James Boswell (1740-95)

"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
MCC writes:
cupra wrote:

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...office-in-the-
news-tropical-storms-to-hit-wimbledon/

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!

I just wish there was some way that the Express could be made to publish
that article with as much emphasis as was given to the original misleading
story.

I wonder why the Express keeps on publishing these stories. Surely all
but the most slow-witted of their readers must have noticed by now that
these "forecasts" almost never prove to be correct. All the Express is
doing is harming its own credibility.

People just forget I guess.
Or if something bad is predicted which doesn't happen they
are pleased by that, without ever thinking what an incorrect
forcast it was in the first place.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:49:52 PM UTC+1, cupra (away) wrote:
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...hit-wimbledon/

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!

George Monbiot in the Grauniad has another article about this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...onathan-powell

MartinR

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:04:41 +0100, Col wrote:

All the Express is doing is harming its own credibility.

It's a tabloid, has any tabloid got any credibility to lose? Come to that do
any newspapers have any credibilty, the FT perhaps?

People just forget I guess. Or if something bad is predicted which
doesn't happen they are pleased by that, without ever thinking what an
incorrect forcast it was in the first place.

Feel good pap for the masses.

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.

Roger Smith scrive:

cupra wrote:
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...e-in-the-news-
tropical-storms-to-hit-wimbledon/

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!

This prompts me to ask a question that I have been meaning to ask for
some time - what is a "feels like" temperature and how is it measured?

Roger

There are calculators for wind chill and heat index on the software page
of my website. They are 'windows only' for which I, as a Linux user, can
only apologise.

--
Gianna
Peterhead, Scotland

buchan-meteo.org.uk

John Hall wrote:
In article ,
cupra writes:
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...office-in-the-
news-tropical-storms-to-hit-wimbledon/

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!

Yes, good on 'em indeed.
--------------------------------
Indeed, the Met Office get it wrong sometimes but for the right reasons,
if you know what I mean, A bit annoying when they don't make enough of
changes to their previous forecasts but at least they don't make it up
for a money making scam.
Dave

John Hall wrote:
In article ,
MCC writes:
cupra wrote:

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...office-in-the-
news-tropical-storms-to-hit-wimbledon/

Looks like the straw that broke the camel's back, good on 'em!
I just wish there was some way that the Express could be made to publish
that article with as much emphasis as was given to the original misleading
story.

I wonder why the Express keeps on publishing these stories. Surely all
but the most slow-witted of their readers must have noticed by now that
these "forecasts" almost never prove to be correct. All the Express is
doing is harming its own credibility.
-----------------------------------------
John, I think it is the credibility of the Met Office that gets damaged
as stated. I also think you have seriously under estimated the
slow-wittedness of their readers ;-)
Dave