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Temperature back up to 22.3C and 88% humidity. Very sticky and uncomfortable now.

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Temperature back up to 22.3C and 88% humidity. Very sticky and
uncomfortable now.

Mike

www.dudleyweather.co.uk


Tell me about it, just decided it would be a really good idea to have a walk
into Dudley, wish I hadn't now, it's near unbearable for me out there now.
Glad I'm back home to be honest.
The rain/thunder this area had this morning had also made it into the Daily
Wail.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nderstorm.html

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 at 05:14:10, Michael Di Bernardo
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

Absolutely awful conditions across the area, flash flooding in many
areas. Checking my records, 2 new ones have been set. Highest rain
rate was recorded with 1080mm /hr


That's 42.5 inches an hour - really??
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On Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:39:29 PM UTC+1, Paul Hyett wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 at 05:14:10, Michael Di Bernardo
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

Absolutely awful conditions across the area, flash flooding in many
areas. Checking my records, 2 new ones have been set. Highest rain
rate was recorded with 1080mm /hr


That's 42.5 inches an hour - really??
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Yeah, typo. 180mm /hr

Mike

www.dudleyweather.co.uk


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On Jun 28, 6:09*pm, Michael Di Bernardo
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On Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:39:29 PM UTC+1, Paul Hyett wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 at 05:14:10, Michael Di Bernardo
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Absolutely awful conditions across the area, flash flooding in many
areas. *Checking my records, 2 new ones have been set. *Highest rain
rate was recorded with 1080mm /hr


That's 42.5 inches an hour - really??
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Yeah, typo. 180mm /hr

Mike

www.dudleyweather.co.uk


Phew!

That's a relief.

On a 0.2mm tipping bucket 1080mm/hour would be one tip every 0.67
seconds (approx).

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"Simon Wyndham" wrote in message
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Its a big storm and its heading your way!

Just clipped past Malvern. Seemed to be mostly over in Herefordshire, but
what I could hear was continuous thunder (no breaks in the sound). We got
a few heavy rumbles here with some rain, but nothing like what it looked
like they were getting furter west.

Surprised nobody from that direction has made any comment yet. It looked
extremely intense.

Simon

On 2012-06-28 10:00:48 +0100, Michael Di Bernardo said:

Very dark overhead with one or two flashes of lightning. Very muggy
and temperatures around 19C for the past hour.

Could go either way at the moment, either a massive storm or either
fizzle out. Pleased to see my station forcasting software picked up
the storm though 2 days ago.

Mike


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It appears that this whole area of storms was 'born' over the Malvern Hills
& North Cotswolds before around 09:00 hrs. As I left home in Malvern to
drive to work in Swindon this morning between 06:30 and 07:30, there were
short outbreaks of moderate rain from medium level cloud but it appeared
then along with the 06:30 Hereford & Worcester local weather forecast that
it would be an improving situation during the morning.

However, between 06:45 and 07:00 driving down the M5 towards Gloucester, I
noticed through the then broken cloud, extensive areas of AC Cast to the
West towards the Malvern Hills and as I went over Birdlip just after 07:00
hrs, it was becoming very gloomy but no current rain.

By 09:30 hrs or so, I had a text from my partner in Malvern as she just got
back from walking her dog saying that a severe T/storm had broken out in
situ over Malvern with no warning other than some heavy rain before hand.
Remotely monitoring my own weather station via Wunderground showed the Solar
radiation level had dropped to very low levels at this time and increasing
rain intensity. Analysis of local lightning data from an adjacent Malvern
Wells weather station who uses a Boltek showed a massive area of active
T/Storms from the Hereford/Worcester to Cotswolds area which over time moved
onwards and expanded to the north.

The rest as they say............

There was nothing in Swindon, just a hot, humid day with a fairly strong S
wind.

My own records showed only 8 mm of rain but with a peak intensity of 60
mm/hr at 10:00 hrs. Further to the North towards N E Worcester, other PWS's
were showing up to 15 mm rain.

The first time I've observed 'combined activity' over the Cotswolds and
Malverns merging and leading to an area of rapidly expanding severe weather
in Summer since the late July ending of the June/July heatwave in 2006.

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Malvern, S Worcs, 43m asl.

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Pete B wrote:
"Simon Wyndham" wrote in message
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Its a big storm and its heading your way!



It appears that this whole area of storms was 'born' over the Malvern
Hills & North Cotswolds before around 09:00 hrs. As I left home in
Malvern to drive to work in Swindon this morning between 06:30 and
07:30, there were short outbreaks of moderate rain from medium level
cloud but it appeared then along with the 06:30 Hereford & Worcester
local weather forecast that it would be an improving situation during
the morning.


Looking at the radar yesterday, the storms seemed to originate
in the Brecon Beacons.
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


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"Col" wrote in message
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Pete B wrote:
"Simon Wyndham" wrote in message
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Its a big storm and its heading your way!



It appears that this whole area of storms was 'born' over the Malvern
Hills & North Cotswolds before around 09:00 hrs. As I left home in
Malvern to drive to work in Swindon this morning between 06:30 and
07:30, there were short outbreaks of moderate rain from medium level
cloud but it appeared then along with the 06:30 Hereford & Worcester
local weather forecast that it would be an improving situation during
the morning.


Looking at the radar yesterday, the storms seemed to originate
in the Brecon Beacons.
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl



Bit further to the SW of Herefordshire then - already expanding by the time
they'd moved into this area.

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Malvern, S Worcs, 43m asl.

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On 29/06/2012 08:57, Pete B wrote:

Bit further to the SW of Herefordshire then - already expanding by the
time they'd moved into this area.


One JMason's post to the Guardian at 10.09 in the comments on this
article (wish I could link to the comment) blames ingredients and then
the Brecon Beacons as being the catalyst:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ju...rt-power-homes

It concludes

"It's like an obscure recipe: you need all the ingredients although some
are hard to get hold of. Yesterday, all the ingredients were to hand:
stacks of moisture (hence the flooding incidents), a warm profile, cold
air aloft, low-level directional and mid to high-level speed-shear. It
is unusual to get the whole lot together in the UK, but it can happen,
as yesterday demonstrated."



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