"There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to dominate through this period"........... for the last four weeks this has been the mantra.. What will it take to alter this phrase? Are we really to believe that one of the world's foremost meteorological organisations lacks the knowledge, or the confidence, to make an informed prediction more than two weeks into the future? This is fence-sitting on an industrial scale; what do those of us who live in the UK pay our taxes for?

On 11/08/12 20:36, David Brown wrote:
"There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to dominate through this period"........... for the last four weeks this has been the mantra.

What will it take to alter this phrase?

A predictable weather regime.

David Brown wrote:
"There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to dominate through this period"........... for the last four weeks this has been the mantra. What will it take to alter this phrase? Are we really to believe that one of the world's foremost meteorological organisations lacks the knowledge, or the confidence, to make an informed prediction more than two weeks into the future? This is fence-sitting on an industrial scale; what do those of us who live in the UK pay our taxes for?
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Isn't that just a statement of fact. Should they make up a clear signal
for warm dry weather or wet weather if there isn't one? Mind you even if
there was a clear signal it is unlikely t hat after 16 days it would
mean much!

On Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:36:48 UTC+1, David Brown wrote:
"There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to dominate through this period"........... for the last four weeks this has been the mantra. What will it take to alter this phrase? Are we really to believe that one of the world's foremost meteorological organisations lacks the knowledge, or the confidence, to make an informed prediction more than two weeks into the future? This is fence-sitting on an industrial scale; what do those of us who live in the UK pay our taxes for?

You pay your taxes so as not to be reliant on the likes of Piers Corbyn and his bold, confident rubbish.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On 11/08/2012 20:36, David Brown wrote:
"There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to dominate through this period"........... for the last four weeks this has been the mantra. What will it take to alter this phrase? Are we really to believe that one of the world's foremost meteorological organisations lacks the knowledge, or the confidence, to make an informed prediction more than two weeks into the future? This is fence-sitting on an industrial scale; what do those of us who live in the UK pay our taxes for?

I thought about posting a similar report. What chance has anyone on long
range forecasting if we do not know the short to medium term?

Great night for Team GB - costing me a fortune with all of the gold
medal stamps!

--
Phil
Guildford

David Brown wrote in
:

This is fence-sitting on an
industrial scale; what do those of us who live in the UK pay our taxes
for?

Don't get all Daily Mail on us. It's a "hiding to nothing" situation. Offer
nothing when it's felt the forecast isn't predictable and you get shot
down; offer up a forecast when it isn't predictable and you get shot down
for it being wrong.

Richard

On Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:47:49 UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:36:48 UTC+1, David Brown wrote:

"There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to dominate through this period"........... for the last four weeks this has been the mantra. What will it take to alter this phrase? Are we really to believe that one of the world's foremost meteorological organisations lacks the knowledge, or the confidence, to make an informed prediction more than two weeks into the future? This is fence-sitting on an industrial scale; what do those of us who live in the UK pay our taxes for?



You pay your taxes so as not to be reliant on the likes of Piers Corbyn and his bold, confident rubbish.



Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Strange one though Tudor, as Peirs is going fo the jet stream to take a Med Club holiday after the 19th August putting the UK in a slack northerly to NE. As for UKMO not knowing: well at least I respect and appreciate that honesty. It's far better than trying to give answers that aren't known.

In message ,
Lawrence13 writes

Strange one though Tudor, as Peirs is going fo the jet stream to take a
Med Club holiday after the 19th August putting the UK in a slack
northerly to NE. As for UKMO not knowing: well at least I respect and
appreciate that honesty. It's far better than trying to give answers
that aren't known.

Take it Peirs is your new hero, what happened to Joe ?

Lawrence13 wrote:
On Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:47:49 UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:36:48 UTC+1, David Brown wrote:

"There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to
dominate through this period"........... for the last four weeks
this has been the mantra. What will it take to alter this phrase?
Are we really to believe that one of the world's foremost
meteorological organisations lacks the knowledge, or the
confidence, to make an informed prediction more than two weeks into
the future? This is fence-sitting on an industrial scale; what do
those of us who live in the UK pay our taxes for?



You pay your taxes so as not to be reliant on the likes of
Piers Corbyn and his bold, confident rubbish.



Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Strange one though Tudor, as Peirs is going fo the jet stream to take
a Med Club holiday after the 19th August putting the UK in a slack
northerly to NE. As for UKMO not knowing: well at least I respect and
appreciate that honesty. It's far better than trying to give answers
that aren't known.

Agreed.
If you don't know, then say so. If the odds of it being wet in two weeks'
time are 50:50 then don't commit to anything, it's just guesswork.
This may lead to claims of 'They don't know what they're bloody doing'
but better in the long run to take this cautious approach than nailing your
colours to the mast and end up being spectacularly wrong.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

On Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:47:49 PM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:36:48 UTC+1, David Brown wrote:

"There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to dominate through this period"........... for the last four weeks this has been the mantra. What will it take to alter this phrase? Are we really to believe that one of the world's foremost meteorological organisations lacks the knowledge, or the confidence, to make an informed prediction more than two weeks into the future? This is fence-sitting on an industrial scale; what do those of us who live in the UK pay our taxes for?



You pay your taxes so as not to be reliant on the likes of Piers Corbyn and his bold, confident rubbish.



Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Fair enough, the trouble is it's drifting towards the Dawlish school of forecasting (just wait until everything points in the same direction). Perhaps best to drop forecasts so far out & concentrate on the next few days.

Graham
Penzance