All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way
with milder air.
OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is
it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in
relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the
presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week.
What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the
potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know
this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb
temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do
things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The
one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it
won't rain all the time.
I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we
ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with
the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will
never be far away in the next two weeks.

Will
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Eskimo Will wrote:
All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the
way with milder air.
OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards
is it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still
stay in relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4
the presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next
week. What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is
the potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I
know this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb
temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and
do things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't
have. The one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in
eaernest and it won't rain all the time.
I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we
ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up
with the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold
air will never be far away in the next two weeks.

Will
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You are right Will. You will see in my next post that it is a long way
off here! I will be glad to lose the wind though because although it is
drying the surface it plays havoc with my "dry eyes" that I have had for
the last couple of years, causing them to stream with tears endlessly.
Not the fun it once was!
Dave

In article ,
Eskimo Will writes:
All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on
the way with milder air.
OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands
northwards is it really going to get much milder after we lose the
sun and still stay in relatively deep cold air? I think not.
snip

The model runs are certainly looking less springlike this morning. I
suspect that there's enough of a time lag that this morning's forecasts,
especially the regional ones, aren't yet reflecting that.
--
John Hall
"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable
of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it."
Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) to a lady cellist

It will be a lot less cold than today. Just been driving around High Wycombe. The car thermometer was reading zero with snow grains falling.

Paul Kendall

Paul wrote:
It will be a lot less cold than today. Just been driving around High Wycombe. The car thermometer was reading zero with snow grains falling.

Paul Kendall
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Midday temperature here 1.1C and snowing steadily most of the morning!
Dave, S.Essex

On Apr 4, 8:48*am, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way
with milder air.
OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is
it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in
relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the
presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week..
What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the
potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know
this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb
temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do
things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The
one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it
won't rain all the time.
I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we
ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with
the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will
never be far away in the next two weeks.

Will
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Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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The problem IMO with the current setup in the S and SE at least is the
persistent dullness, combined with the spartan and sterile look of the
countryside compared to normal. Tuesday was actually nice - sunny all
day - but it only lasted one day.
I'll take anything which means brighter conditions, even if it comes
with showers - though dull, cyclonic gloom would I suspect be even
worse than we have now.

Something like the GFS 00Z wouldn't be too bad if it were to come off.

Nick

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 8:48:32 AM UTC+1, wrote:
All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way

with milder air.

OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is

it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in

relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the

presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week.

What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the

potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know

this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb

temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do

things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The

one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it

won't rain all the time.

I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we

ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with

the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will

never be far away in the next two weeks.



Will

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Yes; "relief".

The presenters are representing a *huge* majority of people in the UK who are sick of the cold for this winter. You aren't. It's as simple as that.

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
The presenters are representing a *huge* majority of people in the UK who
are sick of the cold for this winter. You aren't. It's as simple as that.


Why do all your posts get personal?
Come on give us your scientific views on the latest situation and why?

Will
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On Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:51:16 PM UTC+1, wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

The presenters are representing a *huge* majority of people in the UK who

are sick of the cold for this winter. You aren't. It's as simple as that.

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:51:16 PM UTC+1,
wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

The presenters are representing a *huge* majority of people in the UK
who

are sick of the cold for this winter. You aren't. It's as simple as
that.





Why do all your posts get personal?

Come on give us your scientific views on the latest situation and why?



Will

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Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)

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Odd. You criticise the presenter for what you see as a failing in not
agreeing with your minority view about cold and I criticise you for
criticising the presenter's viewpoint which represents the *huge* majority
of that of the rest of the UK. Somehow, to you, that's personal.

What's the probability of disruption due to this coming change of pattern,
Will? Not the outside possibility of disruption, which is always there in
such a change and which is what most of your comments are about, but the
probability?

The ensembles certainly don't suggest anything particularly disruptive for
the vast majority of the UK over the next 10 days. but they do suggest
milder and the vast majority of people would swap this cold for what's
coming. The presenter was absolutely right in reflecting the country's
viewpoint. The possible rain and Atlantic-sourced winds certainly don't look
disruptive for most and it really will come as a *relief* to most people.
Not to you, but we all know that if it's not cold, you're not a happy bunny.
*))
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You're right I'm loving this *dry* weather. Don't care about the cold at
this time of year, it can even get warmer if it wants as long as it stays
*dry*. OK it's snowing up here now but the air still has a dry feel with low
wet-bulbs. Will heavy rain and wind really be a relief because that is what
could happen down here with 985hPa lows close by. And then there is the
renewed risk of flooding, it won't take much you know. And then there is the
risk of further heavy snow further north with sub -5C air predicted to hang
around. I fully expect yellow snow warnings to be issued early next week
after a fine weekend which I will enjoy, as it will be DRY.

Will
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