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All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way
with milder air. OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week. What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it won't rain all the time. I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will never be far away in the next two weeks. Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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Eskimo Will wrote:
All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way with milder air. OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week. What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it won't rain all the time. I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will never be far away in the next two weeks. Will ---------------------------------- You are right Will. You will see in my next post that it is a long way off here! I will be glad to lose the wind though because although it is drying the surface it plays havoc with my "dry eyes" that I have had for the last couple of years, causing them to stream with tears endlessly. Not the fun it once was! Dave |
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Eskimo Will writes: All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way with milder air. OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in relatively deep cold air? I think not. snip The model runs are certainly looking less springlike this morning. I suspect that there's enough of a time lag that this morning's forecasts, especially the regional ones, aren't yet reflecting that. -- John Hall "Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it." Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) to a lady cellist |
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It will be a lot less cold than today. Just been driving around High Wycombe. The car thermometer was reading zero with snow grains falling.
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Paul wrote:
It will be a lot less cold than today. Just been driving around High Wycombe. The car thermometer was reading zero with snow grains falling. Paul Kendall -------------------------------------------------- Midday temperature here 1.1C and snowing steadily most of the morning! Dave, S.Essex |
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On Apr 4, 8:48*am, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way with milder air. OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week.. What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it won't rain all the time. I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will never be far away in the next two weeks. Will --http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Haytor/automatic/Current_Vantage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- The problem IMO with the current setup in the S and SE at least is the persistent dullness, combined with the spartan and sterile look of the countryside compared to normal. Tuesday was actually nice - sunny all day - but it only lasted one day. I'll take anything which means brighter conditions, even if it comes with showers - though dull, cyclonic gloom would I suspect be even worse than we have now. Something like the GFS 00Z wouldn't be too bad if it were to come off. Nick |
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On Thursday, April 4, 2013 8:48:32 AM UTC+1, wrote:
All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way with milder air. OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week. What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it won't rain all the time. I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will never be far away in the next two weeks. Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- Yes; "relief". The presenters are representing a *huge* majority of people in the UK who are sick of the cold for this winter. You aren't. It's as simple as that. |
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![]() "Dawlish" wrote in message ... The presenters are representing a *huge* majority of people in the UK who are sick of the cold for this winter. You aren't. It's as simple as that. Why do all your posts get personal? Come on give us your scientific views on the latest situation and why? Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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On Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:51:16 PM UTC+1, wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message ... The presenters are representing a *huge* majority of people in the UK who are sick of the cold for this winter. You aren't. It's as simple as that. |
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![]() "Dawlish" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:51:16 PM UTC+1, wrote: "Dawlish" wrote in message ... The presenters are representing a *huge* majority of people in the UK who are sick of the cold for this winter. You aren't. It's as simple as that. Why do all your posts get personal? Come on give us your scientific views on the latest situation and why? Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- Odd. You criticise the presenter for what you see as a failing in not agreeing with your minority view about cold and I criticise you for criticising the presenter's viewpoint which represents the *huge* majority of that of the rest of the UK. Somehow, to you, that's personal. What's the probability of disruption due to this coming change of pattern, Will? Not the outside possibility of disruption, which is always there in such a change and which is what most of your comments are about, but the probability? The ensembles certainly don't suggest anything particularly disruptive for the vast majority of the UK over the next 10 days. but they do suggest milder and the vast majority of people would swap this cold for what's coming. The presenter was absolutely right in reflecting the country's viewpoint. The possible rain and Atlantic-sourced winds certainly don't look disruptive for most and it really will come as a *relief* to most people. Not to you, but we all know that if it's not cold, you're not a happy bunny. *)) ================================ You're right I'm loving this *dry* weather. Don't care about the cold at this time of year, it can even get warmer if it wants as long as it stays *dry*. OK it's snowing up here now but the air still has a dry feel with low wet-bulbs. Will heavy rain and wind really be a relief because that is what could happen down here with 985hPa lows close by. And then there is the renewed risk of flooding, it won't take much you know. And then there is the risk of further heavy snow further north with sub -5C air predicted to hang around. I fully expect yellow snow warnings to be issued early next week after a fine weekend which I will enjoy, as it will be DRY. Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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