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Lawrence13 scrive:
Jimmy Savile was good mates with Peter Sutcliffe who was a cook in Broadmoor. So eating his sticky toffee pudding must have been like talking a sweets from a strangler!!!!!!!! Actually that was rather poor taste. It was and for a number of reasons. Naughty Lawrence. I shall save my sweets for Michael than. -- Gianna Peterhead, Scotland |
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yttiw wrote:
I was told long ago that the sea level rises 1cm (above the calculated datum figures) for every millibar that atmospheric pressure falls below 1000. I don't know how true that is in reality, but even a low pressure centre of 950mb would only cause a 50cm rise in sea levels. Compare that to the 3-6 metre rises that the moon can manage. Yes, the earth's crust is far denser than the waters of the ocean, but that does not mean it is immune to the variations in gravitational force imposed on it every 24 hours by our neighbouring celestial body. The causeway connecting Holy Island to the mainland always takes longer to drain at low tide when the air pressure is significantly low. Of course this may also have something to do with the often accompanying strong winds which keep a fresh supply of sea water flowing over it! |
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On May 14, 9:48*am, yttiw wrote:
On 2013-05-13 15:11:29 +0000, Weatherlawyer said: On May 10, 4:53 pm, yttiw wrote: On 2013-05-10 14:15:42 +0000, Weatherlawyer said: On May 10, 9:32 am, yttiw wrote: On 2013-05-09 15:12:17 +0000, Weatherlawyer said: Or does anyone else seeing a reply by Dawlish get a mild depression? Oh for a nice healthy drought. No, not petty - just childish and boring as usual. I pretty well agree witha ll the above sentiment but his name just has the effect of my not wishing to open a thread. It's OK when someone else's name repaces his unless Dawlish started the thread and then I just close the link. But what is it in a name that has such an affect on a person who will never really be troubled by it? Maybe I aught to get back on my meds. But you started this thread, and I assume that you wanted others to back you up. Some folk might get depressed reading long posts which link seismic activity to the position of low pressure areas over German Bight, but presumably they don't let that wind them up to such an extent that they become obsessed with insulting one particular poster. I have no idea if variations in atmospheric pressure can influence the occurrence of earthquakes, or vice versa, but it would be a fascinating discovery if proved correct. Following revelations recently about upper atmosphere soundings being 50% or more bull****, I am surprised that I am the only one in the world who sees compression of isobars at sea level as the first major sign of seismic activity. I don't understand why you are surprised that you are the only one who sees that. It's because I pay attention to the way that weather forecast models run to seed. Everyone else thinks its butterflies (HTH.) *I have always seen the compression of isobars at sea level as indicating a steep pressure gradient between areas of high and low pressure. Air flows from high to low pressure, in order to try and restore an equilibrium, That is a patent lie if there is such a thing as a patent lie outside of East Texan patent law courts. Highs and Lows tend to avoid each other with a passion that seems to prove theopropomorphism. and the steeper the pressure gradient, the faster the air moves. Obviously with compression comes ability to disperse energy faster but how does it explain the compression in the first place if the one was deflating the other? I feel that this is the crux of the stupidity of all meteorological arguments and have to pass it on to my fans at sci.geo.earthquakes so that a discussion with the idiots there can resound to better effect. There is one particular little cranioarsinfact that I'd love to hear from on there, about that. Only of course I no longer read his crap. I would presume that the variations in air pressure over a few hundred miles do not amount to a significant force when measured against the gravitational forces exerted by the planet, or indeed the moon. I was told long ago that the sea level rises 1cm (above the calculated datum figures) for every millibar that atmospheric pressure falls below 1000. I don't know how true that is in reality, but even a low pressure centre of 950mb would only cause a 50cm rise in sea levels. Don't mix cause and effect with what you think is happening or what you have been told is happening. When two things occur at the same time every time or as near every time as makes little difference, that once in a while exception should shout at you to be more discerning. But even if it is an immutable universal law, it doesn't prove one is the cause of the other. Compare that to the 3-6 metre rises that the moon can manage. Yes, the earth's crust is far denser than the waters of the ocean, but that does not mean it is immune to the variations in gravitational force imposed on it every 24 hours by our neighbouring celestial body. There is no way on god's earth that the moon can attract tides to it from the sea. Not without attracting much heavier stuff first and a lot further and on a far more permanent basis, as it would have less ability to collapse back down. Once you remove that non-Newtonian impediment to your understanding of celestial mechanics, the rest of the stuff can become a little more obvious. (With a lot of help from people like me of course. (Of course, there are no "people like me" there is only me:~)) |
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On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:37:48 PM UTC+1, Lindisfarne Poacher wrote:
yttiw wrote: I was told long ago that the sea level rises 1cm (above the calculated datum figures) for every millibar that atmospheric pressure falls below 1000. I don't know how true that is in reality, but even a low pressure centre of 950mb would only cause a 50cm rise in sea levels. Compare that to the 3-6 metre rises that the moon can manage. Yes, the earth's crust is far denser than the waters of the ocean, but that does not mean it is immune to the variations in gravitational force imposed on it every 24 hours by our neighbouring celestial body. The causeway connecting Holy Island to the mainland always takes longer to drain at low tide when the air pressure is significantly low. Of course this may also have something to do with the often accompanying strong winds which keep a fresh supply of sea water flowing over it! I'm a bit bemused by someone being "too dead"! My dad used to say that the fish took better when the pressure was high. |
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On Tuesday, 14 May 2013 10:09:13 UTC+1, Buchan Meteo wrote:
Lawrence13 scrive: Jimmy Savile was good mates with Peter Sutcliffe who was a cook in Broadmoor. So eating his sticky toffee pudding must have been like talking a sweets from a strangler!!!!!!!! Actually that was rather poor taste. It was and for a number of reasons. Naughty Lawrence. I shall save my sweets for Michael than. -- Gianna Peterhead, Scotland Michael this, Michael that I hate HIM!!!!!!!! |
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Lawrence13 scrive:
On Tuesday, 14 May 2013 10:09:13 UTC+1, Buchan Meteo wrote: Lawrence13 scrive: Jimmy Savile was good mates with Peter Sutcliffe who was a cook in Broadmoor. So eating his sticky toffee pudding must have been like talking a sweets from a strangler!!!!!!!! Actually that was rather poor taste. It was and for a number of reasons. Naughty Lawrence. I shall save my sweets for Michael than. -- Gianna Peterhead, Scotland Michael this, Michael that I hate HIM!!!!!!!! Sorry for my typo. Hectic day. My windscreen wipers developed a new 'static' mode whereby one turns them on and they fail to move much. This is on topic because it rained and I needed them. -- Gianna Peterhead, Scotland |
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On May 14, 6:05*pm, Buchan Meteo wrote:
Lawrence13 scrive: On Tuesday, 14 May 2013 10:09:13 UTC+1, Buchan Meteo *wrote: Lawrence13 scrive: Jimmy Savile was good mates with Peter Sutcliffe who was a cook in Broadmoor. So eating his sticky toffee pudding must have been like talking a sweets from a strangler!!!!!!!! Actually that was rather poor taste. It was and for a number of reasons. Naughty Lawrence. I shall save my sweets for Michael than. Michael this, Michael that I hate HIM!!!!!!!! As one ages, one hates no one more than one hates one's self. (And Dawlish.) Sorry for my typo. Hectic day. My windscreen wipers developed a new 'static' mode whereby one turns them on and they fail to move much. This is on topic because it rained and I needed them. I think that you share similar weather patterns to me with a rainband hitting hardest whenever a tropical storm collapses. I wonder if others on here, who don't get that same effect, are on an opposite tidal type: There is a three phase tide running around Britain (extrememly complex in the Hebrides too but the simplest schema is that the waters around Dover, Liverpool and NE Scotland are on the same constant- 6 hours different from Bristol and Hull.) |
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