On Sunday, 27 October 2013 22:02:16 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:
On 27/10/2013 10:23, Graham P Davis wrote:

On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:12:23 +0000

Adam Lea wrote:



I don't follow your argument at all here, it just reads like a

non-sequitur.



Careful! Use of 'non-sequitur' caused a flame war here about a decade

ago - at a time when all was sweetness and light in this group according

to those now looking backwards through high-strength rose-tinted

glasses. ;-)





AIUI things were better when we had very knowledgeable, highly respected

people Philip Eden and Will Hand posting (correct me if I am wrong). The

feeling I am getting from what people have posted on this group is that

things like trolling, personal attacks and petty bickering have all but

destroyed the group, hence I find it hard to understand an "anything

goes" philosophy when certain behaviour is deemed to be detrimental to

the group as a whole. Why not speak out at behaviour that is destructive?



I guess it comes down to whether you think the rights of the individual

trump the rights of the community as a whole, or vice versa.

The truth is Philip Eden left a very long time ago and Will far more recently and Will left because of Dawlish pure and simple. Some hint Philip left because of me but I wouldn't flatter myself so to believe that a great knowledgeable forecaster like Philip would go because of of some dunce like me. Come on I never had much to do with Philip, only when he emailed me a couple of time.

On Friday, 25 October 2013 18:13:16 UTC+2, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 25 October 2013 13:43:01 UTC+1, yttiw wrote:

On 2013-10-24 01:31:07 +0000, zzebowa said:







On Wednesday, 23 October 2013 20:32:23 UTC+2, Dave Cornwell wrote:



ZZebowa is







the perpetrator







How so? I only asked if he still hung out here, since he seems to have



moved to alt.gw where he, like a seagull, flaps his arms, squauks a



lot, and ****s all over the place.







If you want to look for a perpetrator just open up one of GArveys posts



and see the way he talks to people.







No one forces you to read his posts.







He can talk to people how he likes, unless he resorts to libellous



comments which are unlawful.







If you don't like how he talks to you, you have two choices. Either you



argue your point of view as best as you can, or you keep quiet.







What you do not do, is trawl around other newsgroups for volunteers to



back up your cause against him. Like it or not - that is how your



bullying starts.







"your bullying".



My god you have to be a sock puppet there is no other rationale

He spelt the name wrong, it should be yttawt.

On Sunday, October 27, 2013 11:08:29 PM UTC, Joe Egginton wrote:

I agree Larry.

You would. He has the same far right-wing and horribly xenophobic views as you do and you find a soul-mate in him.

Some are more equal than others in our country. The

minorities, are given preferential treatment, women in favour of men,

non whites in favour of whites, gays in favour of straights.

The term “Person of colour”, offends me, does this mean that Caucasians

don’t have a colour to their skin and so are invisible?

Did he really say this??

The tripe that has been written by this core of discriminatory, far-right-wingers on this thread is quite incredible. It's when people like this are challenged that they detest the challenger and will do and say, *anything* to try to discredit the challenger and pull others round to their cause. It starts with their views on climate change, but scratch the surface and you find this kind of foulness.

However, have a single one of them ever noticed that it simply doesn't work (I'm still here. still happily posting and still enjoying posting) and you would be far better off just defending your views (if you can - and therein lies a real difficulty for them and the core of their problems) or ignoring the people you don't like?

People leave groups for all sorts of reasons, as was said on a very sensible thread a while ago and newsgroups are slowly dying. Good for the people leaving; I hope they enjoy their weather elsewhere in moderated groups, or talking on their own blogs, but have you noticed that more have stayed? Good for them if they come back too; anyone is welcome, even stalkers and yes; I do attract them. More fool the idiots (and yes, there are a few) for trying to use them for their purposes.

Fancy this lot trying to say that they are "bullied" by one person. shakes head and laughs

On Sunday, October 27, 2013 11:08:29 PM UTC, Joe Egginton wrote:
On 25/10/2013 17:35, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Friday, 25 October 2013 12:25:28 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote:

On 25/10/2013 00:38, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:



On Friday, 25 October 2013 00:28:23 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote:



On 24/10/2013 21:04, General wrote:







"Joe Egginton" wrote in message

...















Everybody on the edited electoral register is public

knowledge.















That won't do as an excuse I'm afraid. In practice,

individuals are







effectively anonymous unless someone highlights their

existence, as has







been done here. Very badly misjudged, despicable even in my

book too I'm







afraid. An apology wouldn't be out of order.















JGD















I really can't see the problem, publishing Dawlish's real name

and







address. Anyone can type into www.192.com anyone's name and see

where







they live and the other occupants that live there. In that

respect







there is no thing as privacy on the internet. It has very

much made







people's names and addresses much more accessible. Before it

was a







visit to your library, to have a look at the electoral register

and even







then it was only the electoral register in the local area.







Joe take no notice.















This whole rubbish about so called data protection when even the

paper boy knows names and addresses. FFS should Dalwish's postman

be sworn to the official secrets act. I remember years ago on my

mad lefty days during elections where the don't laugh...Workers

Revolutionary Party had candidate we would get the electoral list

and then canvass those voters.











So to suggest that you have done something so wrong and shameful

is ludicrous.







The surveillance state is getting worse Larry. We’re sleep walking

into



a police state. I remember in March 2010 I went to the city park.

I was



taking photos of daffs. All of a sudden I had eight police

officers



around me, being intimidating, saying that somebody had said I was



taking photos of children. I showed them my photos and the police

left.



There was no apology off them for intimidating me. I thank God

that



it wasn’t a film camera otherwise I would have probably been

arrested as



suspected paedo, until the film was developed. The suspiciousness

the



average Brit is filled with these days, twists us in to bitter,



frightened people.











What gets me is the most indignant about this are the ones who

have remained silent as he bullied people. Does he and others

really believe that as Dawlish has let us know where he's lived

for sometime that anyone with a grudge against him really

couldn't get the electoral list of from his website.



What's that old saying about living in a greenhouse.







Joe



My view is simple now, it took years of confusion scratches my head

and searching my soul, but I truly believe our society and attitudes

are increasingly that of social Marxism which is in government, local

government, the NHS, education and all other organisations that feed

from the tax payers trough.



After decades of post war creeping social Marxism we now life in a

world where you can literally totally provably murder someone and

walk free within 12 years or if a usual proved manslaughter with the

help of a now totally corrupt judiciary walk free within years.





Larry, the general public is being pressured from two sides. Yes, there

is the communist with their PC rubbish. Also, there are the greedy

lawyers, with their litigation frenzy which as taken a stranglehold of

our society. I think the "storm" tonight will probably just be a rather

bad autumn storm with 60mph gusts along the south coast, elsewhere over

England 40mph winds.



Public organisations and companies are so afraid of being sued. They

always play it extra cautious, in the case of the MO, always reporting

the worst case scenario.





The police themselves now rarely fight crime anymore and the only

thing they are good for is attacking and penalising the honest

citizen for silly misdemeanours like being late with the tax disc, or

not wearing a seat belt, drifting in a bus lane. Several weeks ago

on a Friday afternoon my next door neighbour call at my door to tell

me the neighbour opposite burglar alarm had been ringing on and off

all afternoon. For some reason he wanted me to call the police which

I did. The call centre staff on the phone were polite enough but told

me that unless I could see signs of disturbance they wouldn't come

out and that was it.





Nope the police nowadays like many organisations are filled with

people with political agendas and outlooks and they actually see the

working citizen as more of a target and enemy than they do criminals

, that would explain why you only rarely see them patrolling the

streets and when either walking or in the cars between blue flashing

lights busy going no where see thug types with illegal fighting dogs

yet ignore them.



The police are so PC corrupt now and infiltrated that when several

years ago they were doing a knife searching exercise on Rye Lane

station Peckham they stopped my work colleague a woman in her fifties

and searched her for a knife!!! as they were doing this a load of the

usual suspects went to get of the train and then decided to stay on.

Not long after that I went with my daughter to see Leonard Cohen at

the O2 and that night the bulk of the fifty upwards grey bald

guardian reading audience were scanned for weapons.







My local bobby is a reasonable chap, what the high echelons of my local

police force are like I wouldn't like to think.



The next night the Urban music awards were held and no scanning took

place for fear of offending people, that night there were fights,

three stabbings and a shot was heard before the enterprise was

abandoned,.



I agree Larry. Some are more equal than others in our country. The

minorities, are given preferential treatment, women in favour of men,

non whites in favour of whites, gays in favour of straights.



The term “Person of colour”, offends me, does this mean that Caucasians

don’t have a colour to their skin and so are invisible?





Back to your experience: the police now seem more like an occupying

army then the first people you would trust and sek help from-if you

can fid them that his.



Of course one way to get a fantastic rapid response is to say a hate

crime had been committed and they'll soon be there then



You're on the wrong newsgroup, mate. This is UK Sci WEATHER. You can find UK Sociopaths and ******s here;
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/

On Monday, 28 October 2013 08:52:10 UTC, Desperate Dan wrote:
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 11:08:29 PM UTC, Joe Egginton wrote:

On 25/10/2013 17:35, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:



On Friday, 25 October 2013 12:25:28 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote:



On 25/10/2013 00:38, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:







On Friday, 25 October 2013 00:28:23 UTC+1, Joe Egginton wrote:







On 24/10/2013 21:04, General wrote:















"Joe Egginton" wrote in message



...































Everybody on the edited electoral register is public



knowledge.































That won't do as an excuse I'm afraid. In practice,



individuals are















effectively anonymous unless someone highlights their



existence, as has















been done here. Very badly misjudged, despicable even in my



book too I'm















afraid. An apology wouldn't be out of order.































JGD































I really can't see the problem, publishing Dawlish's real name



and















address. Anyone can type into www.192.com anyone's name and see



where















they live and the other occupants that live there. In that



respect















there is no thing as privacy on the internet. It has very



much made















people's names and addresses much more accessible. Before it



was a















visit to your library, to have a look at the electoral register



and even















then it was only the electoral register in the local area.















Joe take no notice.































This whole rubbish about so called data protection when even the



paper boy knows names and addresses. FFS should Dalwish's postman



be sworn to the official secrets act. I remember years ago on my



mad lefty days during elections where the don't laugh...Workers



Revolutionary Party had candidate we would get the electoral list



and then canvass those voters.























So to suggest that you have done something so wrong and shameful



is ludicrous.















The surveillance state is getting worse Larry. We’re sleep walking



into







a police state. I remember in March 2010 I went to the city park.



I was







taking photos of daffs. All of a sudden I had eight police



officers







around me, being intimidating, saying that somebody had said I was







taking photos of children. I showed them my photos and the police



left.







There was no apology off them for intimidating me. I thank God



that







it wasn’t a film camera otherwise I would have probably been



arrested as







suspected paedo, until the film was developed. The suspiciousness



the







average Brit is filled with these days, twists us in to bitter,







frightened people.























What gets me is the most indignant about this are the ones who



have remained silent as he bullied people. Does he and others



really believe that as Dawlish has let us know where he's lived



for sometime that anyone with a grudge against him really



couldn't get the electoral list of from his website.







What's that old saying about living in a greenhouse.















Joe







My view is simple now, it took years of confusion scratches my head



and searching my soul, but I truly believe our society and attitudes



are increasingly that of social Marxism which is in government, local



government, the NHS, education and all other organisations that feed



from the tax payers trough.







After decades of post war creeping social Marxism we now life in a



world where you can literally totally provably murder someone and



walk free within 12 years or if a usual proved manslaughter with the



help of a now totally corrupt judiciary walk free within years.











Larry, the general public is being pressured from two sides. Yes, there



is the communist with their PC rubbish. Also, there are the greedy



lawyers, with their litigation frenzy which as taken a stranglehold of



our society. I think the "storm" tonight will probably just be a rather



bad autumn storm with 60mph gusts along the south coast, elsewhere over



England 40mph winds.







Public organisations and companies are so afraid of being sued. They



always play it extra cautious, in the case of the MO, always reporting



the worst case scenario.











The police themselves now rarely fight crime anymore and the only



thing they are good for is attacking and penalising the honest



citizen for silly misdemeanours like being late with the tax disc, or



not wearing a seat belt, drifting in a bus lane. Several weeks ago



on a Friday afternoon my next door neighbour call at my door to tell



me the neighbour opposite burglar alarm had been ringing on and off



all afternoon. For some reason he wanted me to call the police which



I did. The call centre staff on the phone were polite enough but told



me that unless I could see signs of disturbance they wouldn't come



out and that was it.











Nope the police nowadays like many organisations are filled with



people with political agendas and outlooks and they actually see the



working citizen as more of a target and enemy than they do criminals



, that would explain why you only rarely see them patrolling the



streets and when either walking or in the cars between blue flashing



lights busy going no where see thug types with illegal fighting dogs



yet ignore them.







The police are so PC corrupt now and infiltrated that when several



years ago they were doing a knife searching exercise on Rye Lane



station Peckham they stopped my work colleague a woman in her fifties



and searched her for a knife!!! as they were doing this a load of the



usual suspects went to get of the train and then decided to stay on.



Not long after that I went with my daughter to see Leonard Cohen at



the O2 and that night the bulk of the fifty upwards grey bald



guardian reading audience were scanned for weapons.















My local bobby is a reasonable chap, what the high echelons of my local



police force are like I wouldn't like to think.







The next night the Urban music awards were held and no scanning took



place for fear of offending people, that night there were fights,



three stabbings and a shot was heard before the enterprise was



abandoned,.







I agree Larry. Some are more equal than others in our country. The



minorities, are given preferential treatment, women in favour of men,



non whites in favour of whites, gays in favour of straights.







The term “Person of colour”, offends me, does this mean that Caucasians



don’t have a colour to their skin and so are invisible?











Back to your experience: the police now seem more like an occupying



army then the first people you would trust and sek help from-if you



can fid them that his.







Of course one way to get a fantastic rapid response is to say a hate



crime had been committed and they'll soon be there then







You're on the wrong newsgroup, mate. This is UK Sci WEATHER. You can find UK Sociopaths and ******s here;




Likewise pal, try here, should suit you sir.

http://tinyurl.com/ljmbbb5

On Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:04:21 UTC+1, MartinR wrote:
After the latest posting of contributor's address (I don't care if the address was genuine or not) this group is now totally scraping the barrel.



I'm out to join the many others who have been forced out by the idiots.

This is a problem that used to be faced only by the letters editors of newspapers and magazines. Every day they would weed out the nutters, the pathological,and the green ink brigade, and tidy up those letters with bad punctuation and spelling, leaving us with a sanitised view of reality.
They needed the carapace of a tortoise. Now we are all in the same boat.
I for one, a bloke of fairly moderate views-although I am an unreformed Thatcherite!- was pretty shocked initially at the bile and spleen hurled at me for my thoughts on, e.g., nuclear power, Arthur Scargill, etc, but now realise that the way to deal with it is to realise that inoffensive folk- as 90% of us are on this site and many others-hold the moral high ground, and that offensive stuff is recognisable almost immediately.
Don't read further than the first sentence, and never, ever, dignify them with a reply.
N