Lovely in Sydenham SE London this afternoon and I warned all the local Pound Shops to keep their fine selection of plastic home ware indoors, lest they melt. I have to say though it did get above 70f in my back garden but my thermometer was quite close to the garden brazier I got going early evening.

On 2014-03-09 18:46:21 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:

Lovely in Sydenham SE London this afternoon and I warned all the local
Pound Shops to keep their fine selection of plastic home ware indoors,
lest they melt. I have to say though it did get above 70f in my back
garden but my thermometer was quite close to the garden brazier I got
going early evening.


I don't believe anything from Gravesend.

20C they are supposed to have reached, and that is with an airmass
dewpoint of 4 or 5.

They should be subjected to a correction of -10% on their max's, or ignored.

On Sunday, 9 March 2014 19:57:07 UTC, yttiw wrote:
On 2014-03-09 18:46:21 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:



Lovely in Sydenham SE London this afternoon and I warned all the local

Pound Shops to keep their fine selection of plastic home ware indoors,

lest they melt. I have to say though it did get above 70f in my back

garden but my thermometer was quite close to the garden brazier I got

going early evening.





I don't believe anything from Gravesend.



20C they are supposed to have reached, and that is with an airmass

dewpoint of 4 or 5.



They should be subjected to a correction of -10% on their max's, or ignored.

Just found this...
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/...ffice-station/

Keith (Southend)

On Sunday, March 9, 2014 8:10:34 PM UTC, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On Sunday, 9 March 2014 19:57:07 UTC, yttiw wrote:

On 2014-03-09 18:46:21 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:







Lovely in Sydenham SE London this afternoon and I warned all the local



Pound Shops to keep their fine selection of plastic home ware indoors,



lest they melt. I have to say though it did get above 70f in my back



garden but my thermometer was quite close to the garden brazier I got



going early evening.











I don't believe anything from Gravesend.







20C they are supposed to have reached, and that is with an airmass



dewpoint of 4 or 5.







They should be subjected to a correction of -10% on their max's, or ignored.



Just found this...

http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/...ffice-station/



Keith (Southend)

Id take anything on that site with a VERY large pinch of salt. Hes a well known climate denier who thinks the UK government is out to silence him. AT ALL COSTS. As I said mad as a hatter!!!

Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On Sunday, 9 March 2014 19:57:07 UTC, yttiw wrote:
On 2014-03-09 18:46:21 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:



Lovely in Sydenham SE London this afternoon and I warned all the local
Pound Shops to keep their fine selection of plastic home ware indoors,
lest they melt. I have to say though it did get above 70f in my back
garden but my thermometer was quite close to the garden brazier I got
going early evening.




I don't believe anything from Gravesend.



20C they are supposed to have reached, and that is with an airmass

dewpoint of 4 or 5.



They should be subjected to a correction of -10% on their max's, or ignored.

Just found this...
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/...ffice-station/

Keith (Southend)
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I'v read that before and it is fundamentally scientifically and
meteorologically a load of bunkum! There are so many flaws in the
argument about it and how that would affect other weather stations
around the Country it is ludicrous. Lots of the "facts" are completely
wrong as well. It reads high because it is in one of the Country's
warmest areas in certain conditions. It's a bit like saying the reading
from Aviemore is only cold because it's at the top of a mountain. Note
the warmest ever UK temperature is just a few miles away at Faversham.
On the days it reads high I also get my highest temperatures being 10
miles away on the other side of the Thames with none of those so called
"influencing" factors.
Dave, S.Essex

On 2014-03-09 21:20:09 +0000, Jim Cannon said:

On Sunday, March 9, 2014 8:10:34 PM UTC, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On Sunday, 9 March 2014 19:57:07 UTC, yttiw wrote:

On 2014-03-09 18:46:21 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:







Lovely in Sydenham SE London this afternoon and I warned all the local



Pound Shops to keep their fine selection of plastic home ware indoors,



lest they melt. I have to say though it did get above 70f in my back



garden but my thermometer was quite close to the garden brazier I got



going early evening.











I don't believe anything from Gravesend.







20C they are supposed to have reached, and that is with an airmass



dewpoint of 4 or 5.







They should be subjected to a correction of -10% on their max's, or ignored.



Just found this...

http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/...ffice-station/




Keith (Southend)

Id take anything on that site with a VERY large pinch of salt. Hes a
well known climate denier who thinks the UK government is out to
silence him. AT ALL COSTS. As I said mad as a hatter!!!


I rest my case.

Can we start a campaign to strike all Gravesend records from the official list?


I have always considered their highest day max to be an effort to get
the ulimate media attention.

yttiw wrote:
On 2014-03-09 18:46:21 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:

Lovely in Sydenham SE London this afternoon and I warned all the
local Pound Shops to keep their fine selection of plastic home ware
indoors, lest they melt. I have to say though it did get above 70f in
my back garden but my thermometer was quite close to the garden
brazier I got going early evening.


I don't believe anything from Gravesend.

20C they are supposed to have reached, and that is with an airmass
dewpoint of 4 or 5.

They should be subjected to a correction of -10% on their max's, or
ignored.

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Rubbish - it's been verified as accurate. Could you explain how a
percentage correction works on a temperature scale? Is that 10% of the
centigrade temp or the temp in deg F? Does that mean 2C should be 1.8C
and 20C should be 18C? It's an official station and meets all the
criteria. As with every station it's precise geographic, demographic and
geological location can make it read differently to others not so far
away. It is what it is. It also happens to be 10 miles from me and
usually agrees well with it.
Dave, S.Essex

On Sunday, 9 March 2014 19:57:07 UTC, yttiw wrote:

I don't believe anything from Gravesend. 20C they are supposed to have reached, and that is with an airmass dewpoint of 4 or 5. They should be subjected to a correction of -10% on their max's, or ignored.

What has the dewpoint got to do with it?

There's nothing wrong with the Gravesend site. It is near the tip of an open grassy headland that sticks out into the Thames and is about a mile from any significant building. The surface is not sand as someone has stated but short grass. It is a very exposed site.
I'm getting the impression that people just don't *like* it because of its high readings under certain conditions (generally a sunny anticyclonic south to southwesterly) and there is a degree of envy, but there is no evidence to show it is unsatisfactory.
The maximum reached was 2.2 degC higher than here on the North Downs at 557 ft (169 m). That does not seem unreasonable. Even if it were there are no grounds on which to dismiss it.
Here is a photo of the place (rather accidentally, since the source is not a meteorological website):

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/48941

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Looks a good standard site to me ,any criticism of incorrect readings seems to bear out the "envy" claims.
As to sand and none standard exposure ,well I would suggest plenty of it , but under all the grass.

On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 21:40:39 +0000, Dave Cornwell
wrote:

It's a bit like saying the reading
from Aviemore is only cold because it's at the top of a mountain.

Really ;-)

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