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Dear Editor

It’s shocking what has happened in Rotherham, and probably other cities
and towns across the country. For the sake of community harmony and the
police / social services not to be seen as racist, 1400 children are
sexually abused. The middle class liberals should hold their head in
shame.

This is the whole problem with political correctness it covers up the
truth so not to offend. It is true that the truth often offends. It’s
also true that when the truth is spoken problems get solved quickly.

What the middle class liberals doesn’t understand is that they are more
despised by the Muslims than any other type of British person,
particularly when it comes to gay and women’s rights. If anyone other
than a Muslim man was to order their women folk to hide themselves in a
burqa it would be seen as sexist.

In the Rotherham report it labels the perpetrators as Asian men, when in
actual fact most were Pakistani men, this casts a dark cloud over Indian
men. So by the report writers trying too not to offend, they have caused
exactly that, by insinuating Indian men are largely to blame also.

These Pakistani gangs will be allowed to operate with impunity if we
deny their existence in other areas of our country, in some sort of
twisted attempt to be anti-racist and culturally sensitive. The middle
class liberals, are loath to admit what it is going on. If we do not
tackle the problem head-on, and work together to combat this dreadful
abuse of children, the only beneficiaries will be the criminals.

Regards
Joe Egginton.

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On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:20:39 +0100, Joe Egginton
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Dear Editor

It’s shocking what has happened in Rotherham, and probably other cities
and towns across the country. For the sake of community harmony and the
police / social services not to be seen as racist, 1400 children are
sexually abused. The middle class liberals should hold their head in
shame.

This is the whole problem with political correctness it covers up the
truth so not to offend. It is true that the truth often offends. It’s
also true that when the truth is spoken problems get solved quickly.

What the middle class liberals doesn’t understand is that they are more
despised by the Muslims than any other type of British person,
particularly when it comes to gay and women’s rights. If anyone other
than a Muslim man was to order their women folk to hide themselves in a
burqa it would be seen as sexist.

In the Rotherham report it labels the perpetrators as Asian men, when in
actual fact most were Pakistani men, this casts a dark cloud over Indian
men. So by the report writers trying too not to offend, they have caused
exactly that, by insinuating Indian men are largely to blame also.

These Pakistani gangs will be allowed to operate with impunity if we
deny their existence in other areas of our country, in some sort of
twisted attempt to be anti-racist and culturally sensitive. The middle
class liberals, are loath to admit what it is going on. If we do not
tackle the problem head-on, and work together to combat this dreadful
abuse of children, the only beneficiaries will be the criminals.


there have been a stream of 'reports' of failures by 'social'
'services' stretching back several decades...

they are then stuck on dusty shelves and ignored...



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On 26/08/14 23:24, abelard wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:20:39 +0100, Joe Egginton
wrote:

Dear Editor

It’s shocking what has happened in Rotherham, and probably other cities
and towns across the country. For the sake of community harmony and the
police / social services not to be seen as racist, 1400 children are
sexually abused. The middle class liberals should hold their head in
shame.

This is the whole problem with political correctness it covers up the
truth so not to offend. It is true that the truth often offends. It’s
also true that when the truth is spoken problems get solved quickly.

What the middle class liberals doesn’t understand is that they are more
despised by the Muslims than any other type of British person,
particularly when it comes to gay and women’s rights. If anyone other
than a Muslim man was to order their women folk to hide themselves in a
burqa it would be seen as sexist.

In the Rotherham report it labels the perpetrators as Asian men, when in
actual fact most were Pakistani men, this casts a dark cloud over Indian
men. So by the report writers trying too not to offend, they have caused
exactly that, by insinuating Indian men are largely to blame also.

These Pakistani gangs will be allowed to operate with impunity if we
deny their existence in other areas of our country, in some sort of
twisted attempt to be anti-racist and culturally sensitive. The middle
class liberals, are loath to admit what it is going on. If we do not
tackle the problem head-on, and work together to combat this dreadful
abuse of children, the only beneficiaries will be the criminals.


there have been a stream of 'reports' of failures by 'social'
'services' stretching back several decades...

they are then stuck on dusty shelves and ignored...




The sensitivities surrounding race issues were an element of the problem
in this case.

Yet it's not a radically different picture in many other counties,
regardless of the ethnicity of those involved.

Often, when it comes to child protection authorities go for the easiest
cases instead of the most serious ones. Typically this will mean that
many of those children are taken from or refused custody are not those
endangering children to any great extent, but simply those unable to
defend themselves well. By contrast, offenders who do abuse and neglect
tend to have all the answers they want and the boxes ticked ready, and
get away with it.

In the Rotherham case we've a fairly small an insular community, which
allows those with influence to pull various levers to cover their tracks
such as silencing witnesses- perhaps with the threat of ostracisation or
reprisals.

Much the same is true amongst the upper classes where preferential
contacts with the law their influence brings makes the problem much
worse. Imagine a senior royal was a serial child abuser or even killer-
what would realistically be the chance of them being caught and
convicted? Even Cyril Smith was well and truly dead first and he wasn't
even cabinet level. The Jimmy Savile thing again emerging only after
he'd decomposed suggests others in rather higher places were up to the
same tricks and some of those didn't want him to talk which he may have
done if arrested alive.

Small rural communities are much like the ethnic ghettos, where everyone
knows everyone and is often related there's mutual interests in keeping
things under raps.

There's a danger that this will become an issue connected with just one
element of our society- it's not, many other similar situations exist in
all classes and ethnic groups around the UK. Whilst race might have been
the political hot potato hampering prosecution and protection in this
case, there are a multitude of other politically sensitive areas the kid
abusers can hide behind.
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:42:03 +0100, andy
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In the Rotherham case we've a fairly small an insular community, which
allows those with influence to pull various levers to cover their tracks
such as silencing witnesses- perhaps with the threat of ostracisation or
reprisals.

Despite your rather metropolitan view of the world north of the M-25
I'm afraid I now have to shatter your illusions and inform you that
Rotherham isn't some wattle and daub village in a swamp.

Not all the shops are 'Poundland' and you can buy food other than
pies or tripe.

It's an industrial city with a population of about a quarter of a
million with a Pakistani population of about ten thousand.

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On Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:20:39 UTC+1, jumper wrote:
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It�s shocking what has happened in Rotherham, and probably other cities

and towns across the country. For the sake of community harmony and the

police / social services not to be seen as racist, 1400 children are

sexually abused. The middle class liberals should hold their head in

shame.


I haven't replied to any of these threads yet, but I am not standing for your offensive, ultra-right-wing comments on "middle class liberals". Are you really so moronically stupid to think that all "middle class liberals" will sweep child sex abuse under the carpet?

Please direct your rants at a forum for the far right where I am sure you will find lots in sympathy. It has no place here - particularly in a weather newsgroup.


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The sensitivities surrounding race issues were an element of the problem
in this case.


Yet it's not a radically different picture in many other counties,
regardless of the ethnicity of those involved.


Yup, Pakis will be Pakis wherever they are.....

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On 27/08/2014 11:22, Nick wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:20:39 UTC+1, jumper wrote:
Dear Editor



It�s shocking what has happened in Rotherham, and probably other cities

and towns across the country. For the sake of community harmony and the

police / social services not to be seen as racist, 1400 children are

sexually abused. The middle class liberals should hold their head in

shame.


I haven't replied to any of these threads yet, but I am not standing for your offensive, ultra-right-wing comments on "middle class liberals". Are you really so moronically stupid to think that all "middle class liberals" will sweep child sex abuse under the carpet?

Please direct your rants at a forum for the far right where I am sure you will find lots in sympathy. It has no place here - particularly in a weather newsgroup.


Yes I do think middle class liberals will sweep child abuse under the
carpet, if it by the ethnic minorities. It's part of your culture to
have a positive bias towards ethnic minorities. To see the ethnic
minorities as oppressed, any true story that comes in the public domain
about ethnic minorities doing wrong, it is to be seen as unscrupulous
people trying to smear ethnic minorities.




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On 27/08/14 11:26, True Blue wrote:


The sensitivities surrounding race issues were an element of the
problem in this case.


Yet it's not a radically different picture in many other counties,
regardless of the ethnicity of those involved.


Yup, Pakis will be Pakis wherever they are.....


Some of the country's richest and highest status families have been
accused of interfering with the babies before they eat them.

Baby is often consumed on a bed of Ripped Horse, a traditional
Transylvanian delicacy introduced to the royal household by the
Battenbergs. A team of skilled master butchers expertly trim tender
slices of meat off a live horse with exquisitely crafted mediaeval
woodworking tools. Two types of strips are produced, called "chizzys"
and "zips", the former made with chisels and the latter, more expensive
and sought after variety with planes.
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On 27/08/14 13:04, andy wrote:
On 27/08/14 11:26, True Blue wrote:


The sensitivities surrounding race issues were an element of the
problem in this case.


Yet it's not a radically different picture in many other counties,
regardless of the ethnicity of those involved.


Yup, Pakis will be Pakis wherever they are.....


Some of the country's richest and highest status families have been
accused of interfering with the babies before they eat them.

Baby is often consumed on a bed of Ripped Horse, a traditional
Transylvanian delicacy introduced to the royal household by the
Battenbergs. A team of skilled master butchers expertly trim tender
slices of meat off a live horse with exquisitely crafted mediaeval
woodworking tools. Two types of strips are produced, called "chizzys"
and "zips", the former made with chisels and the latter, more expensive
and sought after variety with planes.


Though baby consumption by the highest English aristocratic families
goes back further.

Few know that the term "battering", which many British people
traditionally associate with their fish and chips actually comes from
the preparation of baby meat. Rather like tenderising rump steak, the
baby is battered thoroughly with a lump hammer before being fried, the
use of the hammer impacting the flesh creates a liquid, creamy coating
that crisps upon cooking. Hence "battering". Strange but true.

The baby is not however battered live. A large granite or marble
phallus, always black in colour, is hammered into the baby' rectal with
a mallet to humanely dispatch it.

Again, the terminology survives into contemporary use. Today, in adult
store across the British Isles you can buy replicas of the devices named
after the very nobleman who invented this culinary innovation- "The
Black Prince".




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On 27/08/2014 12:31, Joe Egginton wrote:
On 27/08/2014 11:22, Nick wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:20:39 UTC+1, jumper wrote:
Dear Editor



It�s shocking what has happened in Rotherham, and probably other
cities

and towns across the country. For the sake of community harmony and the

police / social services not to be seen as racist, 1400 children are

sexually abused. The middle class liberals should hold their head in

shame.


I haven't replied to any of these threads yet, but I am not standing
for your offensive, ultra-right-wing comments on "middle class
liberals". Are you really so moronically stupid to think that all
"middle class liberals" will sweep child sex abuse under the carpet?

Please direct your rants at a forum for the far right where I am sure
you will find lots in sympathy. It has no place here - particularly in
a weather newsgroup.


Yes I do think middle class liberals will sweep child abuse under the
carpet, if it by the ethnic minorities. It's part of your culture to
have a positive bias towards ethnic minorities. To see the ethnic
minorities as oppressed, any true story that comes in the public domain
about ethnic minorities doing wrong, it is to be seen as unscrupulous
people trying to smear ethnic minorities.



Political correctness is part of the middle class liberals culture, to
NOT offend at any cost.



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