I THINK I've sorted it. On the XP the files were in \program
files\weatherlink\ etc. On this machine everything is in \program files
(x86)\weatherlink. Once I got Weatherlink up for long enough to try
another upload I found the program was trying to find the uploaded data
in /program files [not (x86)]. Hunting around I found two files,
templateList.lst and uploadList.lst, which contained the old folder
references. I added (x86) where appropriate and fingers crossed,
everything seems to be running.

John

To be honest, I'm not surprised you might have been having problems on a
Windows 7/8 PC if WL had not been installed simply to C:\Weatherlink, which
is always the recommended folder nowadays**. There are all sorts of
potential security clashes if it's buried in \Program Files somewhere. There
are possible workarounds, though not always reliable, but it's 100% simpler
just to use C:\Weatherlink.

** Yes, I know that WL used to default to installing in the \Program Files\
folder once upon a time, but that was several years ago and before the
security changes that really started with Vista and then matured more in
7/8. The only folder recommended for installation now is C:\Weatherlink.

John Dann
www.weatherstations.co.uk

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 20:26:28 -0000, "General"
wrote:

To be honest, I'm not surprised you might have been having problems on a
Windows 7/8 PC if WL had not been installed simply to C:\Weatherlink, which
is always the recommended folder nowadays**. There are all sorts of
potential security clashes if it's buried in \Program Files somewhere. There
are possible workarounds, though not always reliable, but it's 100% simpler
just to use C:\Weatherlink.

I installed WeatherLink into my DropBox folder and have been running it
from there, via a shortcut to WL.exe on the desktop, for about two years
without any problems. The advantage to me is twofold:-

It provides a 'secure' store for all my data,

When I change my computer I don't have to re-instal WL.

I run Agent similarly.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

"Alan White" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 20:26:28 -0000, "General"
wrote:

To be honest, I'm not surprised you might have been having problems on a
Windows 7/8 PC if WL had not been installed simply to C:\Weatherlink, which
is always the recommended folder nowadays**. There are all sorts of
potential security clashes if it's buried in \Program Files somewhere.
There
are possible workarounds, though not always reliable, but it's 100% simpler
just to use C:\Weatherlink.

I installed WeatherLink into my DropBox folder and have been running it
from there, via a shortcut to WL.exe on the desktop, for about two years
without any problems. The advantage to me is twofold:-

It provides a 'secure' store for all my data,

When I change my computer I don't have to re-instal WL.

I run Agent similarly.
=================

If you know what you are doing you can install programs anywhere. That is
why the developers of WL give you an option, take the simple option or, if
you know what you are doing, do something else. In these days of cloud
computing it is rather quaint to install in C:\ ! :-)

Will
--
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

"Alan White" wrote in message
...

I installed WeatherLink into my DropBox folder and have been running it
from there, via a shortcut to WL.exe on the desktop, for about two years
without any problems.
=======================================

C:\Weatherlink certainly isn't the _only_ location that can be used and
whatever works for you is fine of course. However:

Any location within \Program Files\ really is best avoided. For some time
Windows has prevented programs writing back configuration data to locations
within \Program Files\ hence the various error messages and odd behaviour
that can result. Windows 7 etc does have automatic internal workarounds to
mitigate this but the installation can still end up less than robust and
with the data files being tricky to find.

C:\Weatherlink is the default location that's been used for some time now
and is where WL automatically looks when new updates are installed. For
locations other than C:\Weatherlink, updates need to be done more carefully
to ensure that the overall installation doesn't get split and hence stop
working.

I've never really looked at this in detail, but for USB loggers I suspect
that the USB driver doesn't install into the main WL folder but elsewhere.
If this is true then simply copying the WL folder to a new PC (ie an xcopy
approach) probably won't give a functional installation because there won't
be communication with the logger.

There's a distinction between where the main WL folder is located and where
the data files are placed. By default, these are both in the C:\Weatherlink
folder but they don't have to be. As above, I'd still suggest that
C:\Weatherlink is best for the main executables etc. However, when you
create a new station, this (and hence all the resulting data files) can be
located anywhere that you have reliable write access. So the station folder
could certainly be located in a Dropbox folder to give you automatic data
backup (or any one of the other folders used by similar
backup/synchronisation services, most obviously Onedrive (as used to be
Skydrive)).

JGD

C:\Weatherlink certainly isn't the _only_ location that can be used
and whatever works for you is fine of course. However:

Any location within \Program Files\ really is best avoided. For some
time Windows has prevented programs writing back configuration data to
locations within \Program Files\ hence the various error messages and
odd behaviour that can result. Windows 7 etc does have automatic
internal workarounds to mitigate this but the installation can still
end up less than robust and with the data files being tricky to find.

C:\Weatherlink is the default location that's been used for some time
now and is where WL automatically looks when new updates are
installed. For locations other than C:\Weatherlink, updates need to be
done more carefully to ensure that the overall installation doesn't
get split and hence stop working.

I've never really looked at this in detail, but for USB loggers I
suspect that the USB driver doesn't install into the main WL folder
but elsewhere. If this is true then simply copying the WL folder to a
new PC (ie an xcopy approach) probably won't give a functional
installation because there won't be communication with the logger.

There's a distinction between where the main WL folder is located and
where the data files are placed. By default, these are both in the
C:\Weatherlink folder but they don't have to be. As above, I'd still
suggest that C:\Weatherlink is best for the main executables etc.
However, when you create a new station, this (and hence all the
resulting data files) can be located anywhere that you have reliable
write access. So the station folder could certainly be located in a
Dropbox folder to give you automatic data backup (or any one of the
other folders used by similar backup/synchronisation services, most
obviously Onedrive (as used to be Skydrive)).

JGD

The problem with installing into C:\Weatherlink is that if you have
Windows 8.1 File History won't backup the data and I don't think it is
possible to configure file history to include this directory - if anyone
knows otherwise I am sure they will say that I am wrong.

With Windows 7 and Windows 8, Windows 7 backup is available which will
backup all files.

I have installed the product to a dedicated folder in the 'My
Documents' folder which means the files are backed up automatically.

Davis should modify the product so the executables are held in a Program
Files directory and the data is saved in a dedicated 'My Documents'
folder, it's how most software products work such as Microsoft Office.

Alan

"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message
6...

The problem with installing into C:\Weatherlink is that if you have
Windows 8.1 File History won't backup the data and I don't think it is
possible to configure file history to include this directory - if anyone
knows otherwise I am sure they will say that I am wrong.
==============================================

If you want automatic backup then the best answer (IMO of course) is still
to install the software to C:\Weatherlink (to make subsequent software
updates simpler). It may be quaint, but it's simple and it works. But, as
suggested above, to create the station folder (ie where all the weather data
files are located) in the folder location of your choice. Yes My Documents
is one option. But Onedrive is another good option these days so that you
can get cloud backup.

In a different galaxy, without doubt Davis should rewrite the software so
that it does once again install into \Program Files\ but with configuration
files being written to eg one of the AppData folders and perhaps Station
folders being located by default within Onedrive. But I'm not sure that
anything is likely to happen on that front imminently, given that AIUI the
future direction of WL is under more fundamental review.

JGD

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 08:19:49 -0000, "Eskimo Will"
wrote:

If you know what you are doing you can install programs anywhere. That is
why the developers of WL give you an option, take the simple option or, if
you know what you are doing, do something else. In these days of cloud
computing it is rather quaint to install in C:\ ! :-)

Although DropBox is a cloud, the DropBox folder exists on any computer
on which you have it installed which are then synchronised to the cloud.
If you have, as we do, a PC, a laptop and a Mac, this is invaluable. An
ios DropBox app is available which means my iPhone and iPad are also in
step with everything else.

The path to our WL is
C:\Users\Alan\Dropbox\Private\Weather\WeatherLink\ WeatherLink 6.0.0.exe
This looks cumbersome but then you only have to instal it once.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 08:25:47 -0000, "General"
wrote:

I've never really looked at this in detail, but for USB loggers I suspect
that the USB driver doesn't install into the main WL folder but elsewhere.
If this is true then simply copying the WL folder to a new PC (ie an xcopy
approach) probably won't give a functional installation because there won't
be communication with the logger.

Our old WMII looks for a serial port so I've had to use a serial to USB
converter. This required a driver but once installed, WL picks up the
correct Comm port with no problems. I use an old laptop dedicated to WL.
When it packed up, all I needed to do was to install DropBox on its
replacement, wait for it to synchronise with the cloud, install the
serial to USB driver, connect the WMII and it was back in business in
about ten minutes with no loss of current or historical data. Brilliant!

I suspect that copying the WL folder across to another computer could
worry the registry a bit. I wouldn't recommend it.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

"General" wrote in
:

"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message

If you want automatic backup then the best answer (IMO of course) is
still to install the software to C:\Weatherlink (to make subsequent
software updates simpler). It may be quaint, but it's simple and it
works. But, as suggested above, to create the station folder (ie where
all the weather data files are located) in the folder location of your
choice. Yes My Documents is one option. But Onedrive is another good
option these days so that you can get cloud backup.

In a different galaxy, without doubt Davis should rewrite the software
so that it does once again install into \Program Files\ but with
configuration files being written to eg one of the AppData folders and
perhaps Station folders being located by default within Onedrive. But
I'm not sure that anything is likely to happen on that front
imminently, given that AIUI the future direction of WL is under more
fundamental review.

JGD


Using Onedrive in teh way you mention is a good idea, I do backup there
as well as I'm a bit paranoid about data loss.

I'm intrigued about the future development of Waetherlink, are you in a
position to reveal more?

Alan