On 10/02/2015 16:17, Jim Cannon wrote:
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:11:59 AM UTC, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Jim
Cannon writes
On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 7:50:50 PM UTC, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Martin Brown
writes
On 08/02/2015 20:41, Jim Cannon wrote:
The guvnor went along to the RMetS socierty meeting on Saturday. Here
is his report

"The Failure & Fraud

[snip incoherent denier rant]

of the Grand Charlatan and his sock puppet are clear for all to see.

Interesting that he counts failing to ask a question as "success" that
is much like the self professed successes of his so called forecasts.

It smacks of desperation t be believed, but in fact as the opposite
effect.

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On the contrary Malcolm!! The gaffer collared a few NEW subscribers
after the meeting exasperated RMETS members who are tired of being lied
to and are looking for better VALUE for money from WeatherAction

As I have your attention, Jim, please could you ask Piers what went
wrong with this piece of his forecasting, issued on December 9th 2014:

"The massive storm (map below for 10th 12noon) now heading for Britain
and Ireland 9/10th bringing blizzard conditions for most parts and
damaging gales or storms in all parts is essentially our top active
period 5-8th extended a day or two.
"This will then develop to set up the more Northerly VERY SEVERE
SNOW AND BLIZZARD BLAST WITH EXTREME COLD AND GALES for the following
period Friday 12th to Tue 16th . This was always forecast by
WeatherAction (from 100days ahead with detail 27days ahead) to be more
extreme and severe then 5-8th and that looks like what is going to hit.
"This will probably be the most extreme 5 days of snow blizzards and
and gales in Britain and Ireland for 100 years, being more severe than
the worst events of December 2010 (which were also correctly forecast by
WeatherAction)."

Over to you, Jim Cannon.

Are you a subscriber Malcolm? If so, and you are not 100% HAPPY with the service, you have the right to return your subscription. On the EXTREMELY rare occasion subs are unhappy weatheraction can take action. At the moment their are one or two taking our vastly reduced rate in view of any snow disappointment.
Which is MORE than you can say for the Met Office! Every time they get a forecast wrong we dont get tax rebates do we! The amount of times theyve dropped a clanger I think wed all be MILLIONAIRES LOL!!!

Answer the question that you were asked.

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 9:45:40 PM UTC, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Jim
Cannon writes
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:40:14 PM UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 7:35:31 PM UTC, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Jim
Cannon writes
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:11:59 AM UTC, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Jim
Cannon writes
On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 7:50:50 PM UTC, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Martin Brown
writes
On 08/02/2015 20:41, Jim Cannon wrote:
The guvnor went along to the RMetS socierty meeting on
Saturday. Here
is his report

"The Failure & Fraud

[snip incoherent denier rant]

of the Grand Charlatan and his sock puppet are clear for all to see.

Interesting that he counts failing to ask a question as
"success" that
is much like the self professed successes of his so called


It smacks of desperation t be believed, but in fact as the opposite
effect.

--
On the contrary Malcolm!! The gaffer collared a few NEW subscribers
after the meeting exasperated RMETS members who are tired of being lied
to and are looking for better VALUE for money from WeatherAction

As I have your attention, Jim, please could you ask Piers what went
wrong with this piece of his forecasting, issued on December 9th 2014:

"The massive storm (map below for 10th 12noon) now heading for Britain
and Ireland 9/10th bringing blizzard conditions for most parts and
damaging gales or storms in all parts is essentially our top active
period 5-8th extended a day or two.
"This will then develop to set up the more Northerly VERY SEVERE
SNOW AND BLIZZARD BLAST WITH EXTREME COLD AND GALES for the following
period Friday 12th to Tue 16th . This was always forecast by
WeatherAction (from 100days ahead with detail 27days ahead) to be more
extreme and severe then 5-8th and that looks like what is going to hit.
"This will probably be the most extreme 5 days of snow
blizzards and
and gales in Britain and Ireland for 100 years, being more severe than
the worst events of December 2010 (which were also correctly forecast by
WeatherAction)."

Over to you, Jim Cannon.

Are you a subscriber Malcolm? If so, and you are not 100% HAPPY with
the service, you have the right to return your subscription. On the
EXTREMELY rare occasion subs are unhappy weatheraction can take action.
At the moment their are one or two taking our vastly reduced rate in
view of any snow disappointment.
Which is MORE than you can say for the Met Office! Every time they get
a forecast wrong we dont get tax rebates do we! The amount of times
theyve dropped a clanger I think wed all be MILLIONAIRES LOL!!!

Dear Jim

I asked you a question and you did what everyone does when asked a
question they can't answer, you asked a question of me and then tried
diversionary tactics. I wasn't asking about the Met Office's forecasts,
I was asking about this particular forecast of Corbyn who repeatedly
claims how much better he is than the Met Office.

Now, would you please re-read my question and answer it. I want to know
what went wrong with that forecast posted here by you and repeating
Corbyn's very definite forecast. It didn't contain any "ifs" or "buts",
but instead clear statements of what was going to happen, including on
the very next day, which almost anyone is capable of forecasting, even
me. But not apparently Corbyn.

So, what went wrong?

--
Malcolm

Waiting........... and laughing at piers' inability to cope with
this simple question

Its above my pay grade lads but heres one possible explanation:

"a massive dark solar filament is on the earth facing portion of the
sun ===http://ow.ly/IOChZ ===. This filament is "a tendril of plasma
more than 1,000,000 km long held suspended above the surface of the sun
by **magnetic forces**" [SpaceWeather 9 Feb 15]. It stretches from one
side of suns southern hemisphere to the other. If youve been around
here for some time then you will notice these dark solar filaments have
put out previous cold forecasts in years gone by. Now why should it
affect the forecast? Well Sir Piers theory is based upon the
earth-solar (lunar modulated) MAGNETIC CONNECTION which affects
circulation patterns/jetstream. This will affect the connection. This
image gives a very good representation of magnetic field lines around
the filament === http://ow.ly/IOATi === Ive been watching it since 3rd
Feb (it has trebled in size since then) but how/if this has an impact
on fcasts+going forward?

Yet more diversionary tactics.

I asked about 9th/10 December 2014 and you respond with comments about
3rd February 2015

Why don't you just confess that Corbyn made a complete balls up of that
forecast?


--
Malcolm

Still waiting for piers................... quite hilarious

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:11:59 AM UTC, Malcolm wrote:


As I have your attention, Jim, please could you ask Piers what went
wrong with this piece of his forecasting, issued on December 9th 2014:

"The massive storm (map below for 10th 12noon) now heading for Britain
and Ireland 9/10th bringing blizzard conditions for most parts and
damaging gales or storms in all parts is essentially our top active
period 5-8th extended a day or two.
"This will then develop to set up the more Northerly VERY SEVERE
SNOW AND BLIZZARD BLAST WITH EXTREME COLD AND GALES for the following
period Friday 12th to Tue 16th . This was always forecast by
WeatherAction (from 100days ahead with detail 27days ahead) to be more
extreme and severe then 5-8th and that looks like what is going to hit.
"This will probably be the most extreme 5 days of snow blizzards and
and gales in Britain and Ireland for 100 years, being more severe than
the worst events of December 2010 (which were also correctly forecast by
WeatherAction)."

Over to you, Jim Cannon.

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One could also add questions regarding the assertions that:

1. Last August was likely to experience record-breaking heat (when in fact it was the only month of 2014 that was cooler than average): "It is going to be mostly sunny and very pleasant and we could even beat the record high for August of 101.3F (38.5C) set in 2003. We are definitely looking at what could turn out to be the hottest August on record after a cooler start to the month."

2. February 2015 could "bring some of the coldest weather for generations" to the UK.


Stephen.

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 7:10:25 PM UTC, Jim Cannon wrote:
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 5:12:10 PM UTC, John Hall wrote:

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Yes but people have a choice of whether they want to subscribe to Sir Piers. The Met Office is just foisted on people / the ones who pay tax that is

Like the army, RAF and Navy foisted upon us? Not to mention the NHS foisted upon us, education foisted upon us, the police foisted upon us?

It might be a revealing and a good response to the Met Office haters to see how much the Met Office forecasting saves the nation.

On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 10:02:20 UTC, Stephen Davenport wrote:

1. We are definitely looking at what could turn out to be the hottest August on record after a cooler start to the month."

2. February 2015 could "bring some of the coldest weather for generations" to the UK.

Oh Stephen for goodness' sake note the "could". Can't you interpret his forecasts properly?

Meanwhile in my first forecast at Dixon Agreeable Weather Solutions, I reveal how London tomorrow could have 6 inches of snow.

Richard

Richard Dixon wrote:

On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 10:02:20 UTC, Stephen Davenport wrote:

1. We are definitely looking at what could turn out to be the hottest
August on record after a cooler start to the month."

2. February 2015 could "bring some of the coldest weather for generations"
to the UK.

Oh Stephen for goodness' sake note the "could". Can't you interpret his
forecasts properly?

Meanwhile in my first forecast at Dixon Agreeable Weather Solutions, I reveal
how London tomorrow could have 6 inches of snow.

Richard

The scuttlebut around the village here this morning is that 'they' say that
there'll be more heavy snow here at the end of next week. When quizzed, though,
no-one seemed to know who 'they' are. Once started, these rumours really do
spread around like wildfire. I generally keep silent on these matters :-)

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 13:24:40 UTC, Norman wrote:

The scuttlebut around the village here this morning is that 'they' say that
there'll be more heavy snow here at the end of next week. When quizzed, though,
no-one seemed to know who 'they' are. Once started, these rumours really do
spread around like wildfire. I generally keep silent on these matters :-)

Being "the bloke who does the weather" amongst my friends, I reckon about 25% of them will ask me at some point in the winter "I've heard we're going to get a cold winter/month/spell - is this true?"

I usually ask whether they read it in the Mail/Express...

Richard

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 1:15:07 PM UTC, Richard Dixon wrote:


Oh Stephen for goodness' sake note the "could". Can't you interpret his forecasts properly?

Meanwhile in my first forecast at Dixon Agreeable Weather Solutions, I reveal how London tomorrow could have 6 inches of snow.

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I consider myself rightfully upbraided. I think I must have got confused by the inclusion also of the word "definitely". I should start using that phraseology in my own forecasts: "definitely could" is a tremendous get-out from a busted forecast if one is also implying "certainly might not".

By the way, two things about the meeting: since when was heckling considered so laudable anyway? And it fails to mention the chuckling that rippled around the room.

Stephen.

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 1:24:40 PM UTC, Norman wrote:
Richard Dixon wrote:

On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 10:02:20 UTC, Stephen Davenport wrote:

1. We are definitely looking at what could turn out to be the hottest
August on record after a cooler start to the month."

2. February 2015 could "bring some of the coldest weather for generations"
to the UK.

Oh Stephen for goodness' sake note the "could". Can't you interpret his
forecasts properly?

Meanwhile in my first forecast at Dixon Agreeable Weather Solutions, I reveal
how London tomorrow could have 6 inches of snow.

Richard

The scuttlebut around the village here this morning is that 'they' say that
there'll be more heavy snow here at the end of next week. When quizzed, though,
no-one seemed to know who 'they' are. Once started, these rumours really do
spread around like wildfire. I generally keep silent on these matters :-)

========

There'll be more heavy snow in New England, though. And I'm not joking when I suggest that it might be seized upon in some quarters as some sort of verification.

Stephen.

In message , Norman
writes
The scuttlebut around the village here this morning is that 'they' say
that there'll be more heavy snow here at the end of next week. When
quizzed, though, no-one seemed to know who 'they' are. Once started,
these rumours really do spread around like wildfire. I generally keep
silent on these matters :-)

I wonder what the Daily Express front page headline is today? They are
always a prime suspect. I've just looked on their website, and there
doesn't seem to be anything there.
--
I'm not paid to implement the recognition of irony.
(Taken, with the author's permission, from a LiveJournal post)