Graham wrote:



I've been keeping an eye on the GFS op runs for Christmas Day / coupled
with Xmas snow odds since T+384z was in range. Odds have stayed the same
but weather outcome has varied - though seems to be settling in for
possibly record warmth.

Think I'll be wearing T shirt & shorts for my Christmas day meal
This month is going to be so mild it's obscene really.
I can see this muck lasting well into January. Oh well maybe it will do a
1975 and we will get a white Easter

Vile day today, foggy and dripping wet, already had 10 of the 15 days with no
sun. 15 days gone..................sun hours a pathetic 11.3 hours

8.0 hours here, Graham. Unrelenting thick fog today.

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On Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:04:00 UTC, wrote:
"Graham" wrote in message
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Had much less than that Graham, just a few hours here. Vile again here
today too.

Will 3 months of this and we will all be totally depressed. Don't get me
wrong the warmth's ok, it's just the ****e it brings with it!


Don't worry it won't last 3 months. It's all down to El Nino apparently and
you can read it all here
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pd...emp-DJF_v2.pdf

Fortunately this vile SW'ly mild spell has done little damage to winter as I
normally reckon on winter starting around 21st lasting into March.
Other years have had similar, but not quite this bad.

Have you written a winter forecast, Will? URL please if so


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On Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:08:38 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
I saved the GFS operational of Nov 22nd for December 1st. It verified
very well. I see the GFS operational predicted for December 28th is
virtually the same! Need a pattern change from this dull drizzly mild dross.
Dave, S.Essex

The Mrs. bought me an early Xmas present-an outdoor LED strip light set plus solar panel.
I put it outside on the S. facing balcony. It's yet to come on!

On 15/12/2015 19:03, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Graham" wrote in message
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Had much less than that Graham, just a few hours here. Vile again
here today too.

Will 3 months of this and we will all be totally depressed. Don't get
me wrong the warmth's ok, it's just the ****e it brings with it!


Don't worry it won't last 3 months. It's all down to El Nino apparently
and you can read it all here
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pd...emp-DJF_v2.pdf

Fortunately this vile SW'ly mild spell has done little damage to winter
as I normally reckon on winter starting around 21st lasting into March.
Other years have had similar, but not quite this bad.

Will

5 days now with no sun recorded here...

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Keith (Southend)
"Weather Home & Abroad"
http://www.southendweather.net
Twitter:@SS9Weatherman

On Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:08:38 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
I saved the GFS operational of Nov 22nd for December 1st. It verified
very well. I see the GFS operational predicted for December 28th is
virtually the same! Need a pattern change from this dull drizzly mild dross.
Dave, S.Essex

Repeating charts ? Try Rennie's .

On 15/12/2015 23:34, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:08:38 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
I saved the GFS operational of Nov 22nd for December 1st. It verified
very well. I see the GFS operational predicted for December 28th is
virtually the same! Need a pattern change from this dull drizzly mild dross.
Dave, S.Essex

Repeating charts ? Try Rennie's .


Will it repeat until 2nd Feb? Groundhog Day.

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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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On 15/12/2015 19:03, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Graham" wrote in message
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Had much less than that Graham, just a few hours here. Vile again
here today too.

Will 3 months of this and we will all be totally depressed. Don't get
me wrong the warmth's ok, it's just the ****e it brings with it!


Don't worry it won't last 3 months. It's all down to El Nino apparently
and you can read it all here
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pd...emp-DJF_v2.pdf

Fortunately this vile SW'ly mild spell has done little damage to winter
as I normally reckon on winter starting around 21st lasting into March.
Other years have had similar, but not quite this bad.

5 days now with no sun recorded here...


If only we had this situation in July!
Wasted in late autumn.

Will
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Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On 15/12/2015 22:18, Keith (Southend) wrote:
On 15/12/2015 19:03, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Graham" wrote in message
...


Had much less than that Graham, just a few hours here. Vile again
here today too.

Will 3 months of this and we will all be totally depressed. Don't get
me wrong the warmth's ok, it's just the ****e it brings with it!


Don't worry it won't last 3 months. It's all down to El Nino apparently
and you can read it all here
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pd...emp-DJF_v2.pdf

Fortunately this vile SW'ly mild spell has done little damage to winter
as I normally reckon on winter starting around 21st lasting into March.
Other years have had similar, but not quite this bad.

Will

5 days now with no sun recorded here...

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You're not paying attention Keith - I had 3 minutes yesterday!
Dave

On 16/12/2015 08:29, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
On 15/12/2015 19:03, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Graham" wrote in message
...


Had much less than that Graham, just a few hours here. Vile again
here today too.

Will 3 months of this and we will all be totally depressed. Don't get
me wrong the warmth's ok, it's just the ****e it brings with it!


Don't worry it won't last 3 months. It's all down to El Nino apparently
and you can read it all here
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pd...emp-DJF_v2.pdf

Fortunately this vile SW'ly mild spell has done little damage to winter
as I normally reckon on winter starting around 21st lasting into March.
Other years have had similar, but not quite this bad.

5 days now with no sun recorded here...


If only we had this situation in July!
Wasted in late autumn.

Will
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Unusually many of us are stuck in the same situation. Not everyone, but
I'm sure the majority like it cold in winter more because of the
brightness it usually brings, even if only off of reflected light from
the snow on the ground, rather than the cold itself. Yes, snow can
cause problems, but let's face it, it is beautiful isn't it. Plus these
days there is the bonus of seeing a rare weather phenomenon !
Dave, S.Essex

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 6:51:21 PM UTC, wrote:
"Graham" wrote in message
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15 hours here - it is dire. The only thing to commend it is the low
heating bills. I've slept with the window open every day this month - I
often have to close it in the summer!

Same here!
I know I moaned about the snow last month but I have a feeling that 's the
only snow we will see year and indeed maybe the whole Winter
The mild stuff's ok when it's dry and the sun pops out once in a while.
I'm afraid most of the time all this set up brings is endless days of
total dross!


Agreed it's the pits. Made even worse by people saying "at least it is mild"
as if that is any consolation for perpetual gloom and dampness.
Give me sun and -10C any day, or even sun and +10C, or even sun .... what's
that you ask?

Will
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Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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'At least its mild'. Because, fortunately, it is and it is far more preferable to lowland snow and ice before Christmas. This Christmas is highly likely to be green and mild for most; exactly what Christmas travellers - including my family - need! Snow and ice would add up to a Christmas nightmare for so many.

We had a couple of hours of sun in Dawlish and 14C (yet again). Back to murk now, but this murk is far more preferable to the white stuff in the run-up to the 25th.