'great men'


Oh just hilarious! 😀😀😀😀😀 hughes thinks he walks with 'great men'. One of them being the resident newsgroup racist

Brilliant! Do keep it up, hughes. It's wonderful entertainment; just wonderful.

Yes, I know. Hence my follow-up post.

There are no comparisons. If you feel there are, that's a difficulty of yours, Freddie; not mine.

On Sunday, 21 February 2016 16:40:30 UTC, haaark wrote:
I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its death spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of sending hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day comes to an end, anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash.
Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight waffler who today came up with a classic.
Talking about the two ways of looking at winter's end, he said that one way was the end of February, and the other was the astrological way-i.e.March 21st.
Like almost everybody and his wife these days, he must have a degree.
Did he get it from the University of Glastonbury?

I remember reading-it must be 40 years ago at least- that no weather forecaster worth his salt would open his mouth without looking out the window first.
How many forecasters today even have windows?

dawlish Wrote in message:
Someone in the street you accidentally bump into calls you an idiot.

Someone in the street you accidentally bump into calls you a c*nt.

You'd take similar offence? Really?
Are you referring to my post? Please quote - it provides context.
If you were referring to my post then you didn't read it
correctly - or more likely you were projecting again. I actually
said that I take similar offence at the flowery prose you use to
convey insults as I do with the word c*nt.

No chance.
I'm sorry? Are you now telling me that you know better than me
about whether or not I would take offence? Hahaha - you're
wrong.

--
Freddie
Pontesbury
Shropshire
102m AMSL
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http://twitter.com/PontesburyWx for hourly reports


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"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 11:12:33 UTC, Jumper wrote:
On 23/02/2016 09:15, haaark wrote:
On Sunday, 21 February 2016 16:40:30 UTC, haaark wrote:
I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality
broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its
death spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of
sending hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day comes
to an end, anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash.
Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight
waffler who today came up with a classic.
Talking about the two ways of looking at winter's end, he said that one
way was the end of February, and the other was the astrological
way-i.e.March 21st.
Like almost everybody and his wife these days, he must have a degree.
Did he get it from the University of Glastonbury?
What started off as a lament for the quality press, and continued with
the usual gratuitous vulgar abuse from a resident troll, has ended up
with sad news about PE.
I've followed him for at least at least twenty years. Where else would
you find out that in the 1850's-60's Sydney had its coldest ever
winter's day? A southerly blast from the Antarctic with a max. temp. of
3C! Coming from any other source you wouldn't believe it.
All the best PE. Get well soon.



Unfortunately, all good things come to an end eventually. :-(

That's a bit trite. Phillip is only 64.
============

Yes just a few months older than me and I feel young still.

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

"haaark" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 21 February 2016 16:40:30 UTC, haaark wrote:
I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality
broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its death
spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of sending
hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day comes to an end,
anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash.
Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight waffler
who today came up with a classic.
Talking about the two ways of looking at winter's end, he said that one
way was the end of February, and the other was the astrological
way-i.e.March 21st.
Like almost everybody and his wife these days, he must have a degree.
Did he get it from the University of Glastonbury?

I remember reading-it must be 40 years ago at least- that no weather
forecaster worth his salt would open his mouth without looking out the
window first.
How many forecasters today even have windows?

====================

Most of the forecasters in the MetO are locked in steel cabinets and are
made of silicon and have a byte at breakfast time.

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:25:28 -0000, "Eskimo Will"
wrote:


"haaark" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 21 February 2016 16:40:30 UTC, haaark wrote:
I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality
broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its death
spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of sending
hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day comes to an end,
anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash.
Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight waffler
who today came up with a classic.
Talking about the two ways of looking at winter's end, he said that one
way was the end of February, and the other was the astrological
way-i.e.March 21st.
Like almost everybody and his wife these days, he must have a degree.
Did he get it from the University of Glastonbury?

I remember reading-it must be 40 years ago at least- that no weather
forecaster worth his salt would open his mouth without looking out the
window first.
How many forecasters today even have windows?

====================

Most of the forecasters in the MetO are locked in steel cabinets and are
made of silicon and have a byte at breakfast time.

Will


I think that confirms the point :-)

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

"Norman Lynagh" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:25:28 -0000, "Eskimo Will"

wrote:


"haaark" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 21 February 2016 16:40:30 UTC, haaark wrote:
I know it's been many years since the DT and ST were real quality
broadsheets. I also know that the circulation of hard copy is in its
death
spiral-five years maybe I'd guess before the anachronism of sending
hundreds of tons of newsprint round the country every day comes to an
end,
anyone?-and the papers must be haemorrhaging cash.
Phillip Eden's successor at the ST is Peter Stanford,a lightweight
waffler
who today came up with a classic.
Talking about the two ways of looking at winter's end, he said that one
way was the end of February, and the other was the astrological
way-i.e.March 21st.
Like almost everybody and his wife these days, he must have a degree.
Did he get it from the University of Glastonbury?

I remember reading-it must be 40 years ago at least- that no weather
forecaster worth his salt would open his mouth without looking out the
window first.
How many forecasters today even have windows?

====================

Most of the forecasters in the MetO are locked in steel cabinets and are
made of silicon and have a byte at breakfast time.

Will


I think that confirms the point :-)


:-)

One thing I will say, however, is that a big change coming is not just an
increase in model resolution but a revolution in data assimilation. This has
been long coming where data are continually assimilated properly including
all different data types. The MetO fully intend to make use of WOW
information in model analyses and a whole host of other data types. They
will be able to do this due to improved data error co-variances and some
cunning mathematical trickery which I cannot go into here. This is due to
happen by the end of this decade. So although Mr Silicon will not be looking
out of the window he will be more aware of what is going on minute by
minute!

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

In message , Eskimo Will
writes
snip
The MetO fully intend to make use of WOW information in model analyses
and a whole host of other data types. They will be able to do this due
to improved data error co-variances and some cunning mathematical
trickery which I cannot go into here. This is due to happen by the end
of this decade.

That makes me a little uneasy. Will they be able to get rid of all the
wrong data, of which I'm sure there must be a lot on WOW? And there's
also the opposite problem that, the more stringent their checks, the
greater the risk that some valid and important - but unexpected - data
might be discarded. Take the Hampstead thunderstorm in August 1975, for
instance, when a phenomenal amount of rain fell in an hour or so when
IIRC practically everywhere else in the country was dry. I can imagine
the vetting algorithm seeing a WOW report of say 160mm of rain and -
with no other reports of rain - deciding that it must be a typo for 16mm
or even 1.6mm.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

On 25/02/2016 10:23, John Hall wrote:
In message , Eskimo Will
writes
snip
The MetO fully intend to make use of WOW information in model analyses
and a whole host of other data types. They will be able to do this due
to improved data error co-variances and some cunning mathematical
trickery which I cannot go into here. This is due to happen by the end
of this decade.

That makes me a little uneasy. Will they be able to get rid of all the
wrong data, of which I'm sure there must be a lot on WOW? And there's
also the opposite problem that, the more stringent their checks, the
greater the risk that some valid and important - but unexpected - data
might be discarded. Take the Hampstead thunderstorm in August 1975, for
instance, when a phenomenal amount of rain fell in an hour or so when
IIRC practically everywhere else in the country was dry. I can imagine
the vetting algorithm seeing a WOW report of say 160mm of rain and -
with no other reports of rain - deciding that it must be a typo for 16mm
or even 1.6mm.

Yes, these were my thoughts as well. If you look at the WOW homepage
there are very obviously a (minority) of AWS which suffer from poor
exposure and/or inaccurate instrumentation. The same thing is obvious
when looking at Weather Underground maps as well. As long as some
filtering/moderation of data from such AWS data takes place then I would
agree they have a value. I would add that all the folk I've spoken with
over the years who've set up AWS have been most conscientious in
ensuring that their data is as accurate as can be. However we now have a
lot of low cost units available which are set up with insufficient
regard for siting requirements.

--
George in Swanston, Edinburgh, 580'asl
www.swanstonweather.co.uk
www.eppingweather.co.uk
www.winter1947.co.uk