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I must admit I rarely dip in because the signal/noise ratio is too low.
I'm happy to be broad in my definition of "science", but less so for "weather"! I think a monitored or invitation only group is the only way. If someone does go this way could you please inviting me? Trevor Weather now at: www.trevorharley.com |
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Trevor
Have a look at my post "from the ashes..." If you or anyone else wants to join I promise that I'll moderate it, apply the rules and add content that I publish in my own blog (well the ones about weather and climate). If I don't get a dozen members in the first month then I know it's been a big mistake which I'm sure it is. This is a bit (a tiny bit) like the film Field of Dreams - build it and they will come - realistically after the response from the group so far (which I fully expected) I don't think a new group like "weather and climate" would ever take off. The only strength is its simplicity and the resolve of its membership to make it work. It's certainly got the first one! Bruce. |
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![]() "xmetman" wrote in message ... Trevor Have a look at my post "from the ashes..." If you or anyone else wants to join I promise that I'll moderate it, apply the rules and add content that I publish in my own blog (well the ones about weather and climate). If I don't get a dozen members in the first month then I know it's been a big mistake which I'm sure it is. This is a bit (a tiny bit) like the film Field of Dreams - build it and they will come - realistically after the response from the group so far (which I fully expected) I don't think a new group like "weather and climate" would ever take off. The only strength is its simplicity and the resolve of its membership to make it work. It's certainly got the first one! ============= Good luck Bruce. Have to say that Dawlish tried to set up a forum a few years ago "Totally weather and Climate" (or something like that) and it failed miserably. I still do not see the need for it as there are already established fora out there with teams of moderators UKWW, TWO, NetWeather etc etc. Also a word of advice, moderating will be a full-time commitment 24/7, be very very sure before you embark on this. You could of course set up a group where posts are only released after moderation (like UKMO) but then it doesn't "move". Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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On Thursday, 30 June 2016 11:47:32 UTC+1, wrote:
"xmetman" wrote in message ... Trevor Have a look at my post "from the ashes..." If you or anyone else wants to join I promise that I'll moderate it, apply the rules and add content that I publish in my own blog (well the ones about weather and climate). If I don't get a dozen members in the first month then I know it's been a big mistake which I'm sure it is. This is a bit (a tiny bit) like the film Field of Dreams - build it and they will come - realistically after the response from the group so far (which I fully expected) I don't think a new group like "weather and climate" would ever take off. The only strength is its simplicity and the resolve of its membership to make it work. It's certainly got the first one! ============= Good luck Bruce. Have to say that Dawlish tried to set up a forum a few years ago "Totally weather and Climate" (or something like that) and it failed miserably. I still do not see the need for it as there are already established fora out there with teams of moderators UKWW, TWO, NetWeather etc etc. Also a word of advice, moderating will be a full-time commitment 24/7, be very very sure before you embark on this. You could of course set up a group where posts are only released after moderation (like UKMO) but then it doesn't "move". Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- Will Thanks for the advice. I hadn't realised that Dawlish had tried it, what a strange forum that would be? Global warming deniers barred! And that's got me thinking how do I deal with that kind of topic! I am sat at my PC most days programming and ejecting the occasional blog, but 24/7 I can't do and that might be where the whole venture flounders. Weather is 24/7 but the poor old moderator has to shopping at Tesco's this morning. Perhaps I can 'trust' people and let them by without moderating? Or maybe give them a couple of yellow cards before sending them off? I'm off to see if I can find an appropriate book on Amazon "How to run and moderate a web forum". Bruce. |
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![]() "xmetman" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 30 June 2016 11:47:32 UTC+1, wrote: "xmetman" wrote in message ... Trevor Have a look at my post "from the ashes..." If you or anyone else wants to join I promise that I'll moderate it, apply the rules and add content that I publish in my own blog (well the ones about weather and climate). If I don't get a dozen members in the first month then I know it's been a big mistake which I'm sure it is. This is a bit (a tiny bit) like the film Field of Dreams - build it and they will come - realistically after the response from the group so far (which I fully expected) I don't think a new group like "weather and climate" would ever take off. The only strength is its simplicity and the resolve of its membership to make it work. It's certainly got the first one! ============= Good luck Bruce. Have to say that Dawlish tried to set up a forum a few years ago "Totally weather and Climate" (or something like that) and it failed miserably. I still do not see the need for it as there are already established fora out there with teams of moderators UKWW, TWO, NetWeather etc etc. Also a word of advice, moderating will be a full-time commitment 24/7, be very very sure before you embark on this. You could of course set up a group where posts are only released after moderation (like UKMO) but then it doesn't "move". Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- Will Thanks for the advice. I hadn't realised that Dawlish had tried it, what a strange forum that would be? Global warming deniers barred! And that's got me thinking how do I deal with that kind of topic! Hi Bruce, Dawlish did it in a cunning way. he had a friend who was a sceptic, I hate the word "denier" ,and they had chats in the forum. It kinda worked. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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On Thursday, 30 June 2016 12:30:34 UTC+1, wrote:
"xmetman" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 30 June 2016 11:47:32 UTC+1, wrote: "xmetman" wrote in message ... Trevor Have a look at my post "from the ashes..." If you or anyone else wants to join I promise that I'll moderate it, apply the rules and add content that I publish in my own blog (well the ones about weather and climate). If I don't get a dozen members in the first month then I know it's been a big mistake which I'm sure it is. This is a bit (a tiny bit) like the film Field of Dreams - build it and they will come - realistically after the response from the group so far (which I fully expected) I don't think a new group like "weather and climate" would ever take off. The only strength is its simplicity and the resolve of its membership to make it work. It's certainly got the first one! ============= Good luck Bruce. Have to say that Dawlish tried to set up a forum a few years ago "Totally weather and Climate" (or something like that) and it failed miserably. I still do not see the need for it as there are already established fora out there with teams of moderators UKWW, TWO, NetWeather etc etc. Also a word of advice, moderating will be a full-time commitment 24/7, be very very sure before you embark on this. You could of course set up a group where posts are only released after moderation (like UKMO) but then it doesn't "move". Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- Will Thanks for the advice. I hadn't realised that Dawlish had tried it, what a strange forum that would be? Global warming deniers barred! And that's got me thinking how do I deal with that kind of topic! Hi Bruce, Dawlish did it in a cunning way. he had a friend who was a sceptic, I hate the word "denier" ,and they had chats in the forum. It kinda worked. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- It worked for about a week then two things became obvious. Firstly that neither of them knew much about the nitty-gritty of meteorology and secondly that there was nobody else in the house. And who on earth is going to join a group led by Dawlish of all people? He simply wanted to exercise control, this being his nature. But Bruce doesn't labour under any of these faults so I will give it a go. Tudor Hughes |
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In message ,
xmetman writes snip Perhaps I can 'trust' people and let them by without moderating? Or maybe give them a couple of yellow cards before sending them off? If the forum software you'll be using allows it, then you might be able to "white list" certain posters that you feel you can trust, and accept posts from them without moderation, whereas posts from others would still have to be moderated. The snag with moderation, if you are the sole moderator, is that if Real Life intervenes (as you've alluded to in the bit that I've snipped) and there's a delay of several days before you can get around to approving posts, that will take away the forum's momentum and people are likely to drift away. I thought that I'd "saved" your original post, so that I could return to it, later, but it somehow seems to have "time-expired" on my machine. So I can't remember quite what the procedure was that you set out for applying to join, but I'd like to be a member please. I can't promise to remember to look in on the forum regularly, though. The great advantage of newsgroups is that I have things set up so that new posts are downloaded automatically, and once downloaded the habit of reading them has become sufficiently ingrained that it doesn't need any prompting for me to remember to do so. Added later: I've found the reason why I couldn't find your original post. It wasn't on this thread at all but on "From the ashes..."! Doh! ![]() -- John Hall "Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin" attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp, a former director of the Bank of England |
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John
I never planned for this to happen, the whole thing has just happened very quickly. I don't like responsibility and was never a manager in the Met Office as I think Will has pointed out, all I ever wanted to at work was program and even today that's true. I was never a brilliant programmer but I persisted! Since retiring and starting my xmetman blog I have learnt so much more about everything meteorological.I don't mean that I'm some kind of expert, but I do the research because I don't want to write utter twaddle in the topics that I write about! You're right about keeping the momentum going in a forum, what I hope I achieve is a more friendly place people can post to without the need for kill filing people, because hopefully I'll have done it for them. Only time will tell if I succeed. Bruce. |
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In message ,
xmetman writes I never planned for this to happen, the whole thing has just happened very quickly. I don't like responsibility and was never a manager in the Met Office as I think Will has pointed out, all I ever wanted to at work was program and even today that's true. We have something in common. I don't like responsibility either, and was never a manager (except briefly of one other person, and that didn't work out well). And I too loved programming, though I haven't done any since retiring. Sadly the trend at work was increasingly to contract out programming, so the opportunities for doing that decreased over time. (I wasn't in the Met Office, but WAS in the scientific civil service.) My post would be another that posed a problem for a forum's moderator. ![]() -- John Hall "Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin" attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp, a former director of the Bank of England |
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![]() "John Hall" wrote in message ... In message , xmetman writes I never planned for this to happen, the whole thing has just happened very quickly. I don't like responsibility and was never a manager in the Met Office as I think Will has pointed out, all I ever wanted to at work was program and even today that's true. We have something in common. I don't like responsibility either, and was never a manager (except briefly of one other person, and that didn't work out well). And I too loved programming, though I haven't done any since retiring. Sadly the trend at work was increasingly to contract out programming, so the opportunities for doing that decreased over time. (I wasn't in the Met Office, but WAS in the scientific civil service.) My post would be another that posed a problem for a forum's moderator. ![]() I did a bit of management, both project and human, but my heart was in Research. Later in my career as a Senior Scientist I had some autonomy and was able to suggest and carry out research. I too loved programming and was a small system manager for a while (Sun workstations running UNIX). My ideal working setup was take an idea (own or someone else's), set up an experiment, program the code required to run said experiment. Run and debug and then re-run and examine results. Come to conclusions, write a short report and publish. I got to do a lot of that in my last 5 years of employment. Trouble is, corporate stuff tended to get in the way sometimes. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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