"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
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"Col" wrote in
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I just hope you aren't a snow lover.........

If you're the aforementioned person in this thread, bored of this country's
weather, you've already written off this winter because snowy periods in
this country are definitely "a thing of the past". Wait and see is what I
say!

Nope, that was Danny.

That comment was for Joe Hunt and was meant as a reflection of
the lack of snow in manchester rather than the country as a whole.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

"danny" wrote in message
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I said the same some weeks ago to danny, Col.
Small mind and all that.

The climate of the British Isles is extremely repetitive. Sure it's
'changeable', but is one low\front after another interesting? I think this
is where the old myth started... the British weather is sure changeable but
for a Weather enthusiast it's not interesting, or comparable to 'most' other
parts of the world. Don't kid yourself on this one.

Yes, dammit that *is* interesting!
There is almost always something going on that is of interest.
A sucession of lows can bring interesting changes, gusty cold fronts
with abrupt changes in wind direction/temperature and possibly
severe gales with squally hail showers behind.
It's the changeabilty that makes it interesting, rather than the absolute
extremes.

Our climate is very benign and mellow. We never see proper extremes. For
one, we hardly ever see 'proper' snow that many other countries in the World
see. We never see proper rain\thunder. Temperatures are certainly not
extreme, and never will be on the edge of a vast, warm ocean.
The weather Keith described is very typical of winter weather in the UK, and
if you think it is interesting you have a smaller mind than me, and probably
a screw loose. .

Why this obsession with extremes, Danny?
Why not open your eyes to some of the more subtle stuff that's going on around
you rather than hoping for that once in 50 years snow event?

Many of the places that have 'extremes' by our standards seem to have
rather boring climates anyway. Imagine living in Oklahoma. Hot in summer,
rather cold in winter. Apart from the odd F5 tornado and spectacular
thunderstorm the weather there must be pretty tedious.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

Well, fair point. Horses for courses I guess... But I do like that weather
you describe .. I just wish I would see more of it, especially in the SE
where our climate seems High pressure(Azores) dominated to me.

Yes, dammit that *is* interesting!
There is almost always something going on that is of interest.
A sucession of lows can bring interesting changes, gusty cold fronts
with abrupt changes in wind direction/temperature and possibly
severe gales with squally hail showers behind.
It's the changeabilty that makes it interesting, rather than the absolute
extremes.



Why this obsession with extremes, Danny?
Why not open your eyes to some of the more subtle stuff that's going on
around
you rather than hoping for that once in 50 years snow event?

"danny" wrote in message
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Well, fair point. Horses for courses I guess... But I do like that weather
you describe .. I just wish I would see more of it, especially in the SE
where our climate seems High pressure(Azores) dominated to me.

When was the last time that happened Danny ? The Azores High I
am talking about, it has been absent/misplaced for the past few months.
This in itself is rather odd and has been picked out many a time
by Philip Eden in his Weather Log reports for Weather magazine.

However are you really that surprised our climate is domainated by
SW winds, caused in part by the Azores High ? Some back to basics
reading is required I think -

http://www.newmediastudio.org/DataDi...terly_%20Waves
/Trade_Winds/Trade_Winds.html
or http://makeashorterlink.com/?D1C742556

Joe


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"Col" wrote in
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Yes, dammit that *is* interesting!
There is almost always something going on that is of interest.
A sucession of lows can bring interesting changes, gusty cold fronts
with abrupt changes in wind direction/temperature and possibly
severe gales with squally hail showers behind.
It's the changeabilty that makes it interesting, rather than the
absolute extremes.

Agreed - we're in a fortunate enough position to receive most weather. We
can be unbearably (well, in my book!) hot in summer (38.5c this summer), and
pretty damn cold in winter (-27c or whatever the record low is). We get the
odd tornado (I'll refrain from using "mini" to save the pedants!) and the
odd severe thunderstorm. Our position in winter also means that there is
always a threat of heavy snow in place (easterly lake-effect snow over the
North Sea, or snow on a northern side of a low).

The most interesting thing (and probably why so much research has been
carried out into it over the last 30 years in this country, and it's still
going strong) is that we're in the firing eye of the jetstream on more than
the odd occasion (Oct 87, Jan 90, Oct 00 to name a few) - and we therefore
get extratropical weather systems the severity of which *many* countries
won't see.

Cheers
Richard

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
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"Col" wrote in
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Agreed - we're in a fortunate enough position to receive most weather.
We
can be unbearably (well, in my book!) hot in summer (38.5c this
summer), and
pretty damn cold in winter (-27c or whatever the record low is). We
get the
odd tornado (I'll refrain from using "mini" to save the pedants!) and
the
odd severe thunderstorm. Our position in winter also means that there
is
always a threat of heavy snow in place (easterly lake-effect snow over
the
North Sea, or snow on a northern side of a low).

The most interesting thing (and probably why so much research has been
carried out into it over the last 30 years in this country, and it's
still
going strong) is that we're in the firing eye of the jetstream on more
than
the odd occasion (Oct 87, Jan 90, Oct 00 to name a few) - and we
therefore
get extratropical weather systems the severity of which *many*
countries
won't see.

Hi, Richard,

Says it all, really. I certainly don't find it boring!

ATB,

--
Ken Cook, Copley (5miles north of Barnard Castle), County Durham.
830ft
http://mysite.freeserve.com/copley
(MO climat. site updated before 10Z and 19Z daily)
kencookATcopleydurham.freeserve.co.uk


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