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I agree, I've kept the ones from 29/10 to 31/10 and arranged them to look
like a long graph. Quite impressive. -- Rob Overfield Hull; 3m ASL "WasTa" wrote in message ... http://www.dcs.lancs.ac.uk/iono/aurorawatch/ The graph on the above site may be useful Trevor "Nick Humphries" wrote in message ... I know what aurora are, but I don't know what to look for in order to predict when to watch out for spectacular light shows. Anyone here able to give me a dummies guide of websites to check and how to use that info to correctly time when to stand outside in the middle of nowhere for a few hours? -- +-------------------------------------------------+ | Nick Humphries, , Reading, UK | | Little Fluffy Clouds (timelapse MPEGs + webcam) | | http://obdwww.egyptus.co.uk/webcam.htm | +-------------------------------------------------+ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27/10/03 -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:01:53 -0000, Col wrote:
I'm 36 yrs old and still never seen one. 43 and didn't see one until 40, that coincides with moving up onto the North Pennines and being 20+ miles from sources of even moderate light pollution. The skies up here are dark right down to the horizon apart from: a tiny glow from Alston (sometimes missing), a small patch from Carlisle and about a 30deg wide by 15deg high patch from Newcastle (40+ miles away). Any clear night without full moon and you can't miss the Milky Way. When I first moved up I couldn't find the common constelations I knew very well, just *too* many stars. B-) Usually the aurora forecasts on this group are associated with cloud That is the most likely problem. Got the digital camera in August 2001, it's specification influenced by a desire to photograph the aurora and stars. The recent event was only the second chance at auroral photography since getting the camera, the previous was Sep 2002. There have been 3 or 4 other nights that did have aurora that would probably have been visible from here if there hadn't been cloud, full moon or both. What I'd like to know is, how bright are they? I've heard descriptions they are as bright as the full moon! The 29th I'd put at about 1/2 moon, more than enough light to walk around outside safely (remember it's dark up here, *real* dark). How long does one 'event' last, minutes, hours?? Can you see it moving? The whole "event" will last 24 to 48hrs+ but how long or how often aurora will be visible is very variable. It is in a state of constant flux and changes over minutes. It all depends on what and how fast the solar wind and earths magnetic field is depositing particles into the upper atmosphere. Think of a steady or gusty wind on a beach, the steady one will just move a steady amount of sand gently, a gusty one will pick up great wodges of sand and fling it, hard. Movement is very variable from just a patch of stationary lightness that could be cloud until you realise that you can see stars through it to rapidly pulsating sheets or rays or waving curtains. Around 0130 on the 30th the whole northern 1/4 segment of the sky (all I could see from the bedroom window) was pulsating and gently shimmering above a broad band of hanging glow that formed an arc from the NW to NE. And how localised are the displays, if there is a spectacular display 50 miles away, will I be able to see it? Aurora happen at around 100km above the earth, 50 miles on the ground isn't going to make a great difference to the visibilty. Always assuming that you aren't going 50 miles south from a site that can only just see it on a low northern horizon. B-) There is at least one other post that lists some excellent sites for watching for possible aurora. A few basics to look out for a 1) strong solar wind, 600km/hr+ 2) a south or negative Bz value to the interplanetary magnetic field. 3) a Kp value 6, preferably 7. 4) Luck! The first two are plotted against each other at: http://www.ips.gov.au/Main.php?CatID...olar%20Conditi ons&SubSecID=1&SubSecName=Solar%20Wind%20Speed If the end of the line is well into the red box it's a good indiactor. Always assuming that the sensors on the ACE spacecraft haven't been completely overloaded like they where during the 29th/30th event. B-) There is a German page that pulls together quite a number of these sites which makes it considerably easier to check up on activity. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:36:14 -0000, Col wrote:
All the reports of 'Wonderful aurora from Lands End' were really annoying me, why wasn't I seeing it when I am so much further north? Looking the wrong way? At least one report of all the activeity being to the south, all be it from the north of Scotland or was it Orkney/Shetland? There appeared to be a dull red glow over the entire sky here on the 29th but the really visible stuff was from W to E via N to just slightly more than overhead. Too much light pollution? On a clear night, can you see the pair in the handle of The Plough? 2nd star in from the end, the bright one is Mizar at magnitude 2.4 is pair is Alcor at maginitude 4, no more than an apparent 1/16"th away on the "top" of the handle. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 10:30:55 GMT, Paul C wrote:
Despite having been delighted to see my first aurora this week, I have mixed feeling about auroral activity since it has an adverse effect on one my hobbies - Medium Wave radio listening. Well just up your listening frequency a bit. The 29th bought terrible interference to our TV, I suspect that continental TV stations where being reflected off the aurora and either into the input of the local RBR relay or just straight into our aerial, or both. Takes some event to reflect radio signals up to 800MHz. I guess I should have tuned around a bit to see if I could watch anything but was far more interested in being outside. B-) -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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Many thanks for the pointers everyone - I'll start my way through them!
-- +-------------------------------------------------+ | Nick Humphries, , Reading, UK | | Little Fluffy Clouds (timelapse MPEGs + webcam) | | http://obdwww.egyptus.co.uk/webcam.htm | +-------------------------------------------------+ |
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For some reason that link jumps to the Lancashire Uni one I previously
posted. Trevor "dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" wrote in message ... Coming in late here, so it may have been covered, but www.aurorawatch.york.ac.uk is a very good site for notification of UK geomagnetic activity levels. Cheers. --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o* *l.c**$*$om$$ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27/10/03 -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:30:40 -0000, WasTa wrote:
Order of follow ups corrected to make it easier to follow Coming in late here, so it may have been covered, but www.aurorawatch.york.ac.uk For some reason that link jumps to the Lancashire Uni one I previously posted. The wed site recently moved from York to Lancashire Uni, I think the actual magnetometer is still at it's old location. I expect it says on the site somewhere. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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