Here a satellite picture with meteological connections;
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...3?img_id=16377

I thought the text made some interesting points related to current
discussions.

Cheers, Alastair.

"Alastair McDonald" k wrote
in message ...
Here a satellite picture with meteological connections;

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...3?img_id=16377

I thought the text made some interesting points related to current
discussions.

Cheers, Alastair.

An interesting picture and article although Iam not in agreement with the UK
missing the heat in August given the record temperatures recorded in the SE.
I accept that other parts of the UK were not as hot.

Alan

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:42:42 -0000, "Alastair McDonald"
k wrote:

Here a satellite picture with meteological connections;
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...3?img_id=16377

I thought the text made some interesting points related to current
discussions.

I do hope the "foreign language" subject line "Fall..." isn't a sign
of things to come. I'm sure I'm not the only person who had to
consider for a moment or two what it actually meant. It's a matter of
clarity, not pedantry. I'm sure that had the title of the image been
in French, for example, it would have been translated.

--
Grumpy Dave

"Dave Ludlow"
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:42:42 -0000, "Alastair
McDonald"

k
wrote:

Here a satellite picture with meteological
connections;

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImag
es/images.php3?img_id=16377

I thought the text made some interesting points
related to current
discussions.

I do hope the "foreign language" subject line
"Fall..." isn't a sign
of things to come. I'm sure I'm not the only
person who had to
consider for a moment or two what it actually
meant. It's a matter of
clarity, not pedantry. I'm sure that had the
title of the image been
in French, for example, it would have been
translated.

--
Grumpy Dave

Fall is an old English word for what we now call
Autumn.

I prefer 'Fall'. Much more fitting and romantic.

"Alastair McDonald" k wrote
in message ...
Here a satellite picture with meteological connections;

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...3?img_id=16377

I thought the text made some interesting points related to current
discussions.

I was flying over East Anglia last weekend and also two weeks earlier. The
difference in the appearance of the arable land between mid October and mid
November has been quite amazing. Everywhere is now lush and green - not the
brown desert when that satpic was taken.

A cursory look from the ground shows that cereal crops have germinated very
well although rape does seem to have suffered considerably more.

Jack

"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
...



A cursory look from the ground shows that cereal crops have germinated
very
well although rape does seem to have suffered considerably more.


I think that about sums it up, rape is the major worry.

Mind you the forward price of wheat has hit over £100 per tonne so the
traders are generally expecting a shortage.

Jim Webster
Jack

In my job as Countryside Access Officer I meet a lot of farmers. They tell
me that grain crops have never been so slow to emerge.

On the other hand I have never seen Oil Seed Rape so tall at this time of
year (a foot high as opposed to 4 inches, and even a few flowers showing in
some places as opposed to the normal flowering of late April)



Trevor
East Yorkshire





"Alastair McDonald" k wrote
in message ...
Here a satellite picture with meteological connections;

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...3?img_id=16377

I thought the text made some interesting points related to current
discussions.

Cheers, Alastair.




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On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:58:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
...



A cursory look from the ground shows that cereal crops have germinated
very
well although rape does seem to have suffered considerably more.


I think that about sums it up, rape is the major worry.

Excuse my igorance, but what exactly is rape used for? I know about
the oil but surely there is not a shortage of cooking oil in the EU.

Is it used as a fodder crop or ploughed back in?

JPG


Mind you the forward price of wheat has hit over £100 per tonne so the
traders are generally expecting a shortage.

Jim Webster
Jack

"JPG" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:58:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
...



A cursory look from the ground shows that cereal crops have germinated
very
well although rape does seem to have suffered considerably more.


I think that about sums it up, rape is the major worry.

Excuse my igorance, but what exactly is rape used for? I know about
the oil but surely there is not a shortage of cooking oil in the EU.

Is it used as a fodder crop or ploughed back in?


The oil is a cooking oil, industrial lubricant (paint base?) and can be used
as biodiesel, the crushed seed is used as an animal feed. The amount of oil
seeds we can grow is limited by international agreement

Oil seed rape, as well as being a food crop is one of the biggest short term
hopes as an industrial crop and indeed some is currently grown commercially
for industrial use not food.
From a landscape point of view, the future, if not actually yellow, has a
lot of yellow patches :-))


Jim Webster