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Tom, you should know by now that T+240 is fantasy! However it is always nice
to see that showing lower rather than higher, I agree, and you have tried to
state it cautiously.It also helps some on TWO from phoning the Samaritans!

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"Ron Button" wrote in message
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Looking at the next seven days at least it looks like the reversal could
have begun already ,goodbye glitch.....?

Ron, you've misunderestistoodified ...
The 'reversal' I'm talking about is climatic ... that is, the easing
back from the strong westerlies of the late-80s and early-90s in
the last six years. That last six years is the "glitch", or not, as the
future will tell us.

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No wizardry, just watching\studying the charts. To me, our winters are
shrinking big time. Arctic and Continental feeds are guttless. High Pressure
from the South seems relentless.(and further North which would lead to
interesting air flows, and not constant Westerly). When it does rarely slip
away we get floods, which balances the figures out. But the point is, it's a
mild High, wherever it is.
I would say we are leading into a very dry climate with wet seasons, when
the High does rarely slip South. We are seeing signs of this already I would
say.
All in my opinion, and probably wrong... I really hope so!

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"danny" wrote in message
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| I would say the type of weather you describe, is no longer possible in

the
| UK... for the time being anyway.
| First things first, we need this rapid rise in temperature during

January
| and February to halt.
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| Meant to add.... Which of course ties in with a turn round in current
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Hi Danny,

I'm sorry, lost again in your scientific wizardry. Could you just explain

how
this "rapid rise in temperatures during Jan and Feb of course ties in with

a
turn around un current weather patterns" ? Current weather patterns being
zonality, the climatological normal ?

Joe




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Thanks for keeping the dream alive Tom :-)

Southend Data now Updated on Weather Underground every 5 minutes.
http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...p?ID=IESSEXSO1
This is good for those of us with the older Monitors as we can use
this for Hign/Low Barometer, rainfall rates etc.

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I'm still going along with my own trend forecast issued last Friday. Still looks
like an Iceland block will develop the weekend after next as the longwave
pattern increases wavelength allowing ridge amplification in mid-atlantic
bringing in a very cold north or northeasterly across the UK. Still low
confidence though !

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TudorHgh wrote in message ...
I can't see any evidence whatever for an easterly spell, even up to
T+384, in the GFS forecasts. Nor is there anything in the ECMWF output. It
all seems like wishful thinking to me.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.





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bringing in a very cold north or northeasterly across the UK. Still low
confidence though !


At least someone is on my side

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At least someone is on my side

We are Tom - just trying to be restrained!

Dave


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bringing in a very cold north or northeasterly across the UK. Still low
confidence though !


Is that better than a guess then, Will?! :-))

Victor



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"Tom" wrote in message
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There has been a sudden buzz of interest over a forthcoming cold snap
starting around the 15th January.


Both yesterday's 12z ECMWF operational run and today's 00z GFS continue this
theme.

EC also came up with some stormy developments on Monday and Wednesday,
http://meteocentre.com/models/ecmwf_...p00_9panel.gif
not supported on this occasion by the 00z MetO GM (VT Monday) nor the GFS.

Jon.




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