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41 Knot gust at 19:55
37 Knot mean wind speed for the 10 minute period ending 19:56 Paul -- www.lincolnshireweather.co.uk |
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It's wild back home Jim....
Paul "Richard" wrote in message ... In article , says... 41 Knot gust at 19:55 37 Knot mean wind speed for the 10 minute period ending 19:56 Paul B....y hell! I'm just on my way home there. Jim |
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Hi Paul,
I'm a bit puzzled as to why your mean is 37 knots and yet the gust is only 41 knots ? How is the mean calculated ? I would expect at least a 50 knot gust with such a high mean speed over land ? Will. -- " A cup is most useful when empty " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Freeman wrote in message ... 41 Knot gust at 19:55 37 Knot mean wind speed for the 10 minute period ending 19:56 Paul -- www.lincolnshireweather.co.uk |
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Hi Will,
Not sure how mean is calculated - software does it for me......however, although I am over land, I am on the coast of the Lincolnshire Fens, and the wind has a long fetch of perfectly flat, featureless land to my west (at least 30 miles) - would this make a difference? Appreciate your comments Paul "Will" wrote in message ... Hi Paul, I'm a bit puzzled as to why your mean is 37 knots and yet the gust is only 41 knots ? How is the mean calculated ? I would expect at least a 50 knot gust with such a high mean speed over land ? Will. -- " A cup is most useful when empty " -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Paul Freeman wrote in message ... 41 Knot gust at 19:55 37 Knot mean wind speed for the 10 minute period ending 19:56 Paul -- www.lincolnshireweather.co.uk |
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Will,
I've had a look at the log files, and I calculate the mean for that 10 minute period as 27 Knots - I will investigate further - however, the gust is correct.....Does this sound more reasonable? Regards Paul -- www.lincolnshireweather.co.uk "Will" wrote in message ... Hi Paul, I'm a bit puzzled as to why your mean is 37 knots and yet the gust is only 41 knots ? How is the mean calculated ? I would expect at least a 50 knot gust with such a high mean speed over land ? Will. -- " A cup is most useful when empty " -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Paul Freeman wrote in message ... 41 Knot gust at 19:55 37 Knot mean wind speed for the 10 minute period ending 19:56 Paul -- www.lincolnshireweather.co.uk |
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"Paul Freeman" wrote in message
... Will, I've had a look at the log files, and I calculate the mean for that 10 minute period as 27 Knots - I will investigate further - however, the gust is correct.....Does this sound more reasonable? Paul, Mean speed is often about 65% - 70% of the max gust here. HTH, -- Ken http://mysite.freeserve.com/copley kencookATcopleydurham.freeserve.co.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 30/01/04 |
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:16:34 -0000, Paul Freeman wrote in
I've had a look at the log files, and I calculate the mean for that 10 minute period as 27 Knots - I will investigate further - however, the gust is correct.....Does this sound more reasonable? That would be a ratio of 41/27 or about 1.52. I have in my notes some *typical* [1] values of gusts in relation to the *one hour* mean over flat ground in neutral conditions. They a 10 min 1.06 1 min 1.24 30 sec 1.33 20 sec 1.36 10 sec 1.43 5 sec 1.47 I don't know how sensitive your anemometer is [2] but using the 5 second gust in relation to the 10 minute wind gives a ratio of 1.39 which is reasonably close to the figure I calculate for your speeds. [1] by typical I mean average rather than on just one occasion. [2] I'm sure yours is more responsive than just to the 5 second gust, which would take the ratio higher than the 1.39 calculated above i.e. even nearer the 1.52 you recorded. -- Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 31/01/2004 23:07:47 UTC Temperature 2.6C |
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Paul,
Yes that seems about right. I was a professional observer years ago and I have seen thousands of anemograph traces and one gets a pretty good feel for relationships between mean and gust. ATB and thanks for the obs, Will. -- Paul Freeman wrote in message ... Will, I've had a look at the log files, and I calculate the mean for that 10 minute period as 27 Knots - I will investigate further - however, the gust is correct.....Does this sound more reasonable? Regards Paul -- www.lincolnshireweather.co.uk "Will" wrote in message ... Hi Paul, I'm a bit puzzled as to why your mean is 37 knots and yet the gust is only 41 knots ? How is the mean calculated ? I would expect at least a 50 knot gust with such a high mean speed over land ? Will. -- " A cup is most useful when empty " -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Paul Freeman wrote in message ... 41 Knot gust at 19:55 37 Knot mean wind speed for the 10 minute period ending 19:56 Paul -- www.lincolnshireweather.co.uk |
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