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Wrong Kind of Pressure Disrupts Trains

By Peter Woodman, Transport Correspondent, PA News


Rush-hour rail passengers were treated to a new excuse for broken
trains today – the wrong kind of atmospheric pressure.

A sharp rise in atmospheric pressure caused havoc with the fine
workings of Electrostar 357 trains used on the Essex Coast to London
services run by the c2c company.

Eight of the trains lost power, causing severe delays to journeys into
and out of London’s Fenchurch Street station.

A c2c spokesman explained: “Oil pressure plays a very important part
in the running of the engines on these trains and this pressure is
determined by atmospheric pressure.

“The atmospheric pressure in the c2c train area this morning was more
than twice what it was yesterday and this led to an airlock which, in
turn, led to the falling down of the pantograph which collects power
from the overhead wires.”

He went on: “We had been working with our engineers to introduce a
modification to avoid this kind of problem, but it has not been
installed yet.”


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The atmospheric pressure in the c2c train area this morning was more
than twice what it was yesterday


No comment, except that it is not April 1st.

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“The atmospheric pressure in the c2c train area this morning was more
than twice what it was yesterday


Twice?!

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No wonder I had a bloody headache!! 1950 mb hurts! Seriously, this is not an
April Fool's joke. My daughter had to go via another commuter route this
morning and collecting her from the station tonight the info board indeed
said - "C2C would like to apologise for the severe disruption to service
this morning. This was caused by an extreme change in atmospheric pressure
causing problems with the electrical system inside the carriages". Slightly
difernt excuse.

Dave
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"The atmospheric pressure in the c2c train area this morning was more
than twice what it was yesterday


Twice?!

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Paul C writes:
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A c2c spokesman explained: “Oil pressure plays a very important part
in the running of the engines on these trains and this pressure is
determined by atmospheric pressure.

“The atmospheric pressure in the c2c train area this morning was more
than twice what it was yesterday


LOL!
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In message , Paul C
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Wrong Kind of Pressure Disrupts Trains

By Peter Woodman, Transport Correspondent, PA News


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“The atmospheric pressure in the c2c train area this morning was more
than twice what it was yesterday and this led to an airlock which, in
turn, led to the falling down of the pantograph which collects power
from the overhead wires.â€


Is that why my ears crackled a bit this morning :-)

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"C2C would like to apologise for the severe disruption to service
this morning. This was caused by an extreme change in atmospheric pressure
causing problems with the electrical system inside the carriages".


What rubbish! At Southend the pressure rose 10 mb in 12 hrs 8pm to 8 am,
hardly an "extreme change". (Source - METARs). Who do these idiots think
they'r kidding.

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Eh? You're having a laugh !

Joe

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Wrong Kind of Pressure Disrupts Trains

By Peter Woodman, Transport Correspondent, PA News


Rush-hour rail passengers were treated to a new excuse for broken
trains today - the wrong kind of atmospheric pressure.

A sharp rise in atmospheric pressure caused havoc with the fine
workings of Electrostar 357 trains used on the Essex Coast to London
services run by the c2c company.

Eight of the trains lost power, causing severe delays to journeys into
and out of London's Fenchurch Street station.

A c2c spokesman explained: "Oil pressure plays a very important part
in the running of the engines on these trains and this pressure is
determined by atmospheric pressure.

"The atmospheric pressure in the c2c train area this morning was more
than twice what it was yesterday and this led to an airlock which, in
turn, led to the falling down of the pantograph which collects power
from the overhead wires."

He went on: "We had been working with our engineers to introduce a
modification to avoid this kind of problem, but it has not been
installed yet."


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Eh? You're having a laugh !

Joe

"Paul C" wrote in message
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Wrong Kind of Pressure Disrupts Trains

By Peter Woodman, Transport Correspondent, PA News


Rush-hour rail passengers were treated to a new excuse for broken
trains today - the wrong kind of atmospheric pressure.

A sharp rise in atmospheric pressure caused havoc with the fine
workings of Electrostar 357 trains used on the Essex Coast to London
services run by the c2c company.

Eight of the trains lost power, causing severe delays to journeys

into
and out of London's Fenchurch Street station.

A c2c spokesman explained: "Oil pressure plays a very important part
in the running of the engines on these trains and this pressure is
determined by atmospheric pressure.

"The atmospheric pressure in the c2c train area this morning was

more
than twice what it was yesterday and this led to an airlock which,

in
turn, led to the falling down of the pantograph which collects power
from the overhead wires."

He went on: "We had been working with our engineers to introduce a
modification to avoid this kind of problem, but it has not been
installed yet."


.... I've posted the gist of this into uk.railway: lets see how they
respond to this. Sounds most peculiar seeing as the weather situation
was fairly 'bog-standard' and pantograph technology has been around for
.... 100 years?

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... I've posted the gist of this into uk.railway: lets see how they
respond to this. Sounds most peculiar seeing as the weather situation
was fairly 'bog-standard' and pantograph technology has been around for
... 100 years?


I posted the reason, which was given by our Fleet manager at East Ham EMUD
this morning, copied from my earlier post on UKr:
Well you know when your on a 357 and you occasionally hear a Pop sound, like
someone has knocked a bit of hollow plastic hard, or something hit the
train, well that Pop sound wasnt happenning and a build up short-circuited
certain Electrical Systems in the cupboard by the loo.
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