I was almost afraid to open the curtains this morning in fear of what I
might find. Late last night the forecast was awash (excuse the pun) with
yellow triangles, exclaimation marks, thunder, lightening, torrential rain,
traffic disruption - a near certaintity for the S and S.E.- not elsewhere
though. Strangely there was little on the radar other than some small
activities that looked as though they would run parallel with the south
coast. Perhaps they will arrive later, who knows?

Dave

Same old story - sweeping statements about torrential rain and
thunderstorms.
It just never seems to happen when and where they think it will.

I notice that this lastest lot, apart from not being necessarily where
expected, have rapidly died away.

I think they don't really know, and hedge their bets.

I know forecasting is an inexact science, but they appear to be so generally
innacurate these days (despite computer modelling) that I tend to take it
all with a pinch of salt, particularly when presented by excitable girlies
who are probably recruited for their looks rather than for their
meteorological acumen. (Sexist? Mois?)


CK

"Dave.C" wrote in message
...
I was almost afraid to open the curtains this morning in fear of what I
might find. Late last night the forecast was awash (excuse the pun) with
yellow triangles, exclaimation marks, thunder, lightening, torrential
rain,
traffic disruption - a near certaintity for the S and S.E.- not elsewhere
though. Strangely there was little on the radar other than some small
activities that looked as though they would run parallel with the south
coast. Perhaps they will arrive later, who knows?

Dave

A triumph of presentation over content ...

mois aussi

"Natsman" wrote in message
...
Same old story - sweeping statements about torrential rain and
thunderstorms.
It just never seems to happen when and where they think it will.

I notice that this lastest lot, apart from not being necessarily where
expected, have rapidly died away.

I think they don't really know, and hedge their bets.

I know forecasting is an inexact science, but they appear to be so
generally
innacurate these days (despite computer modelling) that I tend to take it
all with a pinch of salt, particularly when presented by excitable girlies
who are probably recruited for their looks rather than for their
meteorological acumen. (Sexist? Mois?)


CK

"Dave.C" wrote in message
...
I was almost afraid to open the curtains this morning in fear of what I
might find. Late last night the forecast was awash (excuse the pun) with
yellow triangles, exclaimation marks, thunder, lightening, torrential
rain,
traffic disruption - a near certaintity for the S and S.E.- not
elsewhere
though. Strangely there was little on the radar other than some small
activities that looked as though they would run parallel with the south
coast. Perhaps they will arrive later, who knows?

Dave

I know forecasting is an inexact science, but they appear to be so generally
innacurate these days (despite computer modelling) that I tend to take it
all with a pinch of salt, particularly when presented by excitable girlies
who are probably recruited for their looks rather than for their
meteorological acumen. (Sexist? Mois?)


CK

Sexist? No. The sexism is on the part of the BBC and others.
Mois? Août, n'est-ce pas?

Tudor Hughes.

"Natsman" wrote in message ...
Same old story - sweeping statements about torrential rain and
thunderstorms.
It just never seems to happen when and where they think it will.

I notice that this lastest lot, apart from not being necessarily where
expected, have rapidly died away.

I think they don't really know, and hedge their bets.

Oh really? As I type in West London, we've been experiencing one of
the biggest thunderstorms of all time. This ones been raging for
nearly 3 hours and shows no signs of abating. Non stop lightning and
thunder, and and a total deluge of rain. Many major roads have had to
close down in segments due to intense flooding.

And you reckon that the weather forecasters made 'sweeping statements
about torrential rain and thunderstorms'? I don't think so. Not this
time anyway.

CC

"ClippertyClop" wrote in message
m...
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And you reckon that the weather forecasters made 'sweeping statements
about torrential rain and thunderstorms'?

Well said that man ! There was some hell-ish thunderstorm activity this
afternoon. Of note were reports of visibilities of 1000m at both Lyneham
and Brize Norton, 42mm at High Wycombe in the hour to 16Z (max rate
240mm/hour if I heard correctly) and a 40KT gust at Benson - and it's not
over yet.

Jon.

"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
...

"ClippertyClop" wrote in message
m...
Snip
And you reckon that the weather forecasters made 'sweeping statements
about torrential rain and thunderstorms'?

Well said that man ! There was some hell-ish thunderstorm activity this
afternoon. Of note were reports of visibilities of 1000m at both Lyneham
and Brize Norton, 42mm at High Wycombe in the hour to 16Z (max rate
240mm/hour if I heard correctly) and a 40KT gust at Benson - and it's not
over yet.

Jon.

Since 15:00 hrs to almost 19:00 hrs we have had over 23mm of rain with rates
of near 70mm/hr. The thunder has been rumbling around constantly throughhout
and it is still raining heavily. The tmperature peaked at 27.6°C and has now
dropped to 19°C which is close to the dewpoint. Plenty o sirens going from
the emergency service vehicles so I thinh the severe weather warnings for
this area in the afternoon have proved to be fully justified.


Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
N51:44 W00:22
101m ASL

A good forecast would have mentioned the word *inland* .
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"Jon O'Rourke" wrote in message
...

"ClippertyClop" wrote in message
m...
Snip
And you reckon that the weather forecasters made 'sweeping statements
about torrential rain and thunderstorms'?

Well said that man ! There was some hell-ish thunderstorm activity this
afternoon. Of note were reports of visibilities of 1000m at both Lyneham
and Brize Norton, 42mm at High Wycombe in the hour to 16Z (max rate
240mm/hour if I heard correctly) and a 40KT gust at Benson - and it's not
over yet.

Jon.

I stand by my previous post without apology.

Yes, we've had some cracking storms in the last 24 hours, but the gist of my
post was that forecasts are generalised, often cover all possible
eventualities, and are usually presented in a twee, unprofessional manner -
certainly compared with ten years ago. You really don't have to look too
far into the recent past for prediction generalities and cock-ups....

Yesterday was superb (except, obviously, for those poor souls who suffered
from the effects) so far as spectacular storms are concerned, and for me,
long overdue....


CK
"ClippertyClop" wrote in message
m...
"Natsman" wrote in message
...
Same old story - sweeping statements about torrential rain and
thunderstorms.
It just never seems to happen when and where they think it will.

I notice that this lastest lot, apart from not being necessarily where
expected, have rapidly died away.

I think they don't really know, and hedge their bets.

Oh really? As I type in West London, we've been experiencing one of
the biggest thunderstorms of all time. This ones been raging for
nearly 3 hours and shows no signs of abating. Non stop lightning and
thunder, and and a total deluge of rain. Many major roads have had to
close down in segments due to intense flooding.

And you reckon that the weather forecasters made 'sweeping statements
about torrential rain and thunderstorms'? I don't think so. Not this
time anyway.

CC

Agreed. These guys *knew* the mechanism was inland. (London Northwards, it
always is ) Because of *issues* they won't tell us in their forecasts. To
state the S or SE as thunder locations is *way off* the mark.
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"Natsman" wrote in message
...
I stand by my previous post without apology.

Yes, we've had some cracking storms in the last 24 hours, but the gist of
my
post was that forecasts are generalised, often cover all possible
eventualities, and are usually presented in a twee, unprofessional
manner -
certainly compared with ten years ago. You really don't have to look too
far into the recent past for prediction generalities and cock-ups....

Yesterday was superb (except, obviously, for those poor souls who suffered
from the effects) so far as spectacular storms are concerned, and for me,
long overdue....


CK
"ClippertyClop" wrote in message
m...
"Natsman" wrote in message
...
Same old story - sweeping statements about torrential rain and
thunderstorms.
It just never seems to happen when and where they think it will.

I notice that this lastest lot, apart from not being necessarily where
expected, have rapidly died away.

I think they don't really know, and hedge their bets.

Oh really? As I type in West London, we've been experiencing one of
the biggest thunderstorms of all time. This ones been raging for
nearly 3 hours and shows no signs of abating. Non stop lightning and
thunder, and and a total deluge of rain. Many major roads have had to
close down in segments due to intense flooding.

And you reckon that the weather forecasters made 'sweeping statements
about torrential rain and thunderstorms'? I don't think so. Not this
time anyway.

CC